It makes sense if COWBOY CARTER narratively comes before RENAISSANCE, not only because she might've started working on it before, but also because in 16 CARRIAGES she's still not found the peace, she's still overwhelmed. It was only during the lockdown that she evolved into the peaceful, grateful and joyful person she's been during RENAISSANCE 

Just now, Jon Snow said:

It makes sense if COWBOY CARTER narratively comes before RENAISSANCE, not only because she might've started working on it before, but also because in 16 CARRIAGES she's still not found the peace, she's still overwhelmed. It was only during the lockdown that she evolved into the peaceful, grateful and joyful person she's been during RENAISSANCE 

Your takes always be eating girl!

10 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It makes sense if COWBOY CARTER narratively comes before RENAISSANCE, not only because she might've started working on it before, but also because in 16 CARRIAGES she's still not found the peace, she's still overwhelmed. It was only during the lockdown that she evolved into the peaceful, grateful and joyful person she's been during RENAISSANCE 

Another reason why the theories about 16C being the album closer don't make sense to me. It's giving album opener 

beginning, middle, or end 16C will be a highlight.

 

do we think travis scott is on the album. he's on snl this weekend

Just now, family.guy123 said:

do we think travis scott is on the album. he's on snl this weekend

let's ship this idea back

 

some of the photos were on mason's portfolio and some aren't... 

 

the new visuals photos aren't there.

"16 CARRIAGES" definitely gives 'album opener', but I feel like it may be somewhere in the middle. For some reason, it's giving 5-9, but we'll see.

 

One thing I definitely feel what is a guarantee, for the fans and listeners that hated "FREEDOM" and "BLACK PARADE", I hope they're aware from her post and leading with 2 singles (although I feel like one is the equivalent of a dog for jingle), they are definitely the 'safest' songs on the album. I see a lot of the (younger) fans on X who just don't understand what she meant in her post and it was clear as day, or the songs specifically used in the announcement video. 

I'm not believing anything until it comes literally out of the horses mouth

 

Edited March 26, 20242 yr by Massive_Teardrop

1 hour ago, Blue Rose said:

The tracklist will probably leak from a retailer instead of it being used as a tool to move some of these vinyls  

Speaking of which, why are there still so many variants? I think I remember at this point before Renaissance's release, all the CDs and the collector's vinyl have sold out.

I'm not ready for this album to blare inside my house and inner tight walls for the next 2 years.

 

Rennie was on loop every single day. Not even Lemonade or self-titled had that chokehold effect on me. I can't believe that era's ending, but I know CC will gag us proper. Call it gag country if you will. 

Edited March 26, 20242 yr by Starshine

21 minutes ago, CécredSpaces said:

Speaking of which, why are there still so many variants? I think I remember at this point before Renaissance's release, all the CDs and the collector's vinyl have sold out.

There was a longer period to sell them and she only had 30K vinyls on sale (I think she has around 150K this time)

not Rihanna in a cowboy hat. Here comes more theories

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....am i the only one who doesn't love 16C? Like for me Texas Hold EM is a smash and >> while 16c drags for me. i really hope it is towards the beginning to get it dine.

 

 

 

I'm not fully buying the Beak x Bey rumor but, I won't lie it's got me intrigued this is highly suspect And Nose would certainly eat up a country song since she's a boring pharma hag these days

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15 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

I'm not fully buying the Beak x Bey rumor but, I won't lie it's got me intrigued this is highly suspect And Nose would certainly eat up a country song since she's a boring pharma hag these days

Honestly, I don't understand why most of the hive is so against the Lady Gaga collaboration. Lady Gaga is extremely talented and I'm sure that if her and Beyonce collaborated, Beyonce will make sure it was of the highest caliber. I wonder if it has more to do with the interactions between the hive and the monsters that makes people so adverse to this idea

16 Carriages is the Pretty Hurts of the album

2 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

Honestly, I don't understand why most of the hive is so against the Lady Gaga collaboration. Lady Gaga is extremely talented and I'm sure that if her and Beyonce collaborated, Beyonce will make sure it was of the highest caliber. I wonder if it has more to do with the interactions between the hive and the monsters that makes people so adverse to this idea

It certainly has to do with the fanbase interactions rather than the nose herself. Particularly on this site I vividly remember the lashings Bey got for The Gift bombing, no oscars, the constant dangling of how "telephone was Bey's last hit" (which was just false even before THE smashed) and it got to a low point where people started getting racist which caused the whole site to go down and enforce new posting policies. 
 

With stuff like that it's really no surprise why some hive are so against the idea. While gaga is a former shell of her glory these days, she is still talented and an amazing artist who has the upmost respect for Bey and I would not mind at all for them to collab. I don't see it for CC though, especially for what the theme of the album it doesn't make sense

14 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

Honestly, I don't understand why most of the hive is so against the Lady Gaga collaboration. Lady Gaga is extremely talented and I'm sure that if her and Beyonce collaborated, Beyonce will make sure it was of the highest caliber. I wonder if it has more to do with the interactions between the hive and the monsters that makes people so adverse to this idea

Honestly this lol. I don't see the issue especially when Telephone Pt. 2 has literally been one of the most anticipated collabs in all of Pop Music within the last decade lmao! It would be künt af, and no fanbase is delusional enough to believe that Bey needed Lady Gaga for a #1 or any kind of hit. 

5 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

16 Carriages is the Pretty Hurts of the album

Oohhh this ate a little bit right here.

7 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

It certainly has to do with the fanbase interactions rather than the nose herself. Particularly on this site I vividly remember the lashings Bey got for The Gift bombing, no oscars, the constant dangling of how "telephone was Bey's last hit" (which was just false even before THE smashed) and it got to a low point where people started getting racist which caused the whole site to go down and enforce new posting policies. 
 

With stuff like that it's really no surprise why some hive are so against the idea. While gaga is a former shell of her glory these days, she is still talented and an amazing artist who has the upmost respect for Bey and I would not mind at all for them to collab. I don't see it for CC though, especially for what the theme of the album it doesn't make sense

I think fans need to remember that our interactions with certain fanbases don't parallel the relationships of the artists. With that in mind, a Lady Gaga collab now or 5 years in the future don't bother me as long as it makes sense for what it is.

Edited March 26, 20242 yr by Space&Time

i literally can't physically go to sleep if somebody don't tell me wtf is going on with all these update accounts and insiders just tweeting random numbers dpmo 

7 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

I don't see it for CC though, especially for what the theme of the album it doesn't make sense

this is my biggest qualm with a collab this era - it's just not the right fit at the moment imo. even with Rennie being partly about reclamation, that would've made more sense (or Bey replacing Ariana's thin wispy vocals on Rain On Me)

 

that being said, obviously I will lose my mind if it ends up happening because my little manager wig will be ripped off by another installment of their combined slay

26 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

Honestly, I don't understand why most of the hive is so against the Lady Gaga collaboration. Lady Gaga is extremely talented and I'm sure that if her and Beyonce collaborated, Beyonce will make sure it was of the highest caliber. I wonder if it has more to do with the interactions between the hive and the monsters that makes people so adverse to this idea

There has to be logical reason for a collab, there's no point to it now, nothing to gain, nothing shared. Beyonce has so many options and a point to prove, Nose wouldn't help with any of that. 
 

It's ironic to hear "rumors" about a collab now mainly coming from the monsters given how they were before. They have nothing going on and they're always trying to incorporate their fave into current conversations for no reason.