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I do agree that Olivia and Sabrina cater to a younger audience, and Ariana's music doesn't cater to that demo much anymore. However ES was just two years ago and that did more on-demand streams than MBF (185k) and ES wasn't targeting the kid/young teen demo then either. TUN streaming numbers will never be topped though, not even Olivia nor Sabrina (never came close) have done 307m on-demand streams in a single week. Olivia came close with SOUR but didn't surpass. Yeah I agree, doing this sound and aesthetic was a bold move for a peak Summer release lmao. Visuals were in the same realm as the ES visuals too, which is very much not a Summer album.

Sure but ES deluxe would be 98k streaming units and that was just the year old OG album streams and six new tracks. Released just last year. Considering her first day streams were on par with ES it shows her audience is still there, they just didn't like the music. She can do much better if the music resonated.

TheGrandeTop10 who tracks her sales says HDD is underestimating her pure sales. It should be 170k+. It's going to be close to 300k, could go either way. Unless Billboard filtered her units more than usual which would be weird but possible ig. So annoying how streaming let her down when she finally got her s*** together with pure sales. Can't win. But damn her streaming really collapsed throughout the week, after first day streams it was projected ~160k and that was conservative. This album is very polarizing. 126k streaming units is a significant underperformance for her. It's doing Sweetener on demand streams and that album was released 8 years ago, those numbers were huge at the time but in 2026 not so much (for her standards). Streaming units with this current formula: TUN: 307k ES: 195k Positions: 173k Sweetener: 127k Petal: 126k

Her team just never prioritized pure sales until now. Never even did tour bundles in the 2010s when they were allowed which was an easy way to boost physical sales. Imagine it TUN had a tour bundle. Would have opened 500k+. So many missed opportunities by her team in the past. She more than doubled ES pure just by putting in effort this time. At least now we know she can sell physicals so her next album will have a similar push. And if she follows the Sweetener - TUN - Positions - ES - Petal pattern her next album will be a long term streaming smash lmao.

The irony that streaming let her down and pure sales are strong

welcome back Positions lmao. Hopefully this album finds its legs like Positions did.

Wicked as an Anglosphere phenomenon. It didn't make noise in non-English speaking countries. Petal is her first album she had a coordinated pure sales push for which is showing in these higher debuts in countries like France and Germany. It's hard to debut #1 on the album chart there as an international artist with mostly streams.

Agreed. It's a Positions rehash but not as good as anything on Positions. like i do is a TUN rehash but it's a good rehash at least. I think she is doing that to appease the fans. I wish she didn't have to but some of the fans are insufferable with wanting "the old Ari back" and she's throwing them a bone.

They should be concerned about their IQ

Tate is by far the more skilled and technical dancer. She's highly trained and been a professional working dancer since childhood. However, Britney is the better performer. Britney feels the movement and it's visible in her performance. Tate looks like she's hitting marks, extremely well executed but not rooted in any artistry or feeling. Tate has some moments of this like the Sports Car performance on SNL, her Billboard awards performance of Greedy, and the music video for Revolving Door.

like i do is a shameless TUN rehash but it's so good idc improved version of dandelion

I know, thats kinda the problem lol. The best artists know when to evolve and push themselves creatively. Working with the same collaborators all the time is a set up for things to become redundant. At some point all ideas become exhausted and you're just going through the motions. Nobody evolves stuck in their comfort zone. This same thing is happening to Taylor, The Weeknd, Harry Styles and the worst of all Bruno Mars lmao. All the big 2010s artists are kinda at a creative crossroads right now with needing to evolve their artistry again. There are quite a few interesting ideas on Petal but they aren't fully fleshed out. Having 1-2 new collaborators would help with that. She did push herself working with Pharrell though. She changed her process and that was the most significant shift in her artistry for the better. She would have Katy Perry-ed herself if she didn't decide to take herself out of comfort zone during that time.

About to have her biggest pure sales week ever but her worst streaming week ever (since streaming became dominant). She can't ever win omg. ES needed this sales push. If she had ES streaming units and Petal pure sales she would surpass TUN debut (360k).

Nothing is more frustrating that's she's about to have her biggest pure sales week ever when she's going to have her worst streaming week since streaming became dominant. Sweetener did 126m on-demand streams in 2018 and Petal is going to be around that. Positions looks like a giant smash in comparison, would be 174k in streaming units today. If only ES has this huge sales push. I really like the album but this is probably a sign she needs to switch it up next time. If she wants the arts not charts she needs to commit. Max and Ilya are charts not arts. She didn't commit to either side and neither won lol.

I've been saying they've been setting up Ariana to be Britney's replacement as the public's punching bag for a while. Now that Britney is retired they went full-force into dogpiling on Ariana. They so badly want their tragic child star story for entertainment. They are manifesting her premature death so they can say "gotcha!" It's absolutely deranged how this is normalized. But Ariana suffering from an ED is a moral crisis? Check on the children!!! Pot meet kettle. Obviously not speaking about the actual concern but that isn't dominating the conversation at all. I've about had it with the moralizing from this side of the internet. It's gotten completely out of hand that it's basically the same mindset as conservative brain rot. It's uniquely used to target women specially too. Adult women with adult fan bases that make content for adults are supposed to alter their behavior for children's eyes but men don't have that burden. Same thing they did to Britney. An age old misogynistic perspective that has yet to die. And some of y'all participate in it.