Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

ATRL

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.
Login issues
New Releases Out Now! 🎶

Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

Featured Replies

3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I am all for trolling her and having a laugh in here, but sometimes it seems like you straight up dislike her. Blues is a natural genre for her. I'd say its much more of a natural progression than country, in fact.

 

Also, the Harriet Tubman mention feels a bit left-field if I'm being honest.

 

Im not a hater at all, Bey is consistently by FAR the artist I listened most to every single year. I just don't vibe with her approach to her music career in 2023/2024. There's elements I still love (ambition, the quality, creaitivity, her shows, her undeniable talent), but then theres things that I simply dont vibe with (detached from reality, untruthful statements, big launches, nothing that manages to keep interest, sterile approach to selling content, no performances/visuals)

  • Replies 143.5k
  • Views 7m
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Topics in this Discussion

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • It was the best concert of my life, bar none. Idc!    It was extraordinary, it was ineffable.  I knew I loved it based on the videos but I... Hey I don't know.    Best moment

  • SashaDevachelli
    SashaDevachelli

    I know this award is a joke but the point is, she has cemented herself in history with the likes of Whitney and Lauryn. And on top of that she won an award for a genre that completely ridiculed and ex

  • Potentially #1 in the US, UK and Canada in the same week   

17 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

 

 

With CC, she consciously played into stereotypes of Country but didnt execute what Country truly means - a laidback, non-glamorous style of music. Its literally called Country. What we shouldve gotten were some Jeans looks, some backyard session, some fun, down-to-earth moments. Idgaf about u having been to a Rodeo or 2 when u were 9 years old. Make me believe in this era. But she didn't.

I'm not sure you understand country the way you think you do. Women in country are basically drag queens. It's the cosplayers who are the ones putting on jeans and tipping their hats every day.

 

64dbc94f4ef9f30019f77674?width=800&forma

 

shania-twain-music-video-dont-impress-ht

 

This is one of the most successful country artists of all time. Without even mentioning Dolly Parton and how she dresses.

16 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I'm not sure you understand country the way you think you do. Women in country are basically drag queens. It's the cosplayers who are the ones putting on jeans and tipping their hats every day.

 

64dbc94f4ef9f30019f77674?width=800&forma

 

shania-twain-music-video-dont-impress-ht

 

This is one of the most successful country artists of all time. Without even mentioning Dolly Parton and how she dresses.

And she became that by mingling with Pop music and aesthetics and thus blurring the lines, just like Taylor did. She also still always made sure to appear approachable, give interviews, make jokes, etc.. nothing that Bey is doing

 

Dolly is kind of the same - she always appeared approachable, even made fun of herself for using wigs and always appeared like someone "of the people", tho wearing expensive clothes at times. Bey on the other hand tries her hardest to be seen as unapproachable as possible, which plays into her luxury brand approach, but not into what is needed to make a Country project work

Edited by Kristie Kuwa

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Ill be blunt:

Blues screams BORING in 2024/25, especially coming after Cowboy Carter which already was very midtempo.

Bey has always done better when serving uptempo, energetic, sassy content. So I want that from my biased point of view. 

 

Also after CC, which felt very cosplay, I'm a bit exhausted of another era of her cosplaying. Blues is not authentic to the artist that is Beyonce, regardless whether she finds a great aunt in the lineage of Knowles who had ties to the genre

 

Speaking of, that whole shtick of finding people in her family tree with some sort of ties to what she's currently doing is also getting REAL tired. It was cute for Uncle Johnny, but cmon now. Give me something better than "my great-great-aunt was best friends with Harriet Tubman, so I dedicate this Rock project to her, cause she rocked"

Why are you ignoring Cadillac Records on purpose? Blues IS authentic to Beyoncé.

 

There are fans out there who have been longing to hear this sound from her, let us enjoy this sophisticated and classy side of her. Plus, she is the type of person that gets bored pretty easily. She's not keen on repeating herself, hence I'm afraid you won't be satisfied anytime soon.

The notion of a black person cosplaying a genre of music that was created by black people is the very reason we're getting these three acts btw :)

33 minutes ago, king_queen said:

The notion of a black person cosplaying a genre of music that was created by black people is the very reason we're getting these three acts btw :)

Dont act obtuse: im not saying her doing Country is cosplay per se, but the way shes selling the product certainly makes it appear like cosplay.

 

1 hour ago, Pepo said:

Why are you ignoring Cadillac Records on purpose? Blues IS authentic to Beyoncé.

 

There are fans out there who have been longing to hear this sound from her, let us enjoy this sophisticated and classy side of her. Plus, she is the type of person that gets bored pretty easily. She's not keen on repeating herself, hence I'm afraid you won't be satisfied anytime soon.

Again, my dissatisfaction does not stem from the output itself.

If she does nothing with whatever act3 is other than launching an incomplete vinyl and no additional content other than the album itself + her playing dress up, then you are absolutely right that im not gonna be satisfied anytime soon.

i'm all for whacking the cowboy cosplay but let's not act like Ren wasn't cosplay as well nnnn

 

I can assure you the woman who did everything in her power to not make edm songs, who avoids singing her pop and dance heavy tracks like the plague and probably isn't singing any ren song not named cuff it ever again isn't the dance-pop lover Renaissance would make you think she is. her favorite song on the album is literally the least dancey one and she certainly doesn't listen to a. g. cook and hyperpop on the regular either :deadbanana4:

 

let her put her Prince wig on and pretend to know how to play electric guitar bc her grand aunt Betsy was a Metallica fan all she wants :duca:

1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Dont act obtuse: im not saying her doing Country is cosplay per se, but the way shes selling the product certainly makes it appear like cosplay.

Beyoncé hasn't promoted an album since 2018. Was she cosplaying music then too?

also y'all spend too much time deciphering finger poses and insta captions when the biggest tease in the history of beyoncé teases was this

 

GGIqRyVbsAAKDwm.jpg:large

GGLeX_6WwAIzkZn.jpg

3 minutes ago, king_queen said:

Beyoncé hasn't promoted an album since 2018. Was she cosplaying music then too?

Sonically, both TG and Renaissance felt very much cohesive in terms of Beyonces output thus far compared to CC, which feels more like and outliner

 

If you ask Africans, a LOT of people thought of TG as cosplay, yes. If you can't be bothered to meet up with African producers or be see in public events then u do indeed seem very detached. And African music culture is a lot of things, but not detached like Bey presents herself constantly

Edited by Kristie Kuwa

Conman Carter barely showing a pulse on the Billboard 200.

 

:deadbanana2:

If we ever get to watch the visuals it's gonna be weird to not see her using one single platinum blonde wig for Cowboy Carter. You can tell that look was decided this year. The only blonde wig in relation to the album before 2024 is the one for the Dolly red vinyl look. 

 

It's easy to see in the booklet the pictures that are taken from the visuals too from her hair alone: the looks from the visualizers, the one with the rhinestone blood, the one for II Hands II Heaven and the one with the green dress in the back of a bus(?.

 

I like that they included every try they did for the new cover too. 

3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Sonically, both TG and Renaissance felt very much cohesive in terms of Beyonces output thus far compared to CC, which feels more like and outliner

 

If you ask Africans, a LOT of people thought of TG as cosplay, yes. If you can't be bothered to meet up with African producers or be see in public events then u do indeed seem very detached. And African music culture is a lot of things, but not detached like Bey presents herself constantly

Beyoncé is allowed to experiment with whatever genre of music she likes and as much as we all hate it, she is at the point in her career where she can promote her albums as much or as little as she likes.

 

The people from Africa who thought she was cosplaying afrobeats (which makes zero sense bc you can't cosplay a music genre :)) we're wrong just like you're wrong from saying she's cosplaying country. I'd take it further and say it's even worse that you're in this base perpetuating the same racist ideologies that made her feel unwelcome at the CMAs in 2016. 

Look at those two devil horns covering her tatas.

 

She is a demon.

She's gone twice to see the Eldorado Ballroom show Solange has curated. We might get those two looks this week (with more things to read as hints). There's a third show tonight.

 

Funnily enough: "Eldorado Ballroom is a former nightclub in the Third Ward, Houston. Musical styles at the venue included blues and jazz." El dorado means golden too. :toofunny3:

 

28 minutes ago, Chris said:

06-beyonce-cr-Mason-Poole-billboard-1548.jpg

 

Nasty woman.

 

:shakeno:

Did she forget she released this during that last interview or smthn?
 

like how can she confidently say "no visuals they're a distraction" like as if that was her plan all along when we literally have a teaser and multiple shots from the visuals/her filming them. 
 

She really don't care lol
 

 

She clearly scrapped the visuals and changed plans midway. 

 

 

Respect her for it. If she didn't feel comfortable releasing art she felt confident about putting out, that's admirable. 

 

Like I mentioned in the discord, if Beyonce needs to be charged for something let it be for obstructing visual media.

 

:shakeno:

On 10/9/2024 at 5:09 PM, mons†er said:

act iii: HIIITSVIIILE 

:jonny5::jonny5::jonny5:

 

Rock

Motown Sound

Doowop

Gospel 

Jazz

 

:jonny4::jonny4::jonny4:

 

still praying and hoping this is what's going to happen. I haven't stopped thinking about it since my delusion and I came up with it. 

5 minutes ago, mons†er said:

still praying and hoping this is what's going to happen. I haven't stopped thinking about it since my delusion and I came up with it. 

Wait :deadbanana:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitsville_UK

 

The Clash has a song in reference to Hitsville and the song used in the original Pool Hall commercial is by The Clash. What are the chances? :deadbanana2:

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

Account

Navigation

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.