10 minutes ago, Supervillain said:

H2H doesn't feel like a SM group. They're so cheap and nugu'd  

exactly

 

but then again I'm the Villain for dragging them

 

1 hour ago, MusicFan98 said:

What's there to sing in their songs lol, they were mediocre vocalists like, below Jihyo, Rose, Jisoo, or Nayeon level, whatever dancers, their music was appealing but there was nothing outstanding about them sans the music and their distinctive choreo.

Hanni is an exceptional dancer and at least clears Jisoo vocally (not sure about Nayeon but I'm sure that's arguable) 

2 hours ago, OrbitNumber1 said:

 

HOLY **** 

 I always rooted for them. Is it like magneta-based thing? Magneta was pretty big on twitch. 

25 minutes ago, DelRey said:

Riize and Dream don't belong in the same sentence tho

 

Haechan, Chenle and Renjun are good vocalists, Riize only have Sohee.

 

 

Sohee is technically more skilled than all three, and Wonbin is probably around Chenle's level anyway. Haechan, Chenle, and Renjun are considered technically weak because they don't support (though Haechan tries). Personally, I love Chenle's voice the most of all the Dreamies because his tone, different approaches in delivery, and melismas eat!

 

 

Why is it so difficult to understand some people might find more enjoyable performance centric groups or viceversa (I mean, groups with standout vocals) I myself don't give a **** about outstanding vocals and rather enjoy groups that might be more charismatic on stage but have worse vocals while other people can prefer the opposite

 

Edited June 19, 20251 yr by Darkling

 

 

Well tbf the nugu aesthetics started with SNSD with Heehee's artistic direction but most of this companies fails to understand on creating GGs from time to time

 

 

you gotta have this 1:15 

 

the way a song from like 2 decades ago still sounds fresh and full  

 

 

 

 

if a group doesn't have good music then why do they exist

 

Just now, Save-Me-Oprah said:

if a group doesn't have good music then why do they exist

 

Music is subjective

 

SM needs to do it like The Grace again!

 

Those girls were serving visuals, dancing hard hitting every move right, yet still their vocals were loud and LIVE and on-key.

SM wasted them so bad

 

 

22 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

exactly

 

but then again I'm the Villain for dragging them

 

you're the villain because you were dragging them when they debuted with something GOOD. However, you're excused for this comeback as it is indeed generic riize'd slop 

7 minutes ago, Zack said:

SM needs to do it like The Grace again!

 

Those girls were serving visuals, dancing hard hitting every move right, yet still their vocals were loud and LIVE and on-key.

SM wasted them so bad

 

 

We have Aespa for this, which they will never do because the idol machine is at peak refinement. No organic moments allowed!

 

Yayyy, a digital single..

15 minutes ago, Darkling said:

Music is subjective

 

sometimes it's just obvious

 

Hopefully it's a pre-release and she's gonna do another full album  Poor girl got the YG treatment the worst out of anyone 

7 minutes ago, godmess said:

We have Aespa for this, which they will never do because the idol machine is at peak refinement. No organic moments allowed!

aespa is capable of it, but SM likes to gatekeep a lot of their abilities. The fact that the "they can't sing, they always lipsync" false narrative was allowed to run for as long as it did in the early days is proof of that. Of course they proved that all wrong at Coachella, but that was over a year after debut.

 

I don't have preferences when It comes to talent. The group can have great vocals, great dancers and/or great rappers, as long as the music is clicking, I'm in 

 

30 minutes ago, JonginBey said:

Sohee is technically more skilled than all three, and Wonbin is probably around Chenle's level anyway. Haechan, Chenle, and Renjun are considered technically weak because they don't support (though Haechan tries). Personally, I love Chenle's voice the most of all the Dreamies because his tone, different approaches in delivery, and melismas eat!

 

 

No, he isn't. Imo, Wonbin's range is very limited, I'm not an expert, so I might be wrong about that.
I agree about Sohee and Chenle. 

Seunghan's new project seems pretty free and organic… going live while learning choreo to new songs, while doing photoshoots, in the makeup chair, etc.

 

stuff you wouldn't normally see from other projects which are ultra secretive until the whole thing is presented as a perfectly manufactured final product 

 

8 minutes ago, Ruby said:

Hopefully it's a pre-release and she's gonna do another full album  Poor girl got the YG treatment the worst out of anyone 

She has a full album?

he is so powerful

 

7 minutes ago, Zack said:

aespa is capable of it, but SM likes to gatekeep a lot of their abilities. The fact that the "they can't sing, they always lipsync" false narrative was allowed to run for as long as it did in the early days is proof of that. Of course they proved that all wrong at Coachella, but that was over a year after debut.

 

and when they don't

 

 

 

they always sounds heaven when they actually got to sing live 

 

 

They are so cute

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Seunghan's new project seems pretty free and organic… going live while learning choreo to new songs, while doing photoshoots, in the makeup chair, etc.

 

stuff you wouldn't normally see from other projects which are ultra secretive until the whole thing is presented as a perfectly manufactured final product 

 

You should enjoy while you can, cause we probably won't see much of him after his official debut.

 

 

 

why it's always Yoonchae? they're lowkey serving Temptation of Wife kdrama meets Marimar here 

 

Imma need to go back watching either old school kdramas or telenovelas just for the kiis