4 hours ago, AxelFox said:

 

 

Just re-watched this for the first time in years and was in awe the entire time but then I just felt so sad at the end realizing this is Madonna at the same point in her carrer Beyonce was with Renaissance... how unfortunate it is that she doesn't have the drive and passion in her to do this kind of stuff anymore Could've been a glorious chapter in her career

Unfortunately times have changed since then. Big artists don't perform as much anymore. Back then you had to promote. I don't think she wants to do anymore TV performances. As a fan it's a hard pill to swallow. 

21 hours ago, Likingstars said:

Why are the people in here going crazy over Rih? This is not 2006 y'all weird

It's giving the beyhive forums, iykyk

21 hours ago, kimberly said:

I think it's the caption, the "ain't no back n forth" part. she's saying "the crown is mine and no one else's."

That's purely your interpretation. It could also be interpreted to telling people there's no discussion when it comes to her musical success despite people assuming she retired because she was a flop (esp after how long it took her to get anti out with all the false starts)

 

it's possible for her and Beyoncé to coexist and they have for over a decade now, like lets not…

Edited June 1, 20242 yr by yonsé

1 hour ago, AxelFox said:

I will have to disagree. The fact that she cannot be bothered to go out there to showcase the art and performance she's worked so much on and share it with the world just tells me that she has lost the drive and passion for it. Simple as that. 
 

And I don't mean it in a 'visit every late night show' way obviously, but at least do the major award shows. Like she did for ST and Lem.

 

The tour was incredible indeed but it's not the same as televised award show performances. Very different mediums. 
 

She clearly still loves making music as the results have been overwhelmingly good, but it feels like it's just a fun side activity for her now. Which is all fair and square, she's been at it for so long and has more than earned to be in this position. But that doesn't mean it doesn't sting and disappoint as a fan.

 

I do agree however that the industry changing has probably played a lot into this. Because if she was at the same point in her career back in 2006 I'm sure things would've played out completely different. 

she doesn't do award shows because they use her for ratings and then never award her. she is tired of being used and that's valid. Doesn't mean she doesn't have drive lol

7 hours ago, AxelFox said:

 

Just re-watched this for the first time in years and was in awe the entire time but then I just felt so sad at the end realizing this is Madonna at the same point in her carrer Beyonce was with Renaissance... how unfortunate it is that she doesn't have the drive and passion in her to do this kind of stuff anymore Could've been a glorious chapter in her career

I mean, yes, but I'd still much rather have her serve an excellent album every other year and dip than be omnipresent and mediocre like post-COADF era Madonna. 

 

 

Happy Pride Day faggits.

 

8 hours ago, AxelFox said:

but then I just felt so sad

I was sad when she butchered this song again for Celebration Tour instead of doing something similar to this.

 

 

OT: What everyone's top five on Cowboy Carter at the moment btw?

 

Anything change?

 

 

2 hours ago, yonsé said:

she doesn't do award shows because they use her for ratings and then never award her

well, at least not the big categories. we can't pretend she isn't still one of the most decorated artists of all time

4 hours ago, Shelter said:

Unfortunately times have changed since then. Big artists don't perform as much anymore. Back then you had to promote. I don't think she wants to do anymore TV performances. As a fan it's a hard pill to swallow. 

yes, people need to understand that. Tailor released like 5 albums since 2021 but hasn't performed at the Grammys (or any award show, I don't think) since. Ariana, same story with 2021 iHeart Awards performance with The Weeknd. 

 

though both of these artists have done SNL since then. Bey could do at least something, one thing... I don't like the "no crumbs" approach.

 

then again, as soon as she goes on tour, we'll all be gagged again. can she top RWT? it's gonna be really hard for me idk idk.

Bey could really carve out a new niche for herself in the vinyl space if she took it more seriously. 
 

I've been paying attention to the sales of all the girls releasing this year (excepting TS). In spite of better streams than Bey, they all debuted lower cus they simply can't sell physically like Bey can even though they're more organised: longer lead times, more variants, more vinyl content, timely presentation etc. 

 

Bey butchered most of these but still made a buck. How cool would it be for her to go even further with her vinyl package? Idk, a lyric sheet for one song, a personal letter to fans, some cheap collectible. I don't care what it is, take inspiration from the elaborate k-pop releases and give people extra reason to get excited for a vinyl. Put a real bonus track (all variants) there. We know it will never show up on streaming services unlike the other girl's "bonus (bogus)" tracks. 
 

She already has the collectors in a tizzy with the matching back covers. That's good, go further. Esp after the stunt with the "limited edition" she needs win back some customer trust. And for the love of God, you're a global superstar, make your product available at all retailers. I get keeping it under wraps until release to prevent leaks but it should be available for pre-order. 
 

I don't expect Beyonce will ever become a bigger deal on streaming. It's fine. She's from a different generation but she could take better  advantage  of her position as a relevant veteran. 
 

The death knell is her perfectionist streak: Bey was literally tweaking Ren on release week and I'm not talking about the controversy-driven edits. Vinyls requires long lead time. I would just suggest a standard version for vinyl pressings and a deluxe version she can play with till release date. It's not like she hasn't put out multiple versions before. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Bey'Knight said:

Bey could really carve out a new niche for herself in the vinyl space if she took it more seriously. 
 

I've been paying attention to the sales of all the girls releasing this year (excepting TS). In spite of better streams than Bey, they all debuted lower cus they simply can't sell physically like Bey can even though they're more organised: longer lead times, more variants, more vinyl content, timely presentation etc. 

 

Bey butchered most of these but still made a buck. How cool would it be for her to go even further with her vinyl package? Idk, a lyric sheet for one song, a personal letter to fans, some cheap collectible. I don't care what it is, take inspiration from the elaborate k-pop releases and give people extra reason to get excited for a vinyl. Put a real bonus track (all variants) there. We know it will never show up on streaming services unlike the other girl's "bonus (bogus)" tracks. 
 

She already has the collectors in a tizzy with the matching back covers. That's good, go further. Esp after the stunt with the "limited edition" she needs win back some customer trust. And for the love of God, you're a global superstar, make your product available at all retailers. I get keeping it under wraps until release to prevent leaks but it should be available for pre-order. 
 

I don't expect Beyonce will ever become a bigger deal on streaming. It's fine. She's from a different generation but she could take better  advantage  of her position as a relevant veteran. 
 

The death knell is her perfectionist streak: Bey was literally tweaking Ren on release week and I'm not talking about the controversy-driven edits. Vinyls requires long lead time. I would just suggest a standard version for vinyl pressings and a deluxe version she can play with till release date. It's not like she hasn't put out multiple versions before. 

all this!!!

 

plus, she needs to get into vinyl space by releasing all her damn albums on vinyl. it irks me so much that I only have B'day on vinyl from her back catalog, before 2016. even if I paid a pretty penny for the resale vinyl pressings for Self-Titled and Dangerously in Love, there's still more in her discography that needs to be on vinyl. yes, I even want EVERYTHING IS LOVE!!! she really needs to get on this.

 

as money-hungry as she is, I can't believe she hasn't figured this out yet. she's lagging so far behind the current pop girls, even the Avon lady dropped her entire catalog on widely available vinyl releases.

I mean we've said this millions of times already - she simply doesnt care.

She likes going into the booth, recording music and being creative there.

She also enjoys performing in stadiums because there's a clear price-performance ratio she likes.

She also enjoys photoshoots.

 

Other than that, she dislikes everything else that has to do with the music industry and thus her career. And that is sth, fans rightfully point out as lack of passion. She also gives a flying **** about us fans. Thats also a reality. She doesnt do any fan service whatsoever.

Edited June 2, 20242 yr by Kristie Kuwa

17 hours ago, AxelFox said:

 

 

Just re-watched this for the first time in years and was in awe the entire time but then I just felt so sad at the end realizing this is Madonna at the same point in her carrer Beyonce was with Renaissance... how unfortunate it is that she doesn't have the drive and passion in her to do this kind of stuff anymore Could've been a glorious chapter in her career

2006 has never heard of dimming the lights, OMG. Would've been so much more iconic if the light wasn't blasting at her the entire time lol

4 hours ago, kimberly said:

all this!!!

 

plus, she needs to get into vinyl space by releasing all her damn albums on vinyl. it irks me so much that I only have B'day on vinyl from her back catalog, before 2016. even if I paid a pretty penny for the resale vinyl pressings for Self-Titled and Dangerously in Love, there's still more in her discography that needs to be on vinyl. yes, I even want EVERYTHING IS LOVE!!! she really needs to get on this.

 

as money-hungry as she is, I can't believe she hasn't figured this out yet. she's lagging so far behind the current pop girls, even the Avon lady dropped her entire catalog on widely available vinyl releases.

It's the double-edged sword of her reaction to 4's performance. It awakened her greatest artistic intellect but she also loosened the reins on housekeeping. This is where the lack of a proper management shows. It's hard to find vinyl copies of her back catalogue in a record store. 

Thinking back on it, who tf let 4 leak a whole MONTH early???

 

I know mfers we're getting cussed out behind the scenes

what the hell... I can't believe I never knew this song existed.

 

 

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I met Beyonce when she was 15 years old and attending HSPVA (High School Of Performing & Visual Arts) in Houston, Texas where we both were raised. .. We go waaay back. She loved the song and said yes to my request to doing backing vocals on my hit tune! Remember kiddos If you don't ask..the answer is always NO! Though her part is minimal she is singing the hook "All That I'm Looking For " and "Tiger Hear Me Roar" and all the ooh and doooo's ! lol

 

Edited June 2, 20242 yr by Burn

The usual are at it again.

 

 

 

Do people not get tired?

58 minutes ago, king_queen said:

Thinking back on it, who tf let 4 leak a whole MONTH early???

 

I know mfers we're getting cussed out behind the scenes

2011 was also the year the entirety of Sony got hacked. I wouldn't be surprised if a copy of the album was somewhere at Sony Pictures for potential licensing on their upcoming movies.

4 got leaked from the labels website and servers, same with RTW and EOT

1 hour ago, Burn said:

what the hell... I can't believe I never knew this song existed.

 

 

From the description:

 

wtf lol

18 hours ago, Shelter said:

Unfortunately times have changed since then. Big artists don't perform as much anymore. Back then you had to promote. I don't think she wants to do anymore TV performances. As a fan it's a hard pill to swallow. 

Yeah she don't have to do TV stuff but she could be doing something.... Anything. 

15 hours ago, cloudbusting said:

well, at least not the big categories. we can't pretend she isn't still one of the most decorated artists of all time

The only time she performs at them since ST is if she is up for the main award. Which she has still never won. The VMAs are the only ones who gave her that respect. But she's not showing up to the Grammys or Oscars to perform and walk away empty handed. She's over it and that is ok.

29 minutes ago, yonsé said:

The only time she performs at them since ST is if she is up for the main award. Which she has still never won. The VMAs are the only ones who gave her that respect. But she's not showing up to the Grammys or Oscars to perform and walk away empty handed. She's over it and that is ok.

Those awards are voted on by their membership. Pretty sure VMAs just give it to whoever they want.