ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 41 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Why use the old Mediabase's chart when it wasn't Billboard's official one? How does that make sense. Because we were talking about Lavender Haze's placement on the Mediabase chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Fox Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Flowers 1 tomorrow Lizzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: Because we were talking about Lavender Haze's placement on the Mediabase chart? Guess I have to draw it for you X chart - unofficial one - chart position not relevant Y chart - official one - placement relevant X chart replaces Y chart meaning it becomes the official one and therefore the relevant one LH's chart placement on Mediabase's chart in 2023 is the official Pop radio peak unlike Telephone's Mediabase placement in 2010. Edited February 16 by Hot Volcano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonerr Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: Surprised its only her 2nd time. I assume Katy has done this the most time during the TD era? Followed by Gaga since she had JD/PF PF/LG LG/PA PA/BR BR/TE TE/AL -> not sure about this one, can somebody check? The chokehold she had on US Pop radio Edited February 16 by doonerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
industry baby Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Ger-55 said: 21 (+3) Special: 3316 (+628) | 12.428 (+1.827) this is ridicilous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
industry baby Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Ger-55 said: 13. Calm Down: 6742 (+70) | 18.995 (+0.420) 14. Escapism.: 6691 (+122) | 20.988 (+0.498) 15. Bloody Mary: 6421 (+96) | 18.374 (+0.401) This 3 going Top10 slowly but surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: Guess I have to draw it for you X chart - unofficial one - chart position not relevant Y chart - official one - placement relevant X chart replaces Y chart meaning it becomes the official one and therefore the relevant one LH's chart placement on Mediabase's chart in 2023 is the official Pop radio peak unlike Telephone's Mediabase placement in 2010. That's not how it works, the Billboard chart isn't the more official one than Mediabase (why would you even think that?), they're completely charts and until recently they consulted completely different stations. Pointless argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger-55 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 OVERALL ** = Incorrect update (song was dropped from or added to a format) 1 (+1) Miley Cyrus - "Flowers" 92.57 (+1.90) 2 (-1) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - "Creepin'" 92.22 (+1.04) 3. The Weeknd - "Die for You" 87.61 (-0.44) 4. David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - "I'm Good (Blue)" 82.21 (-0.55) 5. Sam Smith & Kim Petras - "Unholy" 76.36 (-0.38) 6. Taylor Swift - "Anti-Hero" 70.40 (-0.92) 7. SZA - "Kill Bill" 69.97 (+1.15) 8. Meghan Trainor - "Made You Look" 62.76 (+0.06) 9. Beyoncé - "CUFF IT" 60.57 (-0.02) 10. Kane Brown & Katelyn Brown - "Thank God" 56.55 (+0.31) 11. Harry Styles - "As It Was" 54.65 (+0.01) 12. Chris Brown - "Under the Influence" 54.34 (-0.03) 13. Morgan Wallen - "Thought You Should Know" 47.12 (+0.21) 14. SZA - "Shirt" 41.65 (-0.81) ** 15. Luke Combs - "Going, Going, Gone" 41.38 (+0.30) 16 (+1) Taylor Swift - "Lavender Haze" 41.17 (+0.63) ** 17 (-1) Sia - "Unstoppable" 40.50 (-0.28) 18 (+2) Lil Uzi Vert - "Just Wanna Rock" 39.73 (+0.71) 19 (-1) Post Malone - "I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat]" 39.04 (-0.41) 20 (-1) Drake & 21 Savage - "Rich Flex" 38.64 (-0.58) Glass Animals - "Heat Waves" 36.94 (-0.09) Nicky Youre & dazy - "Sunroof" 36.90 (+0.20) Coi Leray - "Players" 36.23 (+0.75) Nate Smith - "Whiskey on You" 36.10 (-0.57) Lainey Wilson - "Heart Like a Truck" 35.45 (+0.31) JVKE - "golden hour" 32.75 (-0.80) Morgan Wallen - "You Proof" 30.56 (-0.54) Bailey Zimmerman - "Rock and a Hard Place" 31.30 (+0.49) RAYE - "Escapism. (feat. 070 Shake)" 29.23 (+0.67) Lady Gaga - "Bloody Mary" 27.78 (+0.82) Rema & Selena Gomez - "Calm Down" 27.61 (+0.66) SZA - "Nobody Gets Me" 17.54 (-0.07) Lizzo - "Special (feat. SZA)" 16.71 (+2.76) ** Bizarrap & Shakira - "Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53" 15.52 (-0.03) Sabrina Carpenter - "Nonsense" 14.14 (+0.19) Avril Lavigne & YUNGBLUD - "I'm a Mess" 10.58 (-0.01) Linkin Park - "Lost" 10.26 (+1.16) Zach Bryan - "Something in the Orange" 5.79 (+0.04) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusualBoy Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 That Lizzo song serving payola to its maximum Flowers going #1 tomorrow Escapism is so close to top 10, hope it can make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger-55 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 "Flowers" topping the overall chart already is craaazy Congrats to Tay Tay for having 2 songs inside Top 10 at the same time. Lizzo sis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, industry baby said: This 3 going Top10 slowly but surely Only Escapism is going Top 10. The rest will miss it, especially with Special and Love Again coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
industry baby Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, nick4bty said: Only Escapism is going Top 10. The rest will miss it, especially with Special and Love Again coming Never say never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insanity Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Kid Lario serving organic increases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride4jc1222 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I think Escapism is a sure bet to make the Top 10 and Calm Down will either just barely make it or barely miss (it will peak at either 10 or 11). Bloody Mary is going to peak soon at 12 or 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: That's not how it works, the Billboard chart isn't the more official one than Mediabase (why would you even think that?), they're completely charts and until recently they consulted completely different stations. Pointless argument. Gurl this is like someone here using the short-lived Rolling Stones chart instead of the Billboard Hot 100 chart. It's official aswell, but is it relevant? Who uses that chart? Have some common sense, for fucks sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger-55 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Insanity said: Kid Lario serving organic increases Lizzo can't relate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 51 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Gurl this is like someone here using the short-lived Rolling Stones chart instead of the Billboard Hot 100 chart. It's official aswell, but is it relevant? Who uses that chart? Have some common sense, for fucks sake Which chart do we track in this thread? Stick to the topic at hand please, if that's not possible then kindly avoid contaminating the thread with incorrect gloating. Don't bother replying to this, the thread's been derailed enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insanity Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 34 minutes ago, Ger-55 said: Lizzo can't relate atlantic only payolas certain artists lizzo being one lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride4jc1222 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I don't understand why everyone is going after Lizzo, but not SZA, who jumped on the remix to make it popular. SZA is the 'it-girl' this year, and anything she is on is pretty much guaranteed to smash on radio, kind of like Doja Cat last year. I'm pretty sure Special would have flopped worse than 2BL if it was just the original version with Lizzo alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 49 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: I don't understand why everyone is going after Lizzo, but not SZA, who jumped on the remix to make it popular. SZA is the 'it-girl' this year, and anything she is on is pretty much guaranteed to smash on radio, kind of like Doja Cat last year. I'm pretty sure Special would have flopped worse than 2BL if it was just the original version with Lizzo alone. My thoughts, exactly. Besides, a song taking off with speed shouldn't really be considered payola since it's obvious that at that moment in time the label is obviously pushing it hard. It's when it continues to gain at radio despite minimal sales/streaming traction that it should be called out for that, like what happened with Sweetest Pie last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger-55 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: like what happened with Sweetest Pie last year. It had surprisingly very good callouts, which is funny considering Dua was going on a streak with three (3) really panned singles (according to callouts). 3 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said: I don't understand why everyone is going after Lizzo, but not SZA, who jumped on the remix to make it popular. SZA is the 'it-girl' this year, and anything she is on is pretty much guaranteed to smash on radio, kind of like Doja Cat last year. I'm pretty sure Special would have flopped worse than 2BL if it was just the original version with Lizzo alone. SZA doesn't care enough, I mean, you can tell with KB's messy promo campaign. Lizzo obviously used her, lol. Plus, if SZA was really pushing her songs, NGM wouldn't be stalling the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ger-55 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 POP 1 (+1) Flowers: 16998 (+216) | 57.407 (+0.899) 2 (-1) Die for You: 16809 (-171) | 54.889 (-0.515) 3. Creepin': 16512 (+145) | 57.248 (+0.419) 4. Unholy: 15537 (-39) | 48.929 (-0.238) 5. I'm Good (Blue): 14115 (-135) | 46.996 (-0.429) 6. Made You Look: 12519 (-96) | 34.089 (-0.440) 7. Kill Bill: 11506 (+110) | 40.409 (+0.379) 8. CUFF IT: 10406 (+3) | 32.676 (-0.110) 9. Anti-Hero 9660 (-179) | 29.100 (-0.610) 10. Lavender Haze: 9279 (+83) | 28.089 (+0.261) 11. golden hour: 8632 (-336) | 23.134 (-1.424) 12 (+1) Calm Down: 6865 (+123) | 19.436 (+0.441) 13 (+1) Escapism.: 6861 (+170) | 21.523 (+0.535) 14 (-2) Under the Influence: 6840 (+57) | 18.606 (+0.279) 15. Bloody Mary: 6493 (+72) | 18.548 (+0.174) 16. Nobody Gets Me: 5022 (+87) | 12.057 (+0.243) 17. Nonsense: 4554 (+74) | 13.240 (+0.176) 18 (+3) Special: 3849 (+533) | 13.204 (+0.776) 19 (-1) 10:35: 3819 (+89) | 8.034 (+0.158) 20. Players: 3582 (+184) | 9.583 (+0.826) 21 (-1) Never Gonna Not Dance Again: 3463 (-189) | 6.411 (-0.411) 22. Love Again: 3333 (+197) | 7.050 (+0.413) 23. Thank God: 3103 (+103) | 7.356 (+0.143) 24. I'm Not Here to Make Friends: 2908 (+81) | 7.005 (+0.059) 25 (+2) Sunshine: 1977 (+40) | 5.439 (+0.047) 26 (-1) I'm a Mess: 1951 (-106) | 2.788 (-0.130) 27 (-1) Miss You: 1904 (-48) | 2.622 (-0.058) 28. One Night Stand: 1896 (+33) | 4.361 (-0.063) 29. Sex, Drugs, Etc.: 1700 (-68) | 2.752 (-0.104) 30. Red Flags: 1452 (+36) | 1.775 (+0.090) 31. Just Wanna Rock: 1329 (+49) | 2.264 (+0.136) 34. Rich Flex: 700 (+3) | 1.408 (+0.002) 35. Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53: 647 (+12) | 1.365 (-0.118) 39 (+1) Sure Thing: 408 (+60) | 2.165 (+0.297) 41. Love From the Other Side: 363 (+18) | 0.866 (+0.035) 42 (+2) Boy's a liar: 313 (+73) | 1.408 (+0.350) 45 (+1) Last Night: 246 (+58) | 0.588 (+0.146) 49 (-1) Ditto: 151 (-3) | 0.555 (-0.016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 12 minutes ago, Ger-55 said: 18 (+3) Special: 3849 (+533) | 13.204 (+0.776) What are these updates? This song ain't no Flowers to get spincreases like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Fox Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 10 minutes ago, Hurem said: What are these updates? This song ain't no Flowers to get spincreases like this I hope the rolling effect will destroy the song because its not the first time Lizzo has been pushed to death on radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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