fan base Normani

[Kool_Aid_King]

Y'all really wanna laugh? On Friday... this tweet will be 200 days old

 

 

 

[orange22]

31 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Y'all really wanna laugh? On Friday... this tweet will be 200 days old

 

 

 

stop 

[Aaliyah Kylie]

1 hour ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Y'all really wanna laugh? On Friday... this tweet will be 200 days old

 

 

 

i swear if her team actually was useful and she retweeted this with her single and album pre-order... ugh

 

"for those who wait" would be a great album title lol

Edited August 18, 2022 by Aaliyah Kylie

[Khamis]

1 hour ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Y'all really wanna laugh? On Friday... this tweet will be 200 days old

 

 

 

And she didn’t lie. Y’all got Fair and loved it. See you in 2023!

[popularmoonlight]

12 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Y'all really wanna laugh? On Friday... this tweet will be 200 days old

 

 

 

Surprise release on Friday coming  

[nooniebao]

17 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Y'all really wanna laugh? On Friday... this tweet will be 200 days old

 

 

 

She meant it won’t be another 200 days until Fair which came out 2 months later.

Edited August 18, 2022 by nooniebao

[Flare]

Y’all: “Brandon is the problem, Normani needs new management”

 

Reality: Anitta does her latest video with Sean Bankhead (Normani’s only choreographer in her solo career).

 

When even your choreographer has moved on..what does that say? 

[nooniebao]

25 minutes ago, Flare said:

Y’all: “Brandon is the problem, Normani needs new management”

 

Reality: Anitta does her latest video with Sean Bankhead (Normani’s only choreographer in her solo career).

 

When even your choreographer has moved on..what does that say? 

Sean’s been quite in demand for several years (prior to Mani going solo) and will continue to be lol. Has nothing to do with how much Mani works or not. Bringing up Anitta’s always been odd cause they’re on different labels, had different journeys prior to Brandon, etc.

Sean’s seemingly still on good terms with Mani judging by social media interactions so I’m sure he’ll be working with her again whenever the opportunity arises.

[orange22]

20 hours ago, Khamis said:

And she didn’t lie. Y’all got Fair and loved it. See you in 2023!

We did get our yearly single. A bit greedy of us to ask her for anything again until January 

[Flare]

2 hours ago, nooniebao said:

Sean’s been quite in demand for several years (prior to Mani going solo) and will continue to be lol. Has nothing to do with how much Mani works or not. Bringing up Anitta’s always been odd cause they’re on different labels, had different journeys prior to Brandon, etc.

Sean’s seemingly still on good terms with Mani judging by social media interactions so I’m sure he’ll be working with her again whenever the opportunity arises.

I think the point I’m trying to make is that, if Brandon was so terrible and harming Normani’s career:

 

1. He wouldn’t be managing Anitta so effortlessly and…

2. People in Normani’s personal circle like Bankhead (Blair Caldwell, etc.), wouldn’t work with Brandon’s other clients knowing it would make Normani feel worse her career was in limbo. 

Clearly her issues are within herself and the label. 

 

[nooniebao]

8 minutes ago, Flare said:

I think the point I’m trying to make is that, if Brandon was so terrible and harming Normani’s career:

 

1. He wouldn’t be managing Anitta so effortlessly and…

2. People in Normani’s personal circle like Bankhead (Blair Caldwell, etc.), wouldn’t work with Brandon’s other clients knowing it would make Normani feel worse her career was in limbo. 

Clearly her issues are within herself and the label. 

 

Yes, that’s been obvious for some time now unfortunately. 

[cliche_display]

40 minutes ago, Flare said:

I think the point I’m trying to make is that, if Brandon was so terrible and harming Normani’s career:

 

1. He wouldn’t be managing Anitta so effortlessly and…

2. People in Normani’s personal circle like Bankhead (Blair Caldwell, etc.), wouldn’t work with Brandon’s other clients knowing it would make Normani feel worse her career was in limbo. 

Clearly her issues are within herself and the label. 

 

 Anitta had 40 million followers on IG before Brandon.  She self-managed for 5 years. Meanwhile, Brandon has had over a dozen clients and none of them have gotten anywhere due to him and 9/10 left him.

 

Anitta is good for Anitta. Brandon is not good for Normani. You don't have to look for photographers and choreographers looking for work to judge Brandon's effect. Look at Normani's career itself. That he's not a good fit is obvious.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by cliche_display

[yonsé]

On 8/16/2022 at 8:10 PM, Protocol said:

How hard is it to put out a statement that goes something like "I have heard the chatter and speculation about what's going on with new music. I just want you all to know that I recently decided to change directions of my music as a solo artist. I want to release music that truly reflects who I am so I need a bit more time. And yes, a full album is in the works, but you can't rush art. You will hear it loud and clear from me when it's time for me to release a new single. In the meantime here's a Spotify link to all my previously released singles. Love you guys."

how many times has girlie said this now?

 

people are tired of hearing that  it would get her ruthlessly dragged

Edited August 19, 2022 by yonsé

[yonsé]

i just popped in here to see if we were gonna get candy paint this month and i guess not 

[cliche_display]

I will put it this way using an analogy.

 

If I can lift 15 pounds on a workout machine, then does that mean I am also strong enough to lift 100 pounds? 

 

Anitta is like lifting 15 pounds. Someone who was a solo artist with a huge social media following and success in her own country. A good label and support. Not a target of extreme racism, not a threat. Knows how to do his job since she self-managed for 5 years and reached stardom. Brandon has to lift 15 pounds in that situation which is about all he can lift. Remember he's had a dozen clients outside of Normani and his only other noticeable client is a woman who had 40 million followers before signing with him. You're using this outlier to imply he's moving with extreme competence and ease. Lol. I wonder why. Although I do think even he could mess that up if given time.  Normani on the other hand, is like lifting uphill against Fifth Harmony leftover cultural baggage and nonsense, racism, colorism, Tunji leaving, a weird label collapse, and more, and he's just not strong enough or invested enough to do that.  You might even say he did trial and error on his first dozen clients so that he could land a bigger, easier one...Good for him, but not good for Normani's individual career, clearly.

 

 

How anyone could look at the level of dysfunction in this girl's career and not immediately see that she does not have a strong manager is beyond me. If Brandon was any good at all really, she would be on a different trajectory. That's literally his job. To help troubleshoot in her career especially if she has label issues. Instead, he's consistently focused on attracting bigger, easier clients. Normani might as well have been bait...

 

He deprioritized Jacob for Normani so then it's only natural he would keep social climbing when Normani ran into obstacles behind the scene. 

 

Normani needed (needs) a hardnosed, invested, experienced manager. Not just a self-interested 20 something year old frat guy who can now ride Anitta's gravy train. If he wasn't a good fit before Anitta, which he wasn't, then he's definitely not going to be any good now. Normani, please change your circle baby girl, please. The world is missing out on a star.

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by cliche_display

[cliche_display]

This is my last post of the day but do y'all remember when Tunji came on social media and gave Brandon a backhanded compliment in 2018 after the BBMAs? He called him brilliant but basically said fans were giving Brandon too much credit for arranging the "Secret Genius" songwriting sessions for Normani. Tunji, aka label people, orchestrated it.

 

Haha I remember that. Based on the fact that Brandon has sucked with Normani and most of his clients over the years, I think that's what Flare and a few of you are doing now. Giving him credit for a label doing heavy lifting (not to mention for a girl already on an upward trajectory). As for the other argument, of course creatives aren't going to turn down extra work so that makes no sense.

 

Has anyone noticed that everyone who touches Normani's career seems to elevate to another level afterwards? It's not that they come to her in highest demand, but after working with Normani closely their demand skyrockets. Look at some of the people in her career:

 

Tunji: from CEO of Keep Cool to CEO of Def Jam

Blair: from Normani's Photog to Beyonce's and Kylie Jenner's

Sean: from Normani's Choreographer to Doja's and Cardi's and Lil Nas X

Grace: from Normani's MUA to Lil Nas X's

Brandon: from Normani's manager to Anitta's

 

People are so focused on every single becoming a hit that they don't realize just what kind of CULTURAL IMPACT Normani has had as a conduit of the talent around her. Dancing is forefront for the black it girls, the black it girls are mostly rappers, and all the rappers are borrowing her choreographer if not doing songs with her. Motivation did have an impact on the industry and it was the culmination of her grabbing attention even before with 5H, DWTS, LL for her performance ability. She's elevated certain people and certain things just by being visible and buzz worthy, along with previewing the commercial viability of her style with a few moderately massive songs. Other people took advantage of the opportunities that came with the visibilty etc. Now it's time for her to elevate herself. Even if that means she has to make some changes to her team. Exclusivity and blind Loyalty is overrated.

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by cliche_display

[EnoughSaid]

I don’t know why y’all are still talking about Brandon. Normani has sabotaged herself over and over and over again. She doesn’t post, communicate, release or stay engaged in any way what so ever. We get flashes of greatness then months of silence and now straight up nothing. It was never gonna happen for her if this was what she was intending on doing so idk why she spent years hyping up her material and actually vocalizing the idea of her becoming a big pop act as black woman, specifically a dark skinned one. She had the hype and support and let it go to waste or showed no drive on more than one occasion. Even the best manager wouldn’t have helped cause she stayed in her own way

[New Agenda]

She ruined her own career. She’s not the victim 

[Flare]

47 minutes ago, EnoughSaid said:

I don’t know why y’all are still talking about Brandon. Normani has sabotaged herself over and over and over again. She doesn’t post, communicate, release or stay engaged in any way what so ever. We get flashes of greatness then months of silence and now straight up nothing. It was never gonna happen for her if this was what she was intending on doing so idk why she spent years hyping up her material and actually vocalizing the idea of her becoming a big pop act as black woman, specifically a dark skinned one. She had the hype and support and let it go to waste or showed no drive on more than one occasion. Even the best manager wouldn’t have helped cause she stayed in her own way

The spirit of @shelven took you over for this post.

[Khamis]

2 hours ago, EnoughSaid said:

I don’t know why y’all are still talking about Brandon. Normani has sabotaged herself over and over and over again. She doesn’t post, communicate, release or stay engaged in any way what so ever. We get flashes of greatness then months of silence and now straight up nothing. It was never gonna happen for her if this was what she was intending on doing so idk why she spent years hyping up her material and actually vocalizing the idea of her becoming a big pop act as black woman, specifically a dark skinned one. She had the hype and support and let it go to waste or showed no drive on more than one occasion. Even the best manager wouldn’t have helped cause she stayed in her own way

Everything here. She has turned away even of her biggest supporters. Truly a disappointment.

 

I’ll tune in when she decides to do something and even support if it’s good but I really have moved on since she dropped Fair.

Edited August 19, 2022 by Khamis

[cliche_display]

Normani has one of the choppiest album rollouts in recent pop history

 

Y'all: It couldn't possibly involve her management 

 

 

[cliche_display]

God, I wish I was that simple. Normani is not a one-man band. She is a signed artist with a brand entrusted to "professionals" who do nothing. 

 

Did Normani cancel her own BBMAs performance with Sam? Did she cancel the Motivation performance at Graham Norton? Did she decide that Disney couldn't air her episode of the Proud Family. Did she tell RCA not to fully fund the Wild Side video. Did she cause the feedback issues at the VMAs in 2019 and the screen issues at the VMAs in 2021. Did she not want RCA to promote Fair to radio and Today's Top Hits? Would she have rather had Brandon and RCA secure her a spot at the VMAs before Cardi hopped on Twitter to ask her about it? Get real. She's not sabotaging herself in the way you think. She has a very questionable team who does not know how to stand up for her in these situations and affect the ideal outcome. No wonder she's not confident with releasing. How can she be confident when she sees how many loose ends her team permits to unravel in her career. Do you think Roger has the same blase attitude with Camila? Think about how incompetent Normani's team has to be for so many things to openly fall through the cracks. And these are just instances we know of.

 

No, she does not help by avoiding social media, but I don't think she can handle the unwarranted vitriol at this point. I have gotten so flustered I've locked my keys in my car at work just dealing with small tensions and micro aggressions on this website.  Now imagine you're her and people are talking about your mother/s cancer, recasting everything you do as a flop in the midst of success, bitter Nicki fans, Camila fans, etc. and Beyonce fans saying you're not Beyonce and this crust of negative feedback coating every online discourse about her. She's clearly sensitive. WHERE IS HER MANAGER TO HELP HER NAVIGATE HER BRAND ONLINE? NOWHERE? IF HE's GOING TO BE SLOPPY HELPING HER NAVIGATE HER CAREER, WHY AT LEAST HASNT HE PUSHED TO HELP HER RECOVER HER STANDING WITH THE PUBLIC or get a social media manager? Her team is useless. We have to admit that.

 

I can't be the only one drawing a common sense conclusions here, right? I saw someone craft a statement for her that she should post. Why can't Brandon's careless ass do something like that?  Normani's fans could offer better management advice than Brandon does. She should really consider getting a better team. Someone who would motivate her and give her confidence. Beyonce had her dad at first. Camila had Roger. Rihanna had Jay Brown. Arianna, Scooter. You can not be a top act with mediocre management especially if you a face an uphill battle with your label and the industry. She needs someone who is all in. That is not Brandon and that is literally a big problem for her. She can fix it.

[Flare]

10 hours ago, Khamis said:

Everything here. She has turned away even of her biggest supporters. Truly a disappointment.

 

I’ll tune in when she decides to do something and even support if it’s good but I really have moved on since she dropped Fair.

I have a strong feeling Normani is going to look back and regret wasting this time in her life on internal battles and being overly bent out of shape over family health issues.

 

Like, you can still care about loved ones, have your love life and insecurity issues, and still push your career/set yourself up for the future. Even if she’s not dropping music, no brand deals? No attempt at acting? No hosting gigs? Just nothing except partying with Megan Thee Stallion & Cardi B (who both can actually retire from music tomorrow if they wanted since they got their #1s and Grammys already)?

 

She is very unserious as a celeb overall. The girl can’t even release a cover song, a snippet, do some tiktok posts (like everyone else her age), etc. It’s truly confusing what she does with her time unless a full visual album is coming (which I doubt). 

Edited August 19, 2022 by Flare

[Cbreezy]

49 minutes ago, cliche_display said:

God, I wish I was that simple. Normani is not a one-man band. She is a signed artist with a brand entrusted to "professionals" who do nothing. 

 

Did Normani cancel her own BBMAs performance with Sam? Did she cancel the Motivation performance at Graham Norton? Did she decide that Disney couldn't air her episode of the Proud Family. Did she tell RCA not to fully fund the Wild Side video. Did she cause the feedback issues at the VMAs in 2019 and the screen issues at the VMAs in 2021. Did she not want RCA to promote Fair to radio and Today's Top Hits? Would she have rather had Brandon and RCA secure her a spot at the VMAs before Cardi hopped on Twitter to ask her about it? Get real. She's not sabotaging herself in the way you think. She has a very questionable team who does not know how to stand up for her in these situations and affect the ideal outcome. No wonder she's not confident with releasing. How can she be confident when she sees how many loose ends her team permits to unravel in her career. Do you think Roger has the same blase attitude with Camila? Think about how incompetent Normani's team has to be for so many things to openly fall through the cracks. And these are just instances we know of.

 

No, she does not help by avoiding social media, but I don't think she can handle the unwarranted vitriol at this point. I have gotten so flustered I've locked my keys in my car at work just dealing with small tensions and micro aggressions on this website.  Now imagine you're her and people are talking about your mother/s cancer, recasting everything you do as a flop in the midst of success, bitter Nicki fans, Camila fans, etc. and Beyonce fans saying you're not Beyonce and this crust of negative feedback coating every online discourse about her. She's clearly sensitive. WHERE IS HER MANAGER TO HELP HER NAVIGATE HER BRAND ONLINE? NOWHERE? IF HE's GOING TO BE SLOPPY HELPING HER NAVIGATE HER CAREER, WHY AT LEAST HASNT HE PUSHED TO HELP HER RECOVER HER STANDING WITH THE PUBLIC or get a social media manager? Her team is useless. We have to admit that.

 

I can't be the only one drawing a common sense conclusions here, right? I saw someone craft a statement for her that she should post. Why can't Brandon's careless ass do something like that?  Normani's fans could offer better management advice than Brandon does. She should really consider getting a better team. Someone who would motivate her and give her confidence. Beyonce had her dad at first. Camila had Roger. Rihanna had Jay Brown. Arianna, Scooter. You can not be a top act with mediocre management especially if you a face an uphill battle with your label and the industry. She needs someone who is all in. That is not Brandon and that is literally a big problem for her. She can fix it.

Very valid points. 

 

I too sometimes confused when stans here (who IMO know much more than your average GP music consumer) willingly put aside said knowledge to feed whatever viewpoint they want to establish about an artist's predicament. Which is essentially what's been going on with Normani. 

 

THAT SAID...

 

She's seriously playing herself by not making the changes needed (be that management or whatever). Maybe she feels like her hands are tied or she's between a rock and hard place. She's also not at liberty to bail on a label contract she's locked in. But, at some point, something's got to give. Her name is on the front of the shop (so to speak), so any missteps people are making reflect badly on her and directly inform the perspective her potential audience have of her. 

[AFullMoonlight]

1 hour ago, cliche_display said:

God, I wish I was that simple. Normani is not a one-man band. She is a signed artist with a brand entrusted to "professionals" who do nothing. 

 

Did Normani cancel her own BBMAs performance with Sam? Did she cancel the Motivation performance at Graham Norton? Did she decide that Disney couldn't air her episode of the Proud Family. Did she tell RCA not to fully fund the Wild Side video. Did she cause the feedback issues at the VMAs in 2019 and the screen issues at the VMAs in 2021. Did she not want RCA to promote Fair to radio and Today's Top Hits? Would she have rather had Brandon and RCA secure her a spot at the VMAs before Cardi hopped on Twitter to ask her about it? Get real. She's not sabotaging herself in the way you think. She has a very questionable team who does not know how to stand up for her in these situations and affect the ideal outcome. No wonder she's not confident with releasing. How can she be confident when she sees how many loose ends her team permits to unravel in her career. Do you think Roger has the same blase attitude with Camila? Think about how incompetent Normani's team has to be for so many things to openly fall through the cracks. And these are just instances we know of.

 

No, she does not help by avoiding social media, but I don't think she can handle the unwarranted vitriol at this point. I have gotten so flustered I've locked my keys in my car at work just dealing with small tensions and micro aggressions on this website.  Now imagine you're her and people are talking about your mother/s cancer, recasting everything you do as a flop in the midst of success, bitter Nicki fans, Camila fans, etc. and Beyonce fans saying you're not Beyonce and this crust of negative feedback coating every online discourse about her. She's clearly sensitive. WHERE IS HER MANAGER TO HELP HER NAVIGATE HER BRAND ONLINE? NOWHERE? IF HE's GOING TO BE SLOPPY HELPING HER NAVIGATE HER CAREER, WHY AT LEAST HASNT HE PUSHED TO HELP HER RECOVER HER STANDING WITH THE PUBLIC or get a social media manager? Her team is useless. We have to admit that.

 

I can't be the only one drawing a common sense conclusions here, right? I saw someone craft a statement for her that she should post. Why can't Brandon's careless ass do something like that?  Normani's fans could offer better management advice than Brandon does. She should really consider getting a better team. Someone who would motivate her and give her confidence. Beyonce had her dad at first. Camila had Roger. Rihanna had Jay Brown. Arianna, Scooter. You can not be a top act with mediocre management especially if you a face an uphill battle with your label and the industry. She needs someone who is all in. That is not Brandon and that is literally a big problem for her. She can fix it.

You can be problematic at times but you always bring logic back into the discussion.  
 

25 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Very valid points. 

 

I too sometimes confused when stans here (who IMO know much more than your average GP music consumer) willingly put aside said knowledge to feed whatever viewpoint they want to establish about an artist's predicament. Which is essentially what's been going on with Normani. 

 

THAT SAID...

 

She's seriously playing herself by not making the changes needed (be that management or whatever). Maybe she feels like her hands are tied or she's between a rock and hard place. She's also not at liberty to bail on a label contract she's locked in. But, at some point, something's got to give. Her name is on the front of the shop (so to speak), so any missteps people are making reflect badly on her and directly inform the perspective her potential audience have of her. 

I get the feeling that she wants to be loyal to those around her and maybe Brandon feels like family to her. She’s close friends with the people that work for her and that can lead to a lot of yes men being in her circle. Maybe she’s not aware of how bad it is yet? I mean, that interview she had about missing the mark with Motivation and not creating merch for that was alarming.