Flo Milli went from potential female rap superstar back with her debut mixtape in 2019 to an unfortunate debut slump with her 2022 album 'You Still Here, Ho?', released via RCA Records, which was accompanied by a series of reality television skit remakes as the album's central campaign.

 

The album also featured more mainstream producers including OG Parker (Megan Thee Stallion, Migos), Dr. Luke (Doja Cat, Latto, Saweetie) and Young Fyre (Lil Wayne, Britney Spears).

 

 

Despite the creative efforts, the album underperformed, spawned no hit singles and was overlooked on year end lists.

What went wrong?

 

 

She’s like Coin Leray - hit and miss. Except on a smaller level lol

Well for one she didn't promote Hottie

She honestly isnt all that talented and comes across too gimmicky. The early Nicki Minaj influences is also too clear with her music. But her album was actually very good. Maybe she just didnt have luck

She’s musically annoying

oversaturated market and no promo, good sis rarely on collab building up profile like other rappers and her image sound is not that stand out to keep release solo songs forever.

edit: thats a reason why hottie is top 3 on album

 

 

Edited January 8, 20233 yr by Polgg48

Her debut was better, but her YSH,H? was still a solid follow-up, one of my favorite female rap releases of last year. Bed Time and Hottie were constant repeats!

 

Colorism also plays a role, especially in hip-hop towards non-mixed race Black women of darker complexion, same thing for Doechii, b/c the talent and bops are def there.

I don’t think anything necessarily went “wrong” she’s still a new artist. Doja didn’t really blow up until Hot Pink (her second album, plus she released an EP Purr & mixtapes/SoundCloud). Nicki released 3 official mixtapes, not including her Hood Starz & The Come Up DVD work. That’s 5/6 YEARS of releasing music BEFORE her debut album which was also pushed back. Everyone isn’t going to be like Cardi who blew up after releasing only 2 mixtapes in one year and their first commercial effort being a hit (Bodak Yellow).

 

It does a disservice to the art of music when we hold new artist to this standard of being a hit maker right out the gate. It takes time to build a fanbase. Flo was like 19 when she first blew up? Nicki started her rap career around that age as well and didn’t become the commercial gyal she is now until 26. I feel like people just discard an artist if they don’t immediately blow up. I think this concept is also hurting artist like Chloe who is actually releasing music, unlike Normani, there’s a difference.

 

Let Flo be a new girl please. Let her build her fanbase. She literally was just touring sold out shows like relax. Everyone isn’t Beyoncé, who was a hit maker out the gate. I think social media ruined the new artist era. It’s like if you’re not consistently going viral you’re seen as a flop. And there are PLENTY of hip hop songs that are seen as hits in the community that never went top 20, let alone top 40 on the hot 100. We have different rules. Hip hop has always been about the talent first, then the numbers. 
 

Flo Milli, Monaleo, Glorilla, and Lola Brooke all got time. The ship has sailed for Saweetie unfortunately (although she can still be a thriving artist as a singles girl and not an album girl. Saweetie knows how to make a hit song). The ship is about to sail for Bia and Coi, but they are trying. Latto is still debatable. The City Girlz, Megan, and Doja are all good. The CG DO NOT have to be chart topping mamas. Their career is fine. You don’t have to be a chart topper to be relevant in hip hop, this is not pop. Same with Meg, she DOES NOT have to be commercially successful like Doja and Nicki to be relevant in hip hop. Again this is not pop.

49 minutes ago, est. in 90s said:

Colorism also plays a role, especially in hip-hop towards non-mixed race Black women of darker complexion, same thing for Doechii, b/c the talent and bops are def there.

 

44 minutes ago, TiaTamera said:

Let Flo be a new girl please. Let her build her fanbase. She literally was just touring sold out shows like relax. Everyone isn’t Beyoncé, who was a hit maker out the gate. I think social media ruined the new artist era. It’s like if you’re not consistently going viral you’re seen as a flop. And there are PLENTY of hip hop songs that are seen as hits in the community that never went top 20, let alone top 40 on the hot 100. We have different rules. Hip hop has always been about the talent first, then the numbers.

1 hour ago, TiaTamera said:

I don’t think anything necessarily went “wrong” she’s still a new artist. Doja didn’t really blow up until Hot Pink (her second album, plus she released an EP Purr & mixtapes/SoundCloud). Nicki released 3 official mixtapes, not including her Hood Starz & The Come Up DVD work. That’s 5/6 YEARS of releasing music BEFORE her debut album which was also pushed back. Everyone isn’t going to be like Cardi who blew up after releasing only 2 mixtapes in one year and their first commercial effort being a hit (Bodak Yellow).

 

It does a disservice to the art of music when we hold new artist to this standard of being a hit maker right out the gate. It takes time to build a fanbase. Flo was like 19 when she first blew up? Nicki started her rap career around that age as well and didn’t become the commercial gyal she is now until 26. I feel like people just discard an artist if they don’t immediately blow up. I think this concept is also hurting artist like Chloe who is actually releasing music, unlike Normani, there’s a difference.

 

Let Flo be a new girl please. Let her build her fanbase. She literally was just touring sold out shows like relax. Everyone isn’t Beyoncé, who was a hit maker out the gate. I think social media ruined the new artist era. It’s like if you’re not consistently going viral you’re seen as a flop. And there are PLENTY of hip hop songs that are seen as hits in the community that never went top 20, let alone top 40 on the hot 100. We have different rules. Hip hop has always been about the talent first, then the numbers. 
 

Flo Milli, Monaleo, Glorilla, and Lola Brooke all got time. The ship has sailed for Saweetie unfortunately (although she can still be a thriving artist as a singles girl and not an album girl. Saweetie knows how to make a hit song). The ship is about to sail for Bia and Coi, but they are trying. Latto is still debatable. The City Girlz, Megan, and Doja are all good. The CG DO NOT have to be chart topping mamas. Their career is fine. You don’t have to be a chart topper to be relevant in hip hop, this is not pop. Same with Meg, she DOES NOT have to be commercially successful like Doja and Nicki to be relevant in hip hop. Again this is not pop.

Hmm i feel like if you don’t strike while the iron’s got it’s going to be over for you and this applies to Flo more than ever rn. I think BIA can stay afloat if her album is really good. Coi is going to be taking Saweetie’s spot and City Girls have been losing steam too. The oversaturation of the female rap game right now makes the pressure to keep your name out there even more intense before people just forget about you. Flo had 2 big tiktok hits in 2019 and now 3 years later it’s only a small percentage of people that still listen to her. 

deserved for working with luke 

??? She's only 22 and just getting started. People aren't always overnight successes. I thought we knew this already.

She's still building a following. Not every rap female is going to blow up overnight. 

She still has time but tbh her flow gets old.

rca fumbled her bag

 

weak went viral after her mixtape drop and they told her they were sending it to radio....just to never send it to radio

She's very young and bubbling up nicely, but I would like her to send a test song to Pop/Rhythmic:

 

This sounds like the next "Big Energy" - sized hit to me. Nostalgic/melancholy guitars, a carefree vibe, and an instant slot on the Forever 21 + H&M store playlists.

 

 

On 08/01/2023 at 19:17, TiaTamera said:

Je ne pense pas que quelque chose se soit nécessairement « mal passé », elle est toujours une nouvelle artiste. Doja n'a pas vraiment explosé jusqu'à Hot Pink (son deuxième album, en plus elle a sorti un EP Purr & mixtapes/SoundCloud). Nicki a sorti 3 mixtapes officielles, sans compter son travail sur DVD Hood Starz & The Come Up. C'est 5/6 ANS de sortie de musique AVANT son premier album qui a également été repoussé. Tout le monde ne sera pas comme Cardi qui a explosé après avoir sorti seulement 2 mixtapes en un an et leur premier effort commercial étant un succès (Bodak Yellow).

 

Cela rend un mauvais service à l'art de la musique lorsque nous tenons un nouvel artiste à cette norme d'être un fabricant de succès dès le départ. Il faut du temps pour construire une base de fans. Flo avait 19 ans quand elle a explosé pour la première fois ? Nicki a également commencé sa carrière de rap vers cet âge et n'est devenue la gyal commerciale qu'elle est aujourd'hui qu'à 26 ans. J'ai l'impression que les gens rejettent un artiste s'ils n'explosent pas immédiatement. Je pense que ce concept blesse aussi des artistes comme Chloé qui sort de la musique, contrairement à Normani, il y a une différence.

 

Laissez Flo être une nouvelle fille s'il vous plaît. Laissez-la construire sa base de fans. Elle tournait littéralement des spectacles à guichets fermés comme relax. Tout le monde n'est pas Beyoncé, qui était un hit maker à la porte. Je pense que les médias sociaux ont ruiné la nouvelle ère des artistes. C'est comme si vous n'étiez pas constamment viral, vous êtes considéré comme un flop. Et il y a BEAUCOUP de chansons hip hop qui sont considérées comme des succès dans la communauté qui ne sont jamais entrées dans le top 20, encore moins dans le top 40 du top 100. Nous avons des règles différentes. Le hip hop a toujours mis l'accent sur le talent d'abord, puis sur les chiffres. 
 

Flo Milli, Monaleo, Glorilla et Lola Brooke ont toutes eu du temps. Le navire a malheureusement navigué pour Saweetie (bien qu'elle puisse toujours être une artiste florissante en tant que célibataire et non en tant que fille d'album. Saweetie sait comment faire une chanson à succès). Le navire est sur le point de naviguer vers Bia et Coi, mais ils essaient. Latto est encore discutable. Les City Girlz, Megan et Doja sont toutes bonnes. Le CG N'A PAS besoin d'être des mamas en tête des charts. Leur carrière est belle . Vous n'avez pas besoin d'être un haut de gamme pour être pertinent dans le hip hop, ce n'est pas de la pop. Même chose avec Meg, elle N'A PAS besoin d'avoir un succès commercial comme Doja et Nicki pour être pertinente dans le hip hop. Encore une fois ce n'est pas de la pop.

This spillllll

On 1/11/2023 at 9:38 PM, trainsskyscrapers said:

She's very young and bubbling up nicely, but I would like her to send a test song to Pop/Rhythmic:

 

This sounds like the next "Big Energy" - sized hit to me. Nostalgic/melancholy guitars, a carefree vibe, and an instant slot on the Forever 21 + H&M store playlists.

 

 

 this can still hit what are they doing?

On 1/29/2023 at 7:40 AM, ronisia said:

This spillllll

Did you translate my post into French? That’s so cool and thank you! People gotta let new artist be new.

RCA is doing nothing for her. Same story with Atlantic and Rico. 

20 hours ago, TiaTamera said:

Did you translate my post into French? That’s so cool and thank you! People gotta let new artist be new.

Yes i did 

 

ugh this needed to be a single