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Viewing Topic: All 3 singles from YSPSFAGSIL are outpacing Manchild. Surprised?
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Ariana Grande - 'petal'
It's very annoying how an obnoxious vocal minority on the internet are responsible for setting the narrative. HTIMYLM is a hit, but the narrative surrounding it you would think the majority are disappointed while that is not the case. This is her best performing single in the US since Positions and the GP prefer her moody mid-tempos. Ironically same thing happened to Positions. These people need to be filtered out from the fanbase, they are obviously not her target audience anymore and they set her up every time.
- HTIMYLM - #1 on Spotify Global ; #4 on Apple Music Global: what went right?
- Why do u think so many people left ATRL?
- Ariana Grande performs with a Rat on stage
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Ariana Grande - 'petal'
Sweetener is pretty left of center for a mainstream pop release, especially in 2018. Originally Sweetener had fewer Max Martin tracks, it was mostly her work with Pharrell. GIAW, for example, was a last minute addition. Her work with Tommy Brown was also added at the end (goodnight n go, better off, pete davidson). If Ariana had it her way it would have been just her and Pharrell, but at that time in her career she couldn't completely abandon her mainstream pop appeal completely. She probably wants to get weirder but the fanbase has to be on board and some of them are stuck in 2016.
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Ariana Grande - "hate that i made you love me"
US Apple Music (Day 32) HTIMYLM: #12 yes, and?: N/A yes, and? tankery was really something else. That was the first and last time she took Frankie's advice on a lead single choice lmao
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Variety proclaims YSPSFAGSIL as the AOTY frontrunner. Do you agree?
Olivia Dean is more their style and that's who is likely winning. Olivia Rodrigo although acclaimed and well-liked, is still a young pop star that appeals to mostly young women. I don't agree with that perspective at all and I greatly prefer Olivia Rodrigo's album over Olivia Dean's watered down pop-soul but Grammys don't think that way.
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Spotify Global #1: Lowest streams in 4 years
Major established artists are catering to their specific niches because the only way to get mass exposure with the GP in the attention economy with singles is being a discovery (new artist hype aka Sabrina and Chappell having a big moment in 2024), viral TikTok song, or past hits from the monoculture reviving due to nostalgia. That's why the album format is what established artists are focusing on. Olivia only sent her lead single to radio is a consequence of singles having less importance for sustained longevity as an artist. I mean look at Dua, huge singles artist but that's a slippery slope to depend on once the novelty of being new artist wears off hence RO underperformance as an album. We won't have another 2024 until a new artist discovery happens in a big way that collides with a bunch of major artists releasing albums. We talk about 2024 hits but most of them were from new or breakthrough artists (Sabrina, Chappell, Gracie, Benson Boone, etc). Billie had Birds but that's an outlier and no shade but the autoplay feature was abused even though Birds was a big hit regardless. Taylor, Beyoncé, Ariana all had hits in 2024 but they weren't touching their monocultural hits from past eras.
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Ariana Grande - "hate that i made you love me"
Not bad for a Sunday update. Those versions released on streaming was peak stupidity from her team though. They don't contribute any additional streams and damages the song's performance on the algorithm which is important for exposure. They should know how the algorithm operates by now, such a negligent move by her team. LMH is just waiting for an huge revival. If Ariana and Abel don't link up and perform it live at either one of their shows in London it could be one of the biggest missed opportunities of this tour.
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Retail or Fast Food: Worst entry-level job?
Retails drags and you need to be on the sales floor all the time pretending like you care. The tasks are redundant and customers suck worse than fast food for sure. Fast food shift goes by faster bc you're busy and you aren't as micromanaged if you aren't an idiot. Fast food can get tips too depending where you work. I have ADHD so retail was hell for me, so boring and I didn't care about sales or pushing sales. Both are miserable though.
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One month later: is "hate that i made you love me" a hit?
In the US sure, globally no it's not. It has no relevance outside of the Anglosphere.
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One month later: is "hate that i made you love me" a hit?
Absolutely! Back to #1 on Global Spotify after a month! Longest running #1 female song of the year so far (11 days). Second longest running song released this year in general behind Swim by BTS (25 days). Olivia's stupid song did 10 days at #1. Everyone else is in the trenches with new releases this year.
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Ariana Grande - 'petal'
Yall are underestimating her and aren't paying attention to how the market and strategies have changed just this past year. ES didn't have multiple vinyl variants only 1 single vinyl variant. ES had multiple covers which does nothing to push pure sales if it's the same vinyl variant. The only fanbase to mass buy multiple covers of the same vinyl variant are the Swifties and they're deranged. Petal has 8 vinyl variants so far. Her SEA should be 200k+ as long as the album doesn't suck and is well received. ES would have 200k with SEA units alone under this new formula. Olivia increased her pure over 100k from GUTS due to pushing more variants. Sabrina also increased her pure sales 40k from SnS to MBF bc of variants. SnS was in a chart battle with Travis Scott so she did multiple digital variants release week to push for #1, without that the pure sales increase between SnS and MBF would be higher. Ariana's only albums to be released under this variant trend was ES. ES rollout was botched and her team was stuck in another era, tbh it's a feat it managed to do 227k after the botched rollout. She seems to have fixed that issue. Using her pure sales from her other albums is irrelevant. It was a completely different time and pure sales were dead for everyone unless they did tour bundles. TUN would have opened 450k+ minimum under the new SEA rules and if pushing multiple variants existed back then. She didn't even do a tour bundle for TUN and it still managed 112k pure when pure sales were essentially dead. Ariana should aim for 100k+ pure and 200k+ SEA. 300k+ and could go higher if it has glowing reception and positive WOM. Debuting ~250k is actually an underperformance from ES. ES under new rules is 277k and that's with the botched rollout and terrible marketing strategy. I get managing expectations but 300k is more than manageable lol. All she has to do is have her streaming remain stable and increase her pure sales 30k from ES. That is very doable with multiple variants. If she can't manage that she has a problem.
- Max Martin sells catalogue
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Ariana Grande - "hate that i made you love me"
Yes, stupid song dropped 230k and HTIMYLM gained 4k.