All that hoeing paid off for @Click Clack

 

 

Congrats dude.

 

Enjoy the show and maybe practice some abstinence.

 

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

I'd love to hear what Black Hive think, if they're willing to share.

 

as a non-Black poc, I never feel comfortable singing along to certain parts of her songs. I am all in to cheer and support the sentiment but I don't want to be shouting "I just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" over people like that, especially since her crowds have plenty of Black folks who can and will sing along and feel empowered by the message in a way that does not apply to me. some of her lines and messages aren't for me, and that's okay. in a way, white / non-Black people participating almost dilutes the impact of those lines, in my opinion. but obviously I am not and do not claim to be the authority on this.

This is kinda like saying a male audience shouldn’t sing Run the World. At the end I don’t think that would help with spreading and understanding the messages of those songs. You are not supposed to only consume art that speaks about you, that misses the point of empathy and forces everyone to live in an echo chamber of their own opinions. As a gay person I’ve been raised with mostly straight representation in series and movies, that doesn’t mean I can understand the feelings in what is being depicted. You can’t expect every non-black person to stay silent at a Kendrick concert, or every straight non-queer person to not sing along to Sam Smith, imo. 

26 minutes ago, Draper. said:

This is kinda like saying a male audience shouldn’t sing Run the World. At the end I don’t think that would help with spreading and understanding the messages of those songs. You are not supposed to only consume art that speaks about you, that misses the point of empathy and forces everyone to live in an echo chamber of their own opinions. As a gay person I’ve been raised with mostly straight representation in series and movies, that doesn’t mean I can understand the feelings in what is being depicted. You can’t expect every non-black person to stay silent at a Kendrick concert, or every straight non-queer person to not sing along to Sam Smith, imo. 

no no, that's not what I meant at all. I think it's just the first-person nature of some of her lines like "I might be a Black Bill Gates" and "I'm dark brown, dark skin, light skin, beige, fluorescent beige, ***** I'm Black!" that crosses a line for me. I have no problem singing along to her songs otherwise, and even the line prior in Formation "You just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" is totally fine by me. Everyone should celebrate Black excellence and culture, that shouldn't be controversial at all.

 

in the same vein, men singing "Who run the world? Girls" is iconic and a non-issue. 

 

but now that you brought that up, I don't actually have an issue with men singing along to "If I Were a Boy," "Grown Woman" or "I'm That Girl" either lol. I guess the sentiment of those songs feel more universal and general, "that girl" is basically a unisex term among LGBT+ people anyway, and the songs feel like they're more about Beyoncé than about "women" as a group. but yelling "I'm Black!" gives me pause and I don't have trouble understanding why ppl on twitter would say white people shouldn't be singing that part. 

 

tl,dr what I said on the last page:

 

6 hours ago, kimberly said:

I get it if they mean they shouldn't sing along to that one part... but if they mean the whole thing, what even is the rationale?  what's next, married people shouldn't sing Single Ladies? skinny ******* shouldn't sing Thique? not allowed to sing Virgo's Groove if you're not a Virgo?  you don't have to 100% identify with every piece of art you consume or enjoy.

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15 minutes ago, kimberly said:

no no, that's not what I meant at all. I think it's just the first-person nature of some of her lines like "I might be a Black Bill Gates" and "I'm dark brown, dark skin, light skin, beige, fluorescent beige, ***** I'm Black!" that crosses a line for me. I have no problem singing along to her songs otherwise, and even the line prior in Formation "You just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" is totally fine by me. Everyone should celebrate Black excellence and culture, that shouldn't be controversial at all.

 

in the same vein, men singing "Who run the world? Girls" is iconic and a non-issue. 

 

but now that you brought that up, I don't actually have an issue with men singing along to "If I Were a Boy," "Grown Woman" or "I'm That Girl" either lol. I guess the sentiment of those songs feel more universal and general, "that girl" is basically a unisex term among LGBT+ people anyway, and the songs feel like they're more about Beyoncé than about "women" as a group. but yelling "I'm Black!" gives me pause and I don't have trouble understanding why ppl on twitter would say white people shouldn't be singing that part. 

 

tl,dr what I said on the last page:

 

Right right, it’s the same.

 

I feel like there’s nothing culturally wrong in enjoying or singing any type of song or lyric; the problem with the n-word or the f~word is social.

Edited July 14, 20233 yr by Draper.

also this is from today, she was at the Brooklyn Central Library for Jay Z's "Book of HOV" exhibit, opening tomorrow.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Right right, it’s the same.

 

I feel like there’s nothing culturally wrong in enjoying or singing any type of song or lyric; the problem with the n-word or the f~word is social.

I don't think it's "wrong" or offensive (and certainly nowhere near using a slur that doesn't belong to you), and I'm not really in any place to be offended on behalf of Black people, but it's not my personal preference  I'm just giving my perspective on why you won't see me singing along to that part and that's that.

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3 hours ago, yonsé said:

"im dark brown, dark skinned. light skinned. beige. florescent beige. *****, i'm black."

 

i too would shudder if a large swath of white people were screaming this around me.

 

I’m white and screamed ‘b!tch i’m black’ during her Cozy performance. ngl I immediately looked around as if I had done something wrong, but no one cared. 

 

As long as we don’t sing the N word it’s okay, no?

I’m about to be driving across the country the next few days and I just know her ass is going to do something while I’m unable to see and scream with y’all 

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Didn't she perform it in like 2009?

Out of the four times I have seen her live so far, she's only performed it at one show, which was the Destiny Fulfilled and Loving It Tour

You know what word not to say and as long as you respect that why are you thinking so hard about it 

 

Bey has been very black centric for her entire career like it’s just a part of her artistry and who she is

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Heated is on top of Apple Music’s R&B playlist which is on the main page with a Bey picture. They are stanning this song hard

we need Parkwood to wake up and take the hint 

 

21 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Heated is on top of Apple Music’s R&B playlist which is on the main page with a Bey picture. They are stanning this song hard

we need Parkwood to wake up and take the hint 

 

the agenda begins!

 

I'm surprised Heated hasn't taken off tbh. With the tour, I thought it would at least go really viral and actually enter some charts ww and the Hot 100. Maybe now that the tour has started in the US. 

 

Did the kick-off in the US give the album a boost there? 

Edited July 14, 20233 yr by BnPac

10 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

@AxelFox

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saw your pic in that thread and I-

 

Which thread?

1 hour ago, BnPac said:

I'm surprised Heated hasn't taken off tbh. With the tour, I thought it would at least go really viral and actually enter some charts ww and the Hot 100. Maybe now that the tour has started in the US. 

 

Did the kick-off in the US give the album a boost there? 

it did debut on the UK charts when she was touring there, I think in the 90’s.

 

the US is tougher to influence by touring, because the market is so big. Chr*matica didn’t even re-enter the album chart Top 200 when she was touring I don’t think. she needs to actually do something for it to take off, which means it probably won’t happen 

34 minutes ago, kimberly said:

Chr*matica didn’t even re-enter the album chart Top 200 when she was touring I don’t think. she needs to actually do something for it to take off, which means it probably won’t happen 

No shade to miss Gags but that album wasn't much of a success, her other albums probably saw a small boost (BTW, ASIB...). 

Yeah I think if AS and Heated don't take off by themselves, nothing will happen. Although AS already did and nothing happened. She could have had three easy 1B songs this era with no effort from her and very little effort from her team. Oh well... The tour was great. 

 

I just got chills imagining this in HD

 

 It needs to be on Netflix, anything less will be a fumble

 

 

2 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

Heated is on top of Apple Music’s R&B playlist which is on the main page with a Bey picture. They are stanning this song hard

we need Parkwood to wake up and take the hint 

 

Calling Heated Afrobeats inspired is certainly a choice. Especially when it is not (lol) and MOVE is sitting right there. 

 

Otherwise I'd be happy to see it take off, but at this point it would need a remix. No one saw AHAP remix coming so who knows what she has planned. I feel like AS will be the one getting neglected due to her not caring anymore or Act II getting started. 

 

13 hours ago, PrettyHurts said:

This is all true. Beyoncé handling her career as messily as she does is definitely a reaction to the intense hard work and pressure she felt throughout her career. It’s understanding for her on s personal level, even though it’s really frustrating for fans. 
 

all of this makes me think the visuals were scrapped/Indefinitely postponed because she didn’t want pressure to match or exceed expectations set with ST/lemonade/BIK. Visual albums probably started to feel too restrictive for her and she doesn’t want to do the same thing again 

That's the thing that annoys me. She could've dropped BMS video and Cuff It video plus a few others. As much as I love every song having a video it didn't feel as necessary with REN. 5 solid videos that connected would have sufficed. Instead she chose this route and who knows. But like someone else said After July 29 I won't really hope for it anymore.

4 hours ago, kimberly said:

also this is from today, she was at the Brooklyn Central Library for Jay Z's "Book of HOV" exhibit, opening tomorrow.

 

a MET Galaesque ponytail teas oh im UP 

18 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Let's not pretend Bey isn't money hungry.  She's done more promo for Tiffany and Co than she has her album. 

 

At least fans of a certain someone are getting a chance to see her without paying thousands of dollars to fly across the world to Europe or NA.

 

14 hours ago, BnPac said:

Isn’t Bey one of the, if not the most money hungry popstars around? Dubai... Those tickets sales...

Touring is work and something a lot of artists enjoy doing, doing your job is not necessarily money hungry.

She is greedy, a capitalist and all of that. We know. It's just that I feel like she has just stopped going mad over being the #1 in the game, shattering records left and right, being ambitious for more success and so on, which is okay, she clearly wants to enjoy her family. 

9 minutes ago, Pepo said:

 

She is greedy, a capitalist and all of that. We know. It's just that I feel like she has just stopped going mad over being the #1 in the game, shattering records left and right, being ambitious for more success and so on, which is okay, she clearly wants to enjoy her family. 

But she could still give us visuals if they filmed them.

3 hours ago, BnPac said:

I'm surprised Heated hasn't taken off tbh. With the tour, I thought it would at least go really viral and actually enter some charts ww and the Hot 100. Maybe now that the tour has started in the US. 

 

Did the kick-off in the US give the album a boost there? 

It didn’t go viral-viral, but it got a huge boost since it’s been doing almost Break My Soul numbers. It will be the 6th song from the album to cross 100m and probably will surpass Energy.

 

I think it’s time we pressure Columbia into sending it to radios tho. 

12 minutes ago, queenoftheclouds said:

But she could still give us visuals if they filmed them.

They are coming but they’ll come on her terms and on her tempo and time…You need to realize she filmed 16 music videos for a film while having a family. She has chosen to take her sweet time with it to not stress herself out and ya’ll will have to deal!

I’m starting to think she won’t release anything for the anniversary. What’s the point in waiting two more weeks and not doing it three months ago? Why not wait until the tour ends and nobody cares since people already moved on? 

8 hours ago, kimberly said:

I'd love to hear what Black Hive think, if they're willing to share.

 

as a non-Black poc, I never feel comfortable singing along to certain parts of her songs. I am all in to cheer and support the sentiment but I don't want to be shouting "I just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" over people like that, especially since her crowds have plenty of Black folks who can and will sing along and feel empowered by the message in a way that does not apply to me. some of her lines and messages aren't for me, and that's okay. in a way, white / non-Black people participating almost dilutes the impact of those lines, in my opinion. but obviously I am not and do not claim to be the authority on this.

Honestly I don't care what people sing as long as it's not the N word. And I get way more life from all of friends/audience participating then feeling coy about enjoying certain songs/lyrics. Honestly I have no time to police people's relationship with the music