By the time Mariah debuted, Madonna had already released 4 studio albums, 2 soundtracks, a remix album and a generation defining greatest hits record, had three major movies, toured three times, had a vanguard award and was named artist of the decade by multiple respected publications… so why does ATRL unironically pretend like they are peers? 

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by Jjang

Yes, I think Madonna's cousin is related to Mariah's great aunt via marriage.

When Madonna is outstreaming Mariah - they are peers. 

 

When Mariah is outstreaming Madonna - Madonna debuted pre-invention of the radio while Mariah debuted in the streaming era. 
 

The logic is simple.

No. Just like P!nk and Gaga aren't peers 

No, they aren’t. 

No, like Beyonce, Britney, Christina and J.Lo are not Katy and Gaga peers.

No. Madonna's peers are Janet, Whitney, Prince, George Michael, etc. Mariah's peers are Céline, Boyz II Men, TLC, Nirvana, etc.

No, Mariah is a 90s pop girl and Madonna was already an established legend by 1990. 

Nope! Whitney and Janet are her peers. Mariah isn't.

12 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

When Madonna is outstreaming Mariah - they are peers. 

 

When Mariah is outstreaming Madonna - Madonna debuted pre-invention of the radio while Mariah debuted in the streaming era. 
 

The logic is simple.

 

I mean if they are peers then we can call, say, Dua/Billie and Gaga/Katy peers too

17 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

When Madonna is outstreaming Mariah - they are peers. 

 

When Mariah is outstreaming Madonna - Madonna debuted pre-invention of the radio while Mariah debuted in the streaming era. 
 

The logic is simple.

no one is saying this

 

anyway, no, they aren't

13 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

When Madonna is outstreaming Mariah - they are peers. 

 

When Mariah is outstreaming Madonna - Madonna debuted pre-invention of the radio while Mariah debuted in the streaming era. 
 

The logic is simple.

They are not peers, with Mariah having an advantage because her classics are generally 10+ years more recent than Madonna’s 

Peers in the community of legends, yes!

4 minutes ago, Legend E said:

no one is saying this

 

anyway, no, they aren't

It’s pretty obviously hyperbolic  

 

My point is that MadonnaNation will happily compare the two when Madonna is doing better on streaming but the minute Mariah passes her out it’s suddenly completely different. 

23 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

No. Madonna's peers are Janet, Whitney, Prince, George Michael, etc. Mariah's peers are Céline, Boyz II Men, TLC, Nirvana, etc.

This 

Yes and Mariah ate her up. 

I do think the GP consider them peers tbh 

No, she debuted until 1990. Madge's peer are Janet and Whitney.

No they aren't. Madonna has 8 years on Mariah.

ATRL groups every old ***** together. Some even think J.lo and Mariah are peers because they are the same age.

1 hour ago, Both Sides Now said:

When Madonna is outstreaming Mariah - they are peers. 

 

When Mariah is outstreaming Madonna - Madonna debuted pre-invention of the radio while Mariah debuted in the streaming era. 
 

The logic is simple.

I mean an artist from an older generation outstreaming someone who came after them is more embarrassing than someone outstreaming their peer

2 minutes ago, Scott Borchetta said:

I mean an artist from an older generation outstreaming someone who came after them is more embarrassing than someone outstreaming their peer

mhm

That time they asked her about younger jeneration Jlo and she got all mad lol

 

 

1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

No. Madonna's peers are Janet, Whitney, Prince, George Michael, etc. Mariah's peers are Céline, Boyz II Men, TLC, Nirvana, etc.

This

 

Madonna - Whitney - Janet

 

Mariah and Celine