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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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32 minutes ago, Aden said:

 

 

1. TFM is factually a double album, which is a type of album just like "studio" albums are a type of album. MJ, The Beatles, etc. have all released double albums that are considered sole bodies of work. The best way to understand the concept of the "double album" is to see the Fame portion of the album as the "deluxe tracks" of The Fame Monster.

I totally get what you're saying but if this were true she wouldn't have referred to Joanne as LG5 and Chromatica as LG6 and Heart of Charcoal as LG7

 

Edited by H34rtOfCharcoal

It's crazy that they could've milked both TF and TFM much more. Each era could've spawned at least 2 more hits.

The stylistic transformation from The Fame to The Fame Monster alone is enough for me to separate the two eras. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Artur said:

It's crazy that they could've milked both TF and TFM much more. Each era could've spawned at least 2 more hits.

Boys Boys Boys and Dance in the Dark

She can't release begin her new era next year. She'll basically have gone 5 years without releasing a new album.

2 minutes ago, Artur said:

It's crazy that they could've milked both TF and TFM much more. Each era could've spawned at least 2 more hits.

She was eager to promote additional singles from The Fame during the Fame Monster album campaign but it seems like Interscope was ready to shift focus away from The Fame. In an interview, she suggested that Boys Boys Boys would've been a great single but the label just wanted to push singles from TFM. I don't blame them since it would've been chaotic going from Bad Romance to Boys Boys Boys and then to Alejandro or Telephone. I do wish they could've squeezed a little regional single during Summer 2009 (Summerboy) with a cute little music video. 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, Aden said:

Ooh I love this topic. TF and TFM are two separate albums and eras and there are several proof points that validate this:

 

1. TFM is factually a double album, which is a type of album just like "studio" albums are a type of album. MJ, The Beatles, etc. have all released double albums that are considered sole bodies of work. The best way to understand the concept of the "double album" is to see the Fame portion of the album as the "deluxe tracks" of The Fame Monster.

2. The EP version was only released in a few countries.

3. Gaga herself said she wanted The Fame Monster to be a whole separate album but ultimately had to make a combined version with The Fame due to a business/budget decision that happened in Interscope at the time.

4. Bad Romance is a lead single.

5. TFM was nominated for Album of the Year at the Grammys. The Academy only nominates projects for this category they interpret as whole albums.

 

I never followed the idea that BTW was her "sophomore" album just because it's *technically* her second studio album, because that would mean considering Cheek to Cheek and Love 4 Sale as proper Gaga albums. And that makes no sense because that would mean LG7 would actually be LG8.

I think in her leaked documents from a while ago there was something about her negotiating TFM to count as a separate album back in the day, so even contractually it is a separate project. Then she renewed her contract after she put out Joanne and fulfilled her first 5 album contract.

 

The reason people combine the sales figures is because that's where it becomes gray area with the two often being sold together.

 

And she counts it as LG2 herself. The collab albums are TBLG1 and TBLG2

 

6 minutes ago, Marry The Gods said:

She was eager to promote additional singles from The Fame during the Fame Monster album campaign but it seems like Interscope was ready to shift focus away from The Fame. In an interview, she suggested that Boys Boys Boys would've been a great single but the label just wanted to push singles from TFM. I don't blame them since it would've been chaotic going from Bad Romance to Boys Boys Boys and then to Alejandro or Telephone. I do wish they could've squeezed a little regional single during Summer 2009 (Summerboy) with a cute little music video. 

 

 

 

 

it wasn't supposed to bleed into TFM, she wanted BBB earlier, but they pushed for paparazzi and then paparazzi kinda took off a bit late and became a very nice transition into TFM because of its darker theme anyway. the SNL performance of paparazzi really kinda says it all, she didn't even perform the original arrangement and she was in full TFM glam 

24 minutes ago, Artur said:

It's crazy that they could've milked both TF and TFM much more. Each era could've spawned at least 2 more hits.

It cannibalized her pure album sales a lot too. Lots of people who were willing to buy two albums but instead bought just one.

Simply look it this way, if OIDIA was released as an EP album of BOMT, BOMT + OIDIA (EP) would probably sell a total of ~35M pure album but instead BOMT + OIDIA totals around 45M pure album sales.

 

So hypothetically if TFM was released as an actual album I believe her album sales numbers would be:

The Fame - 11M

The Fame Monster - 8M

 

It would reduce her peak but boost her overall sales.

 

Edited by Aethereal

TFM might have been considered an ep when it was released, but now it is long as some main stream lps

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She needs to hire a live photographer so she can post cunty pictures from her tours like this one :jonnycat:

Her social media accounts are all so perfectly aligned, clean, and polished lately. It pleases my OCD heart. :heart:

 

(Minus her Snapchat being outdated, but I'm pretty sure it's been abandoned altogether anyway.)

4 minutes ago, Janet said:

June 2024 is ours? :suburban:

If by ours you mean little halseys and little keshiers 

then yes, 

it's ours

:suburban:

1 minute ago, hausofbryan said:

Her social media accounts are all so perfectly aligned, clean, and polished lately. It pleases my OCD heart. :heart:

 

(Minus her Snapchat being outdated, but I'm pretty sure it's been abandoned altogether anyway.)

this was my first time thinking about snapchat in a few years so maybe that has something to do with it 

Just now, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

this was my first time thinking about snapchat in a few years so maybe that has something to do with it 

Some of us are old ok :monkey: 

but yeah after last year's nightmare we have to admit her social media accounts are serving while she's able to maintain her privacy as well

I mean we've had studio pics, a movie trailer and poster and now several TCBf posts, such a massive improvement after a year of #ads

Just now, hausofbryan said:

Some of us are old ok :monkey: 

tbh I don't think it's a matter of age 

it just came and went for most people as a social media platform

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