July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221770 The term recession used to be defined as 2 quarters in a row of negative growth. Wikipedia has since changed and locked the wiki page that defines recession: The White House spokesperson said they are not going to define recession. Is this US in recession? Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/ Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221802 We are clearly in SOMETHING cause inflation is REAL I just dont see how people are shocked by this. We came out of a once in a lifetime pandemic and so much money was poured out. Clearly we were gonna feel it sooner than later Edited July 29, 20224 yr by FreeXone Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221802 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221805 I mean, everything here is completely true? The 2 quarters thing is a commonly used definition (as it clearly states in the wikipedia article) but there has never been an "official" definition of recession, and Bill Clinton was not president of the world. Very strange conspiracy theory. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221805 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221816 Us isn't in recession but it is 'technical' Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221816 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221829 Can't have a recession if you can't define it Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221829 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr Author comment_22221851 4 minutes ago, Smarticle said: Can't have a recession if you can't define it How lucky for the whitehouse spokesperson! Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221851 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr Author comment_22221860 14 minutes ago, Dephira said: I mean, everything here is completely true? The 2 quarters thing is a commonly used definition (as it clearly states in the wikipedia article) but there has never been an "official" definition of recession, and Bill Clinton was not president of the world. Very strange conspiracy theory. NBER, which is the definition used by the whitehouse, used to define it as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. They have recently changed it. Why wouldn't the NBER defintion be an official definition? By that logic, there is no official definition for anything. Edited July 29, 20224 yr by AlanRickman1946 Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221860 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221876 Why are they using Wayback Machine for Wikipedia when the history of the page is public they could've just linked to this Wikipedia pages get locked all the time to prevent vandalism, POV edits and so on. If you're not okay with it use the talk page and stop whining EDIT: the article is SEMI-PROTECTED even anyone who's registered can edit Edited July 29, 20224 yr by KillingYourCareer Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221876 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221888 4 minutes ago, AlanRickman1946 said: NBER, which is the definition used by the whitehouse, used to define it as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. They have recently changed it. Why wouldn't the NBER defintion be an official definition? By that logic, there is no official definition for anything. The NBER is a private non-profit, how would anything they do be considered "official"? Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221888 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221904 5 minutes ago, AlanRickman1946 said: NBER, which is the definition used by the whitehouse, used to define it as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. They have recently changed it. Why wouldn't the NBER defintion be an official definition? By that logic, there is no official definition for anything. And the NBER has never defined recession as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. Source for that? It's an organization of academics and professional economists who use a much more complex set of data to determine recessions. Here's an article from 2020 where the NBER declares a recession based on completely different criteria: The U.S. entered a recession in February, according to the official economic arbiter (cnbc.com) Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221904 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221921 10 minutes ago, AlanRickman1946 said: NBER, which is the definition used by the whitehouse, used to define it as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. They have recently changed it. Why wouldn't the NBER defintion be an official definition? By that logic, there is no official definition for anything. They defined it as a 'technical' recession that's true but it was never really an actual irl recession A real recession is like COVID, global financial crisis times etc. but we're clearly not even close to that Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221921 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22221942 Biden's America. Can't have recession if you can't define it. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221942 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr Author comment_22221985 13 minutes ago, Dephira said: The NBER is a private non-profit, how would anything they do be considered "official"? The whitehouse spokesperson said she would leave it up to them. 12 minutes ago, Dephira said: And the NBER has never defined recession as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. Source for that? It's an organization of academics and professional economists who use a much more complex set of data to determine recessions. Here's an article from 2020 where the NBER declares a recession based on completely different criteria: The U.S. entered a recession in February, according to the official economic arbiter (cnbc.com) That link calls it official economic arbiter. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22221985 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22222050 12 minutes ago, AlanRickman1946 said: The whitehouse spokesperson said she would leave it up to them. That link calls it official economic arbiter. Now quote where the NBER defined a recession as "two consecutive quarters of negative growth" Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22222050 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22222063 I’ve been hearing about a looming recession for the past year, almost to the point that it seems like some people actually want a real recession to happen. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22222063 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22222375 Information control in order to ameliorate election losses for Democrats. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22222375 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22222391 I thought this was going to be another messy Monsters VS Beyhive thread Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22222391 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22222395 USA is fuckin over Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22222395 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22222999 Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22222999 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22224565 Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22224565 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22225239 11 hours ago, Archetype said: I’ve been hearing about a looming recession for the past year, almost to the point that it seems like some people actually want a real recession to happen. ding ding ding! it's the same people that wanted society to shut down over COVID (who would still prefer it to be shut down because they once met an immunocompromised person 10 years ago) Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22225239 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22225314 I wonder what the Biden administration thinks they can achieve by gaslighting people into believing that inflation wasn't happening and now that recession isn't happening It's truly mind-blowing that this is their strategy Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22225314 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22225443 This administration is such a joke Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22225443 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 29, 20224 yr comment_22226272 Congrats to everyone who enabled this. Can't wait for them to say that homelessness and poverty are ''undefinable'' and thus don't really exist. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22226272 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20224 yr comment_22227513 7 hours ago, Lost In Paradise said: ding ding ding! it's the same people that wanted society to shut down over COVID (who would still prefer it to be shut down because they once met an immunocompromised person 10 years ago) People fail to realize, while connected, inflation and recessions are not the same thing. One can contribute to causing the other, but it is not a definite, certain cause every time. Anyone who was alive during the 08-09 recession would realize whatever we’re going through now is very different, and companies have learned since last time by slowing hiring and conserving money *in the event* of a recession. Link to comment https://atrl.net/forums/topic/409565-wikipedia-locks-page-on-recession/#findComment-22227513 Share on other sites Share on Bluesky Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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