Da Vinci

Aww, here's your cookie

Reminder that aside from being a POS abuser, wife beater and child beater, he's also a pedo who dated minors when he was in his mid twenties

Always posting the numbers and success and praises of their fave OR the drags or flops of other fanbases' faves but never posting any opinions about the actual content and work of their fave and it's like... huh

Is this the part where we're supposed to care about that breakup as if that MAGA girl is some noteworthy "celebrity" and not a faceless industry plant

I don't have a "fave" but this is my fave song about fame or money, a timeless bop

I don't think she's MAGA, or at least I hope so, but it's just kinda disheartening that she used to be so vocal about being anti-MAGA up until Trump won then it's just crickets from her. Just that complete switch. Then you have that ICE contractor at her wedding.

I feel nauseous just reading descriptions of it in this thread I hope the children are safe, they don't deserve this

It actually just hit me like why was Ariana in that donut shop in the first place back in 2015 if she was just gonna spew vitriol and disgust the moment she sees them laid out in front of her and be like "I hate this, so fat, I hate America" I fear it's been going on for far longer than anyone thinks, maybe even during the Nickelodeon days that the petal video might be referencing

Madonna was already a fully grown woman with a developed frontal lobe and a more formed personality when she achieved fame at 25 unlike Taylor, Ariana, etc. who were literal children below 18 years old when they achieved theirs. And even then, not everyone has the same personality or mental fortitude. To add to that, social media wasn't around then and she wasn't required to promote on social media or engage with fans on social media which is a very different thing from controlled fan interactions in the 80s and 90s. Mental health was not widely accepted and talked about in those times and I'm sure artists back then would've been a lot more open about their struggles in a similar way current stars are doing it if the public wouldn't ostracize them or call them "crazy" at the time. People are more parasocial now precisely cause of the false "intimacy" and accessibility social media gives the GP with stars. Generally, the bulk of criticism Madonna got was about her work. The "outrageous" performances, the sexiness, the controversial music videos, and so on. If anything, it benefitted her and she lived for it and she should cause look at how she changed culture. But she could step out of the Madonna public persona at home and the haters would be left at the door. Stars today literally get dragged and scrutinized for a mere follow or unfollow. People now get PERSONAL personal. Madonna is strong, respectable, and impressive, yes. But she's the exception, not the rule. Expecting every pop star, especially female ones who get a lot more scrutinized and hated unlike male counterparts, to follow her example would be unfair. Why aren't there threads or discussions about MALE pop stars whining about fame vs older male stars?

Not actively but I've stanned a foreign song (which was a streaming hit) that I had no idea was AI until I read about it in the news. I gradually lost interest in the song anyway but it's scary how it's become hard to detect.

TikTok would still be what it is today but its rise would've been more gradual and slower. But yeah idk where Taylor would be right now but her re-recordings would still be successful even without folklore. Honestly I think things would still be pretty much the same? Covid just accelerated whatever was already simmering in 2019. What's more interesting is what the movie and blockbuster landscape would have been because that required actual physical presence and habits that Covid disrupted unlike music streaming. The Way of Water or No Way Home would have probably outgrossed Avatar 1 worldwide or The Force Awakens domestic, respectively. We would have had more $2B grossers like Barbie perhaps. Things like Encanto would have reached $700M-1B. Though oversaturation from Disney+ shows and bad quality would've still made the MCU decline and people still would have checked out after Endgame cause they leaned too much into the finale factor and made the GP think the MCU itself is finished except for Spider-Man and a few other A-List Infinity Saga heroes still alive.

I hate this possibility but thinking about her and Cynthia's constant emotional interviews during the Wicked movies suddenly click when applying this context (which makes all the bullying towards them at the time even more evil and insidious than it already was). I also remember Chadwick Boseman. I really don't want to speculate anymore but it's now gotten to the point where I can't watch her MVs and performances anymore cause it's so alarming. Like the stans just want all of us to just smile and nod but how are we supposed to react to seeing her? I also hate the "eat a cheeseburger" and "skeleton" comments and hate obviously. I guess I'll just have to avoid her new videos and performances from now on and trust that she and her inner circle are working on her recovery bts?

I like 6 of the 12 tracks, including HTIMYLM The others feel a bit like filler, but still pleasant enough, just not for me I'd love more of the rock/alternative sound she's trying out Also petal (single) will be a hit, it's so catchy