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Absolutely not. Maybe Katy Perry's should be compared to Taylor's or something.

Umm ... she did mention Whitney's and Mariah's names first in that very interview, right above the part you selected.

Except we have actual receipts for Madonna who couldn't contain her feelings.

Any non-fan can see through Madonna was turning green with envy. She started it FIRST out of the blue. That would make her the loser, not Mariah, who has always been professional and never uttered the other one's name.

Imagine saying this in a POP forum. Dumb. She was just jealous and bitter that more talented and younger girls were stomping grounds while she was flopping.

Lol Madonna was jealous of Mariah and Whitney to a point she started making jealous comments about them WITHOUT BEING ASKED. Spin Magazine interview Spin: Are you dissapointed that Time Warner jettisoned Interscope? Shouldn't a company whose main product is artistic expression stand up for its artists? Madonna: [Sighs] I've had several discussions with [Warner Music Group CEO] Michael Fuchs and said, look, I'm not a big fan of music that's degrading to women or that promotes violence. I am offended by these things too. I'm offended by a movie like Showgirls. I still don't think that the way to remedy the situation is to go around telling everybody what they can and can't do. I think Time Warner, or any of these big. corporate conglomerate entities, should encourage work that is morally uplifting. that counteracts all [the negative sluff]. I think when you're fed a steady diet of crap, you come to expect it after a while. But art is not really a very important part of our culture any more. I was talking to k.d. lang about it last night. I don't want to get into slagging off other artists, but we were talking about her record versus someone like Mariah Carey's — and I think she's a very talented singer — but we have to realize that the same country that acquitted O.J. is the same country that makes a complete piece of **** movie No.1, that buys Marian Carey records. It's this homogeneity. But it's got nothing to do with art. From her 1995 NME interview "pop is short for popular and to remain popular you can't have a point of view or be outspoken. To remain popular you can't go against the grain. Janis Joplin, at this time, in this world would not be a popular artist. Chrissie Hynde does not sell as many records as somebody like Mariah Carey. And that's because Manah Carey and Whitney Houston don't have a f**ing point of view." NME- Whitney had one about you, didn't she – she said that she'd kill her children if they turned out like you. Madonna arches her brows coolly. "I've never heard either of them say anything horrible about me. But if they have, it's completely transparent why. It would be based on jealousy of the fact that I have a point of view. I think that its an artist's responsibility to have a point of view. Society takes its cue from popular art. People need something to look to, Mariah retaliated cleverly and that got Madonna's fans pressed. The infamous 'Id rather kill myself ' wasn't the only thing Madonna said about Mariah. And so much for being 'outspoken' when she had to work with Babyface, taking a leaf out of Mariah's book for damage control. Anyone remembers her Whitney and Sharon Stone letter? Lol.

It's 'We Belong Together'.

It's not like they are dragging 'Somewhere over the rainbow'.

Reminds me of when Mariah Carey's "Glitter" got very poor reviews, except that was a very solid album.

The opening violins in Patient Zero sounds so disconnected to the chorous, like how come the producers didn't notice it before releasing? And the spoken bridge has become too repetitive at this point. She has let down her fans again, but I guess the hardcore ones will still support her regardless.

Here for it all (song) is among her best. It embodies her skills as a melodist and lyricist. Heartfelt lyrics indeed. No pretentious stuff.

So this is what she got for being soo good in the past?

No. Most people don't even know it.

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It was a crime that the album underperformed and critics were doing the most to hate on her. I would have quit if something I put all my efforts to (think about the music, the VOCALS, the lyrics, the production) flopped. Mariah is a warrior.

Instantly hooked.

HFIA is still a very good album.

Reducing an explicit racist celebration to 'football culture' is not gonna do it.

This is so scary

This thread has this many pages and I don't remember it. lol.

Ronaldo of course. His popularity is multigenerational.

Without ABBA, there wouldn't be pop music as we know it today.

Ugh, I really feel sorry for all the things that happened to Venezuelan people. I am from Myanmar and I think a lot of people living in developed countries with a relatively stable politics don't understand what it is like to live in a country in shambles that is further attacked by natural disasters. When the coup happened and civil war broke out in Myanmar, the third wave of COVID struck the country and caused thousands of deaths. We thought things couldn't get worse. And then the 7.7M earthquake happened in 2025. The aftermath was devastating to say the least. The difference between countries like Japan and Myanmar/Venezuela is a lot, like a lot. Corruption ran deep hence we have poor quality buildings. They are reduced to pebbles after earthquakes. When it happened in Mandalay, we couldn't rescue those victims under the debris although we heard them calling out for help. Think about it! Help was not really affective. And then we have the inflation rate of 25% and above. We feel you Venezuela although we can't do much.

In one video, I saw 'stacks' of concrete, which was an apartment building before the quake. There's no way the people in there survived. As someone living in a low quality building myself, we're living with fear.