9 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

I can see some people are already questioning the use of the word “Niche”. But niche or not, you cannot tell me that BTS or BP or even the biggest popstars in the streaming age today are as universal or multigenerational in terms of mainstream recognition compared to those up until early/mid 2010s. Nobody is downplaying their achievements, just be realistic for once 

Then the user shouldn’t have been using the word niche especially for BTS  
 

Just say being a superstar isn’t a thing anymore.

 

can aespa just stick to doing hyper pop music no one cares about NFT, Kwangya or whatever. 

1 hour ago, Dialamba said:

Dynamite has 1.6B streams. BTS will gain over 5 billion streams this year without a cb. 
BTS is one of the biggest acts right now and their impact goes beyond kpop. What’s the obsession with the random downplay every time. 

BP despite not having the biggest hits, are always mentioned by the biggest pop stars in the planet. And lets not even talk about their individual popularity. 
SZA and Bad Bunny are extremely massive, they would’ve never reached these stats if they were a niche.
You just say that because, because you expect only white pop singers to be “massive” 
also In what world NJ will file that niche because Rina danced to OMG. 

I think the point here is that popstars nowadays dont have the same level of fame or saturation that popstars before had. Yes Sza and Bad Bunny are ruling the charts however a non-music fan or random local wouldnt be able to recognize them immediately (they might know a song or two though). This is in contrast to the popstars of yesteryears where they were absolute household names that everyone knows and not just known because of a song or a fanbase.

BTS and Blackpink fall into this category. 

6 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

can aespa just stick to doing hyper pop music no one cares about NFT, Kwangya or whatever. 

this. no more gimmicks, just pure hyperpop excellence. no one cares about brand ambassadorships anymore since they became a dime a dozen

They’re coming !!! Cb in April/May?? 

 

Also it better be live streamed on Beyond the live, I’m ready to pay!!!

 

 

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2019/06/398_268221.html

 

I love this old article where they drag that uglee

 

1 hour ago, Asscatchem said:

sm really doesnt know where to put those payola coins for american success 

 

 

the eraser tooling for their hair  the overphotoshop

 

 

 

 

 

I mean paper magazine is big in the fashion world. But kii at the description, when an user said that SM might have forgot to send the report at the IFPI . 

 

1 hour ago, Xalric said:

Let's be honest, a lot of those brands where our faves are being ambassador are just using the kpop money how they can. A lots of them have racist past and when I say past is around 3 years ago not 10 or 20. 

 

I mean Bernard Arnault head of LVMH had racial profiling policy up until 2017.

It’s well know but it also apply to the POC ambassadors too. Anyways most of the recents ambassadors contracts are cheap as hell. It’s just for the exposure.

 

When you know that Anna Taylor contract with Dior is not more than 1,5 millions $ per year but she’s plastered everywhere and get all the campaigns, and the customs made for her red carpets, It’s easy to tell that Jisoo contract is lower. Meanwhile Charlize contract with Dior is 5 millions per year , Robert 2 millions per year. Adele the French singer signed a 5 years contract with Chanel for 4 millions euros. She earn 800k per year. I doubt Jennie signed a more expensive contract than her. Especially since she wasn’t that big in 2018. 

 

Anyways at the end, It’s just us/uk actors + pop stars like Bey, Rih, Gaga, Harry etcc >>>>Supermodels >>>>>> everyone else. 
 

 

Edited February 28, 20233 yr by Adama

• SBSMTheShow.EP317:tripleS, LIMELIGHT, XG, uni, FIFTY FIFTY, PURPLE KISS, TRI.BE, STAYC, 8TURN, AIMERS, HAWW, TNX, Kang Butter, BUMJIN, LEE CHAN WON

"Kang Butter"

 

10 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

"Kang Butter"

 

And also, The Show's youtube stream isn't blocked in Korea, and the only live chat comments in hangul are for Lee Chanwon.

 

 

🥳

 

2 hours ago, Asscatchem said:

sm really doesnt know where to put those payola coins for american success 

 

 

the eraser tooling for their hair  the overphotoshop

 

 

 

 

 

Serving MAVE (?) or whatever that CGI group is with how overly retouched their faces are.

 

They made Winter's head look big and also made their bust look bigger for all the members 

so are we like in the 5th gen now? and Baby monster will be 5th gen too?

36 minutes ago, harrythevifan said:

And also, The Show's youtube stream isn't blocked in Korea, and the only live chat comments in hangul are for Lee Chanwon.

 

 

I actually noticed that too 

are they bots? it's just too suspicious and they are so fast in the chat

and they only show up when that guy is on screen, for the rest of acts they are dead silent

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sza and bad bunny are miles bigger than the likes of bts outside of asia, like let’s be honest Dynamite is one of the only kpop hits that the gp might actually know and it’s still a niche that people either love or completely ignore

Yeah calling artists like SZA and Bad Bunny niche.. I mean be for real she’s captured the millennial and gen z audience completely within the last 5 years and on a global scale as of recently.
 

Bad Bunny is big in Latin America but to an English speaking audience his music is relatively unknown. Either way these artists have several global smashes under their belt.

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31 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said:

Serving MAVE (?) or whatever that CGI group is with how overly retouched their faces are.

 

They made Winter's head look big and also made their bust look bigger for all the members 

the way not even fans think its a serve  sm needs to recoup. or just let hybe take the reigns

 

1 hour ago, Adama said:

I mean paper magazine is big in the fashion world. But kii at the description, when an user said that SM might have forgot to send the report at the IFPI . 

 

sm will claw at any western success metric even if they have to pull it out of thin air  i do not believe for a second they forgot about ifpi when all these other kpop groups didnt

2 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

@kendoll2001nnnnn  whoever decided to put him in that shirt knows the tea 

Wonyoung also looks so good here as always 

 

 

Right, when you’re hiring Mingyu to be your new brand ambassador, one uses all the best tools in his wheelhouse, and we thank you innisfree 

 

atp aespa's gimmicks are bigger than their actual music and that's not a good sign.

sm is really wasting them i fear.

 

the reason why newjeans is everywhere is because the music is 6/6. everything else (good choreo, fashion + ambassadorships, bunny merch, y2k gimmicks) are cherries on top.

aespa lacks the good music foundation especially after the damage Girls/LTS did. LTS is a bop but it was not good for their brand

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19 minutes ago, Flomik said:

I actually noticed that too 

are they bots? it's just too suspicious and they are so fast in the chat

and they only show up when that guy is on screen, for the rest of acts they are dead silent

This show isn't of any interest for them.  SBS MTV even has a show just for them.  It's called The Trot Show.  But they think they can take trot global...

 

Anyway, I did see a support message for StayC in hangul, so there.

 

why is no one talking about xg??? we all need to be talking about xg more tbh...

36 minutes ago, Flomik said:

so are we like in the 5th gen now? and Baby monster will be 5th gen too?

Baby Monster and Boys Planet Bep1er to kick off 5th Gen and become immediate GG & BG 5th Gen leaders this Summer 

3 minutes ago, Eros said:

why is no one talking about xg??? we all need to be talking about xg more tbh...

what's there to talk about? great music, zero celebrity

1 minute ago, Asscatchem said:

what's there to talk about? great music, zero celebrity

but harvey tho 

Just now, Eros said:

but harvey tho 

very pretty girl