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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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4 minutes ago, luxurious said:

I think the main issue is that when you see cowboy carter you think of jay z at first 

 

cowboy and then the carter last name is far more associated with him than it is with her

 

and everyone knows Beyonce is Jay Z's wife...so...it connects

 

she's not going to pretend to hate & distance herself from her husband & kids b/c ppl are obsessed with fantasizing over her being this single woman. The name "Carter" is part of her identity and her legacy too.

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6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

act i: Club Carter

act iii: Cowboy Carter

 

this would’ve been cuntier 

but then we wouldve lost out on the name Renaisamples 

:suburban:

Why is the today show saying to tune in at 5:30 AM on 3/29?

I’m obsessed with this blonde hair, let those jugs hang, wear that red lipstick, a COWGIRL:jonny5:

6 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

 

and everyone knows Beyonce is Jay Z's wife...so...it connects

 

she's not going to pretend to hate & distance herself from her husband & kids b/c ppl are obsessed with fantasizing over her being this single woman. The name "Carter" is part of her identity and her legacy too.

I'm fine with the title, but let's not rewrite things too much lol. 

 

Yes, there's a handful of the Hive who will dislike because of the Jay-Z connection, but I generally don't usually like when female artists make a point of constant nods to their menses. Note how it's never the other way around. We never got nor will we ever get a Jay album called "Hottest Chick in the Game Wearing My Chain".

 

Much like the Mrs Carter Tour, it's a clear nod (or implied nod) to her "married-into" family name. And... her man.

 

It's a very "I luh my man" move that we've seen from many female acts who not-so-coincidentally are always the bigger act than said man. 

 

I love The Carters and their whole royalty positioning, but In terms of future-proofing (because anything can happen), is it really most ideal having various projects bearing a name that may not always be hers (hypothetically speaking)?

 

Again, I literally have no issue with the title and am moreso excited that we finally have the preorder link, but yeah...I get why there could be some rustled feathers. A lil.

Edited by Cbreezy

1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

Why is the today show saying to tune in at 5:30 AM on 3/29?

Who gon be there at 5:30 in the morning tho? They mad crazy

5 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

 

and everyone knows Beyonce is Jay Z's wife...so...it connects

 

she's not going to pretend to hate & distance herself from her husband & kids b/c ppl are obsessed with fantasizing over her being this single woman. The name "Carter" is part of her identity and her legacy too.

and this is a Beyoncé album. Her as a person is the primary focus not her status as “Jay Z’s wife” something that many ppl reduce her to 

20 minutes ago, BnPac said:

WW yes. Unless most international fans sit this out because of the shipping and taxes. 

I did hope she would stock more and had prepared something bigger for waiting this long. 

There is a EU store now and UK store. Shipping is cheaper I think 

Even though the silence felt like forever I’m kinda glad there’s basically only two weeks left until the album. we have another cover coming(?) the track list, possibly features etc all in store and potentially the visuals if the rumours are true

3 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I'm fine with the title, but let's not rewrite things too much lol. 

 

Yes, there's a handful of the Hive who will dislike because of the Jay-Z connection, but I generally don't usually like when female artists make a point of constant nods to their menses. Note how it's never the other way around. We never got nor will we ever get a Jay album called "Hottest Chick in the Game Wearing My Chain".

 

Much like the Mrs Carter Tour, it's a clear nod (or implied nod) to her "married-into" family name. And... her man.

 

It's a very "I luh my man" move that we've seen from many female acts who not-so-coincidentally are always the bigger act than said man. 

 

I love The Carters and their whole royalty positioning, but In terms of future-proofing (because anything can happen), is it really most ideal having various projects bearing a name that may not always be hers (hypothetically speaking)?

 

Again, I literally have no issue with the title and am moreso excited that we finally have the preorder link, but yeah...I get why there could be some rustled feathers. A lil.

 

Carter is HER name....this a real marriage & a real family for the last 16 years. Whether she was a bank teller or a music artist....Carter is part of her identity too.

 

even if they divorced tomorrow...she spent 16 out of 22 years tied with it & birthed 3 children that carry the name. this hasn't been a fly by night relationship.

 

was she supposed to name the album Cowboy Knowles??

11 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

We never got nor will we ever get a Jay album called "Hottest Chick in the Game Wearing My Chain".

Well Beyoncé never had one before either, did she? It's also a play on her name. It's not just Jay’s name anymore, it is HER name. He might not have an album of that name but he has countless songs that glorify her, one you just quoted which is embed in Hip Hop culture as a way to declaring your undying love for a woman. 

There’s also more than 90% of his songs since they met that refer to her either by direct name or by innuendo. Every person has their love language and their way of loving. It's her choice and it's not our business. 

 

I also want to address the fact that the GP at large does not know that Jay-Z' name is Carter. Some became aware of it thanks to Beyoncé and the controversy of the Mrs. Carter WT so I doubt people will think of him when picking that album. 

Edited by BnPac

Welp…I just spent over $300 and bought everything. Hopefully this empowers Bey to continue making decisions that trigger the hive. 
Real Housewives Television GIF by I Dream of NeNe: The Wedding

Her children are also Carters so I'm just imagining the album name is for them :bird:

Edited by verzden

Just now, Carla Rosón said:

Imagen

 

wait :WAP:

That's my favorite one as well. 

6 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

 

Carter is HER name....this a real marriage & a real family for the last 16 years. Whether she was a bank teller or a music artist....Carter is part of her identity too.

 

even if they divorced tomorrow...she spent 16 out of 22 years tied with it & birthed 3 children that carry the name. this hasn't been a fly by night relationship.

 

was she supposed to name the album Cowboy Knowles??

It's really not the name people truly associate with her lol. That's a married-into thing. Something she selectively plays up and plays down as she feels.

 

No one thinks of Beyonce Carter. She, for a very long time, went by Beyonce Knowles and that is what is cemented into public consciousness outside of her name as a singular mononym. 

 

If anything she and Jay played down the relationship and even their marriage for a lil bit. Ironically to keep that private and keep their artistic identities somewhat separate.

 

Even seeing "Beyonce Knowles-Carter" these days tends to catch me a lil off guard. 

 

But hey, Cowboy Carter it is lol. 

 

 

Edited by Cbreezy

since y'all said the white vinyl is rare I just pre-ordered that as well

flashback to when I had a meltdown and said I refuse to pre-order anything unless there are visuals

 

:suburban:

2 minutes ago, Carla Rosón said:

Imagen

 

wait :WAP:

RIGHT! I got this.. and thinking I’m gonna get the red too :wanda:

This woman's name is literally Beyonce Carter, why are you mad?

Fuck Outta Here Go Away GIF by Desus & Mero

 

Can anyone find that Flier from the Summer Rennie ad?  It had a March date on it, and a couple of titles.  @ShouldersSideways, I think you and I discussed it before.

 

Was the date 3/29? 

 

The "100,000 Watts of Healing Power" keeps reminding me of one of the titles on it

 

the main reason why I hope the official cover is different from the saddle would be that it would confirm this theory which would be cool

can we spam Parkwood Ent. and make sure we have “COWBOY CARTER” in Dolby Atmos come 3.29? :giraffe:

4 minutes ago, QueenB said:

since y'all said the white vinyl is rare I just pre-ordered that as well

flashback to when I had a meltdown and said I refuse to pre-order anything unless there are visuals

 

:suburban:

It had the lowest quantity

2 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

It's really not lol. 

 

No one thinks of Beyonce Carter. She, for a very long time, went by Beyonce Knowles and that is what is cemented into public consciousness outside of her name as a singular mononym. 

 

If anything she and Jay played down the relationship and even their marriage for a lil bit. Ironically to keep that private and keep their artistic identities somewhat separate.

 

Even seeing "Beyonce Knowles-Carter" these days tends to catch me a lil off guard these days. 

 

But hey, Cowboy Carter it is lol. 

 

The issue is that you always have on this pseudo-business marketing Parkwood hat on. Everything is always about business & brand. Like I said, this is an actual family and that is her last name. she explained all of this back when ppl said things about the Mrs Carter tour. Carter is part of her identity..."brand" or not. It was never going to be Cowboy Knowles.

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