base talk The 12th Annual ATRL Grammys | Votes due January 12

[alp]

7 hours ago, supaspaz said:

 

BEST DANCE RECORDING

 

"Heat" Tove Lo and SG Lewis

"Illusion" Dua Lipa

"Make You Mine" Madison Beer

"Von Dutch" Charli XCX

"Yes, And?" Ariana Grande

WHERE TF IS TROYE????

[supaspaz]

4 minutes ago, alp said:

WHERE TF IS TROYE????

Unlucky to be born with a penis. (Notice that his only nominated song/video has him pretending to be a woman.)

[supaspaz]

49 minutes ago, loveisdead9582 said:

Kesha getting snubbed however… meh. Was she even close to making it?

She had well of support, and early on I thought she might be a surprise nominee in pop solo, but she couldn't quite keep up.

[khalyan]

5 hours ago, Element Of Milk said:

Sometimes, a nomination makes you question everything you know about the integrity of an awards process. Enter Jade - Angel of My Dreams, a track that has somehow managed to weasel its way into the ATRL Grammys conversation. Let's be real—this nomination reeks of desperation, clout chasing, and, frankly, a severe lapse in musical taste.

 

Firstly, let's talk about the song itself. "Angel of My Dreams" is neither groundbreaking nor memorable. Its production feels like it was lifted straight from a free stock-music website, with uninspired melodies and a hollow, lifeless beat that wouldn't even make it onto a B-side from a mid-tier pop star. The lyrics are equally banal—filled with clichés so tired they could put a toddler to sleep. If this is what passes for "Grammy-worthy" material, then we might as well start nominating karaoke performances at this point.

 

What's even more galling is how this track seems to have gained its nomination. It doesn't take much digging to see that this was the result of fan campaigns rather than genuine recognition of artistic merit. Sure, stan culture is a force to be reckoned with, but there's a fine line between supporting your fave and pushing mediocrity into spaces it doesn't belong. Jade's fans may be vocal, but volume doesn't equate to value.

 

Let's also address the elephant in the room: the competition. This year has been a buffet of artistic excellence, with artists pouring their heart and soul into works that resonate deeply and push boundaries. The inclusion of "Angel of My Dreams" in the same lineup is not just laughable—it's an insult to those who have worked tirelessly to create art that matters. For every slot wasted on filler like this, there's an actual masterpiece being overlooked.

 

In conclusion, the nomination of Jade - Angel of My Dreams at the ATRL Grammys is a textbook example of how popularity contests can overshadow genuine artistry. It's a sobering reminder that hype often trumps substance in today's music industry. Here's hoping the voters do the right thing and leave this "angel" where it belongs: grounded.

You suck. 

[supaspaz]

Poor Dua catching more strays than Gracie Abrams and Madison Beer now!

[Suilen]

Can I vote if I didn't do the previous steps?

[alp]

if i catch any dua slanders istg

[supaspaz]

2 hours ago, Suilen said:

Can I vote if I didn't do the previous steps?

Of course! Please do.

[Wonderland]

11 hours ago, Crashed said:

I don't know whether we're allowed to vote in all genre categories this time but I feel like Beyoncé has those categories all on lock. Sorry to the other women 

 

Edit: wait, where's her best country song nom...

The timing of this comment was truly a cackle ddd

 

[McNulty]

How 'II Hands II Heaven' aka best song this year didn't get a nomination in the R&B fields and the Willow snubs 

 

Also people listened to 'I Luv it' and said YES

[Wonderland]

Honestly at this point I'm just gonna vote for Radical Optimism out of sheer disbelief it actually made it 

Kinda glad we have a break from Taylor this time

[Suilen]

1 hour ago, supaspaz said:

Of course! Please do.

Good. I considered sending for the longlists but there were too many khias that wouldn't go anywhere. The final nominations do have stuff worth voting for.

[OrgVisual]

Taylor with 0 nomination, IKTR  

The acclaim for JADE  

The Dua sneak though

[Kiss It Better]

not Beyonce missing country song 

[Ewan Chaos]

I hope none of the MPG songs win best country solo Waxahatchee shut out of most country noms ESPECIALLY albums... why did I even bother with that category then!!! Oh well, two of my other picks got in at least.

 

Rock performance, STACKED. Minus Halsey, which probably means she will win Ditto rock song, but I think that one will be easier to vote for just one. Heard good things about that Ghost album... so I will make sure to listen before I vote. Alternative, unsurprisingly stacked, literally would be happy with any of them winning

 

BNA is Chappell's to lose of course, but I shall be placing my vote elsewhere  R&B noms really bboring... Erika unsurprisingly snubbed. 3 good albums in the R&B album category at least. Cute misc noms. I like Espresso more, but assumed one of the two story-led Sabrina videos would be picked.

 

Mostly stacked SOTY but a few sneaks (that are expected from ATRL). The way anyone with potential split noms basically got shut out of their category is kinda sending me  That pop/duo lineup is one of the worst I've seen ever minus one, maybe two, songs. Damn, the Madison Beer payola was strong this year  ROTY cute as well. Dua getting the last laugh on here nn

 

Kacey kinda stomping this year both for regular Grammys and ATRL Grammys. Funny cuz the pop album from a few years ago was better than this one nn. At least TO ME. Mag Bay getting a sneaky lil nom is AMAZING aaaaand Dua's album somehow making it in is honestly less infuriating than any Taylor being here.

 

NO TAYLOR NOMS DAMNNNNNNNNNN

[supaspaz]

5 hours ago, Kiss It Better said:

not Beyonce missing country song 

The Hive should have gotten behind "16 Carriages" instead of splitting the vote

[supaspaz]

1 hour ago, Ewan Chaos said:

The way anyone with potential split noms basically got shut out of their category is kinda sending me

That's why labels do strategic submissions, but I'm not sure how I can get around this problem. Maybe just limit artists to their top submission in any given category for a longlist?

 

1 hour ago, Ewan Chaos said:

 

Kacey kinda stomping this year both for regular Grammys and ATRL Grammys. Funny cuz the pop album from a few years ago was better than this one nn. At least TO ME.

I wasn't crazy about Deeper Well either, but ATRL does love Miss Kacey! One of the most awarded ATRL Grammy winners ever.

[supaspaz]

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In case you missed it yesterday, we've got ATRL Grammy nominations!

[Ewan Chaos]

4 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

That's why labels do strategic submissions, but I'm not sure how I can get around this problem. Maybe just limit artists to their top submission in any given category for a longlist?

Yeah that is tough. Obviously you went with the right approach only letting people vote for one song per artist in a specific category, as to not inflate one category with a single artist, but as we've seen it causes other problems. It seems fanbases don't treat the ATRL Grammys as uber competitive (which thank God tbh) and coalesce around one song for their fave behind the scenes anymore. 

 

I think that limiting artists to their top submission next year would be worth a try.

[ScorpiosGroove]

33 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

The Hive should have gotten behind "16 Carriages" instead of splitting the vote

i did my part 

 

[NewStanner]

20 hours ago, Element Of Milk said:

My Scathing Review (Record Of The Year) -Part 1

 

 

Verdict: Absolutely not.

 

If the ATRL Grammys had a category for "Most Dramatic Song About an Awkward Love Triangle With Your Own Self," Jade's Angel of My Dreams would take the crown—and the mic, and possibly the stage as well, because, let's face it, Jade needs the spotlight. This track is a whirlwind of emotions, a rollercoaster that somehow keeps getting stuck at the bottom of the hill. If record of the year is about making an impression, Jade definitely made one... just not the kind anyone asked for.

 

Lyrically, Angel of My Dreams is a soap opera—one where Jade spends three minutes explaining that she's deeply in love with someone who doesn't care, then complaining about it over a synth line that could have been programmed by a toaster. If we gave out awards for repeating the word "care" like it's a particularly boring version of "Where's Waldo," Jade would get all the trophies. "Care, care, care, care"—we get it, you're emotional. But where's the depth? Where's the artistry? Maybe it's buried under that pile of Gucci suits, sushi, and the car you bought for someone who clearly doesn't even know your name.

 

The whole song sounds like it was written during a dramatic rant over a Zoom call with a breakup playlist on shuffle. The chorus? Oh, it's just Jade lamenting how "bittersweet" it is that someone doesn't appreciate her and how she "always" wants them, even though they "don't care." But hey, it's "so bad, it's funny," right? A line so confusing, even an existential crisis couldn't fully grasp it.

 

And then we get to the bizarre inclusion of the "money" line—because nothing says record of the year like flexing materialism and a slight hint of existential dread. Jade, honey, are we in love with someone, or are we just bitter about your latest financial investment?

 

The whole thing culminates in a self-absorbed moment of "look at me" mixed with "poor me"—and all of it is punctuated with dramatic flair. Sure, it "feels nice" to be in the spotlight, but maybe it would feel nicer if the song didn't sound like a bad Instagram caption.

 

Final verdict: Absolutely not for Record of the Year. If there were a category for "Most Confusing Combination of Emo and Show Off," Jade would win without question. But as for top honors? Let's just say, "Angel of My Dreams" isn't quite the angel we're praying for. 

This would've been accurate if somehow the painfully mediocre Lana rip-off, Diet Pepsi, got a nom and you made this comment about it... but Angel Of My Dreams is a fantastic song. Is it sorta a mess? Yeah, absolutely. But a beautiful one that still feels surprisingly cohesive and emotional and purely gorgeous. She 100% deserved that nom for easily one of the best debut singles in recent memory.

 

And the MV too... my god, I know that it shouldn't impact that much of my opinion on the music itself, but it really REALLY adds a lot to the song. For sure, it's in the top 7 best videos of the year at the very least.

[NewStanner]

22 hours ago, supaspaz said:

 

8 nominations:
Ariana Grande

Talent always wins

 

[Abracadabra]

20 hours ago, Element Of Milk said:

My Scathing Review (Record Of The Year) -Part 1

 

 

Verdict: Absolutely not.

 

If the ATRL Grammys had a category for "Most Dramatic Song About an Awkward Love Triangle With Your Own Self," Jade's Angel of My Dreams would take the crown—and the mic, and possibly the stage as well, because, let's face it, Jade needs the spotlight. This track is a whirlwind of emotions, a rollercoaster that somehow keeps getting stuck at the bottom of the hill. If record of the year is about making an impression, Jade definitely made one... just not the kind anyone asked for.

 

Lyrically, Angel of My Dreams is a soap opera—one where Jade spends three minutes explaining that she's deeply in love with someone who doesn't care, then complaining about it over a synth line that could have been programmed by a toaster. If we gave out awards for repeating the word "care" like it's a particularly boring version of "Where's Waldo," Jade would get all the trophies. "Care, care, care, care"—we get it, you're emotional. But where's the depth? Where's the artistry? Maybe it's buried under that pile of Gucci suits, sushi, and the car you bought for someone who clearly doesn't even know your name.

 

The whole song sounds like it was written during a dramatic rant over a Zoom call with a breakup playlist on shuffle. The chorus? Oh, it's just Jade lamenting how "bittersweet" it is that someone doesn't appreciate her and how she "always" wants them, even though they "don't care." But hey, it's "so bad, it's funny," right? A line so confusing, even an existential crisis couldn't fully grasp it.

 

And then we get to the bizarre inclusion of the "money" line—because nothing says record of the year like flexing materialism and a slight hint of existential dread. Jade, honey, are we in love with someone, or are we just bitter about your latest financial investment?

 

The whole thing culminates in a self-absorbed moment of "look at me" mixed with "poor me"—and all of it is punctuated with dramatic flair. Sure, it "feels nice" to be in the spotlight, but maybe it would feel nicer if the song didn't sound like a bad Instagram caption.

 

Final verdict: Absolutely not for Record of the Year. If there were a category for "Most Confusing Combination of Emo and Show Off," Jade would win without question. But as for top honors? Let's just say, "Angel of My Dreams" isn't quite the angel we're praying for. 

Girl bye AOMD is amazing you are loud and wrong

 

[Into The Void]

18 hours ago, alp said:

WHERE TF IS TROYE????

He got nomd for Song of the Year and Music Video

[GreatestLoveofAll]

sent mine in! this year had some amazing music truly