In the Vogue remix, Beyoncé makes sure to praise black excellence. However, when we look at the original lyrics, despite the song being inspired by the ball culture of black queer Americans, there is not a single shoutout to black artists by Madge:

 

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Greta Garbo and Monroe
Dietrich and DiMaggio
Marlon Brando, Jimmy Dean
On the cover of a magazine
Grace Kelly, Harlow, Jean
Picture of a beauty queen
Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire
Ginger Rogers, dance on air

 

They had style, they had grace
Rita Hayworth gave good face
Lauren, Katherine, Lana too
Bette Davis, we love you
Ladies with an attitude
Fellas that were in the mood
Don't just stand there, let's get to it
Strike a pose, there's nothing to it

So what happened? 

I hope so.

How is that shade? Bey shouts her out in the track too

Edited August 6, 20224 yr by abeille

Madonna only naming whites has nothing to do with Beyoncé who gave this song the proper twist. It’s a celebration, there’s no shade. Please stop grasping at straws even though we know this week has been devastating for you.

Just now, Blue Rose said:

Madonna only naming whites has nothing to do with Beyoncé who gave this song the proper twist. It’s a celebration, there’s no shade. Please stop grasping at straws even though we know this week has been devastating for you.

 

2 minutes ago, abeille said:

How is that shade? Bey shouts her out in the track too

Shading her by shouting out all black women and Madonna only did Caucasian artists even though the origins of Vogue were created by black queen Americans. 
 

Anyways, I doubt Beyonce had purposely malicious intentions but it’s still a fishy point that Madonna never included black artists. 

1 minute ago, Triton said:

Shading her by shouting out all black women and Madonna only did Caucasian artists even though the origins of Vogue were created by black queen Americans. 
 

Anyways, I doubt Beyonce had purposely malicious intentions but it’s still a fishy point that Madonna never included black artists. 

It’s not fishy. Madonna has been dragged countless times for that and everybody has already moved on

Edited August 6, 20224 yr by Blue Rose

Failing to see the shade 

 

yup, and then she credited madonna as a main performer to make sure shed see it

 

She literally names Madonna first and calls her a queen and says she loves her 

 

Like Madonna is literally the only white person on the list of names Lmao.

 

This couldn't be more opposed to what you mentioned 

4 minutes ago, Mohit said:

So its okay for beyonce to only name drop black females but not for Madonna to name only white girls? Is Madonna not allowed to celebrate white female excellence? 

This 

They both named who inspired them, thats the whole point.

 

Rough day huh?

 

 

Edited August 6, 20224 yr by HASHTAGPOW

Sksksk you tried it tho. 

The original was about classic Hollywood stars from the 1930s (who were basically all white). This is because the song was on the soundtrack to Dick Tracy which was inspired by that time period. Madonna had this bop she needed to somehow shoehorn onto the soundtrack and she thought shouting out those icons of the past would be the best way, she recorded it and went on her way. She did not expect that 32 years later gays on the internet would take out their Excel spreadsheets to tabulate the race of each person she shouted out.

 

If you want to get into it, what she was doing was actually a bit subversive and genius because she was essentially conflating the ballroom look-at-me culture with old Hollywood glamour and linking the two, as gay underground culture had been inspired by 'divas' of the past that came to prominence thanks to mass media/film/Hollywood. She's making the point that the glamour and attraction and star quality of a Hollywood mega star can be found in anybody as long as you liberate yourself on the dancefloor. That what Jean Harlow, Marlon Brando etc had isn't only for them, it's for anybody who is willing to let go of their inhibitions for the delight of the crowd much like vogueing performers are expected to. Considering the dancers prominently featured in the video are almost entirely Latino and Black, I think Madonna was well-aware of the origins of ballroom culture. I mean she literally came up in gay clubs in the early 80s. She was part of that scene.

Absolutely not. It’s called the queens remix for a reason. Both are queens. And it’s a house mix. She had to use Madonna’s classic for this. No shade at all. 

Well you have a good point but another explanation is that Beyoncé made the BMS remix complementary to Vogue in this regard. It cannot be a shade considering other things but if it is it's so sneaky that i'd give her props actually

No, she didn't. Quite the contrary. 

Certain two stanbases have been quacking this entire week and this remix is just the cherry on top.

2 hours ago, Protocol said:

The original was about classic Hollywood stars from the 1930s (who were basically all white). This is because the song was on the soundtrack to Dick Tracy which was inspired by that time period. Madonna had this bop she needed to somehow shoehorn onto the soundtrack and she thought shouting out those icons of the past would be the best way, she recorded it and went on her way. She did not expect that 32 years later gays on the internet would take out their Excel spreadsheets to tabulate the race of each person she shouted out.

 

If you want to get into it, what she was doing was actually a bit subversive and genius because she was essentially conflating the ballroom look-at-me culture with old Hollywood glamour and linking the two, as gay underground culture had been inspired by 'divas' of the past that came to prominence thanks to mass media/film/Hollywood. She's making the point that the glamour and attraction and star quality of a Hollywood mega star can be found in anybody as long as you liberate yourself on the dancefloor. That what Jean Harlow, Marlon Brando etc had isn't only for them, it's for anybody who is willing to let go of their inhibitions for the delight of the crowd much like vogueing performers are expected to. Considering the dancers prominently featured in the video are almost entirely Latino and Black, I think Madonna was well-aware of the origins of ballroom culture. I mean she literally came up in gay clubs in the early 80s. She was part of that scene.

EXACTLY! 

I think this is a great way to pay tribute to these particular icons and also pay homage to the original classic too. And it introduces it to a new generation and an audience who may not already know it. 

Go outside, please.

Why would she shade ha Tidal pal?

Mama this reach is insane even for ATRL

where even is the shade?