We hear a lot of talk of flops and bombs on atrl but I think being specific about what a flop is vs. what a bomb is might help us understand each other better. 

 

To me, flop is bad but not as bad as a BOMB. Like it might be an album that has some acclaim but tanks commercially. But can something flop and bomb? What's the difference?

 

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by besaid

who cares

A flop would be something like EMOTION then - critical acclaim but flopped commercially

 

A bomb would be something like Robin Thicke's Paula - critically panned AND a commercial bomb.

Let's ask the Fighters

2 minutes ago, besaid said:

But can something flop and bomb?

A flop is Legend X  Bionic, a bomb is Nelly Furtado The Spirit Indestructible. 

2 minutes ago, HausOfGerard said:

who cares

you because you replied instantly 

 

3 minutes ago, besaid said:

you because you replied instantly 

 

and?

 

 

6 minutes ago, HausOfPunk said:

Let's ask the Monsters

 

1 minute ago, HausOfGerard said:

and?

 

 

Lol you’ve been ratioed

I feel like Flopping is underperforming for your standards. Flopping is more specific. Like If an alt pop girl usually does 100k debut numbers then it would be good for her if she debuted with that but it would be a flop by MPG standards. Now bombing is universal. Its like an album or song serving out-out. Or maybe charting top 70 then falling off.  

9 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

A flop is Legend X  Bionic, a bomb is Nelly Furtado The Spirit Indestructible. 

This feels legit. Bionic was a flop but is warmly remembered. To me a bomb would be something like Britney's Glory or Lotus - both bombing commercially and being panned and forgotten. 

4 minutes ago, rigo said:

Lol you’ve been ratioed

wrong platform, dingbat

 

 

1 minute ago, Helios said:

I feel like Flopping is underperforming for your standards. Flopping is more specific. Like If an alt pop girl usually does 100k debut numbers then it would be good for her if she debuted with that but it would be a flop by MPG standards. Now bombing is universal. It’s like an album or song serving out-out. Or maybe charting top 70 then falling off.  

this  

 

 

i would also make underperforming its own category above flopping, which in most cases means barely staying consistent but it still being successful imo

 

there’s a possibility of bouncing back from a flop but a bomb is usually (mainstream) career-ending

BOMB is flop of the flops

 

As an example- Artpop flopped, Lotus bombed.  

Flop = underperformance, ala ARTPOP

Bomb = tanking, ala Liberation? Idk

2 minutes ago, besaid said:

This feels legit. Bionic was a flop but is warmly remembered. To me a bomb would be something like Britney's Glory or Lotus - both bombing commercially and being panned and forgotten. 

Glory wasn't really panned at all 

2 minutes ago, simplywohoo said:

Glory wasn't really panned at all 

This is partly true. It's not as panned as some other bombs but it's chart run is terrible and it's definitely a commercial flop and not remembered. 

 

Britney Jean might fit the bomb standard more due to the more universal panning on top of the rest.

Ciara’s Fantasy Ride was a flop. Ciara’s Beauty Marks was a bomb.

4 minutes ago, besaid said:

This is partly true. It's not as panned as some other bombs but it's chart run is terrible and it's definitely a commercial flop and not remembered. 

 

Britney Jean might fit the bomb standard more due to the more universal panning on top of the rest.

Yeah Britney Jean definitely was a bomb  even the fans cant stand it

Let’s ask the little acrobats 

11 minutes ago, eli's_rhythm said:

Ciara’s Fantasy Ride was a flop. Ciara’s Beauty Marks was a bomb.

this^

also,

Christina's Lotus and Bionic were flops

Christina's AGUILERA was a bomb

Bombs are carreer ending flops such as Bionic, Smiley, Paula... something you cant recover

I hate that everyone is using Xtina as an example of bombing and I hate that I thought of her too.

flop- Say So remix

bomb- Trollz & Familia 

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by Pink Whitney