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Dua is underperforming. What now?

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  • True. We are still waiting for Houdini to smash 

  • suburbannature
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    Aren’t her songs always slow to pick up and then atrl ends up looking dumb 

  • Do people really think Houdini and Training Season are "art"? They're more quick lil Zara bops, just not as good as her previous singles.

"global smash", "we shouldn't care about US or UK".

 

Welp babes, those are the markets where the money is and that matter the most for western artists. No1 curry about a good Spotify ranking in Saudi Arabia, Slovenia, The Philippines or Lithuania. 

We need to wait 12 months before dragging Dua's songs as flop. In 2025 you can make this thread and drag it. Until that we have to wait the songs accumulate 500m audience on radio and 1B playlist reach.

TS is very mid im surprised her label allowed her to release it 

32 minutes ago, stupidjock said:

 

 

These songs are still kinda FN/disco but are trying too hard to be something different and ending up sounding like nothing

This.

The songs are not bad but they dont have a HIT factor in them.

The themes for these songs aren't relatable for GP

 

Imagine Kelly Clarkson singing lyrics of Training Season in accustic version 20 years from now to soccer moms on KC show. It doesn't work. Dua needs timeless, relatable and likeable lyrics. Even the song title "Training Season" is weird for a pop song, doesn't sound appealing. Dua needs her "Flowers"!

 

I think one thing that also is doing her a disservice is that Dance the Night was so recent and did pretty well and it doesn’t feel like she’s been gone from music. 

Let's wait until September. Dua's music is like Kimchi, her music needs some time to be fermented for the GP.

I mean did you really expect this era to perform better or even the same as Future Nostalgia with the producers at the helm? Like, be serious. Look at their track record. Kevin Parker did Perfect Illusion :rip: (Tame Impala has like 1 song above 1b streams and the rest under 500M) & Danny L Harle mostly did hyperpop & niche music - and worked with artists like Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen & Caroline Polachek :skull:. This era is clearly for the arts. If she wanted this era to perform better than FN, she would’ve released the music she worked on with Koz, Jason Evigan & Ian Kirkpatrick (they did most of her big hits: Levitating, DSN, New Rules, IDGAF, Physical, Love Again). But she scrapped almost all of those sessions (she probably only kept like 1 Ian Kirkpatrick song).

she was always gonna fall off despite serving bops purely because she is not interesting at all. 

17 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

This era is clearly for the arts.

are the arts in the room with us? 

Nothing 

her fans were delusional for getting cocky and thinking she was gonna last 

 

she was always going to be the new Katy Perry without the #1s 

 

Dua Lipa is one of those popstars who is easily replaceable 

:giraffe:

25 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

I mean did you really expect this era to perform better or even the same as Future Nostalgia with the producers at the helm? Like, be serious. Look at their track record. Kevin Parker did Perfect Illusion :rip: (Tame Impala has like 1 song above 1b streams and the rest under 500M) & Danny L Harle mostly did hyperpop & niche music - and worked with artists like Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen & Caroline Polachek :skull:. This era is clearly for the arts. If she wanted this era to perform better than FN, she would’ve released the music she worked on with Koz, Jason Evigan & Ian Kirkpatrick (they did most of her big hits: Levitating, DSN, New Rules, IDGAF, Physical, Love Again). But she scrapped almost all of those sessions (she probably only kept like 1 Ian Kirkpatrick song).

 

Wait, really?? Dua sis....

 

1 hour ago, suburbannature said:

Aren’t her songs always slow to pick up and then atrl ends up looking dumb 

Well houdini pulled a houdini on the charts 

31 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

I mean did you really expect this era to perform better or even the same as Future Nostalgia with the producers at the helm? Like, be serious. Look at their track record. Kevin Parker did Perfect Illusion :rip: (Tame Impala has like 1 song above 1b streams and the rest under 500M) & Danny L Harle mostly did hyperpop & niche music - and worked with artists like Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen & Caroline Polachek :skull:. This era is clearly for the arts. If she wanted this era to perform better than FN, she would’ve released the music she worked on with Koz, Jason Evigan & Ian Kirkpatrick (they did most of her big hits: Levitating, DSN, New Rules, IDGAF, Physical, Love Again). But she scrapped almost all of those sessions (she probably only kept like 1 Ian Kirkpatrick song).

While you are correct, the label is treating this release like a big mainstream pop record with music videos (TS reshoot was low budget but still…), promo slots on late night and an expensive performance at the Grammys, TTH placements etc. so if she wanted an arts not charts release, the budget should have been adjusted accordingly. People at her label are clearly expecting the same success as Future Nostalgia, which isn’t good for her from a pure business standpoint 

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1 hour ago, suburbannature said:

Aren’t her songs always slow to pick up and then atrl ends up looking dumb 

Yes

 

And shes doing fine anyway a Saturday drop is expected lol

She is suffering the SOUR-GUTS syndrome without the no. 1 of course

Honestly? Focus back on Houdini, it's held up better (and will probably hold up better) than Training Season.

 

They really bungled this by not dropping Training Season on Feb 2nd before the Grammys-- she could've definitely gotten more GP interest that way :rip:

I don't get why if her team was so keen on replicating the FN rollout, how did they forget that to replicate the Levitating Grammy boost the song had to be available to stream...

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