fan base Normani

[Flare]

3 hours ago, popularmoonlight said:

This post is just so funny 

Don’t be shady. I’m not saying “THIS IS GREAT”. I’m saying “This is where we at so just keep all expectations in the basement and pray the album drops”.

 

Often, musicians have used their acting career to gain interest for their music career and vice versa. It’s not a foreign concept. So let’s just see what happens here. Might be the difference between 5k sales and 10k sales 

 

EDIT: And I don’t think it’s coincidence that she’s filming a movie at the end of this year rather than doing something music related (like studio sessions, a feature of someone else’s album, a music commercial like the NBA Christmas one, etc). There’s not a grand plan here but I don’t think she’s about to forget her music career entirely. I think RCA will get the wheels turning and make her drop a single in the first half of next year. 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Flare

[Camilitau.u]

This is what Fair was suppose to gave. I hope that Beyoncé and SZA have inspired Normani to add more layers to her music.

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Camilitau.u

[Delusional]

Baby I could take ur place if I wanted 

[Cbreezy]

On 12/8/2022 at 5:14 PM, Flare said:

What I’m gathering is that Normani will drop her album next year and have a movie/more dips in acting next year too. Having an acting career and music career will help capitalize on all her Instagram clout in a way that can pay off way more in the long run (instead of just being an IG model).
 

If she can get a stable (not iconic but some stable bookings) acting career off the ground, RCA will start raising her priority at the label again. 

 

Also, whether intentional or not, Normani has dropped all expectations for her album which is perfect. Now she doesn’t have to sell 50k to 100k, doesn’t need to get a Grammy out the gate, doesn’t need to go top 10 on Billboard either, and has completely destroyed all the random Beyonce comparisons that were weighing on her.

 

She can release and live with whatever comes out which is a huge relief to her and probably will help an album 2 come into existence on RCA or independently, sooner than later. 
 

 

As an optimist, I see where you're coming from and like the positive spin. 

 

But let's keep it 100, this is still a kind of an idealistic take. Normani hasn't fully shaken the expectation but she's also arguably missed the "moment". It's a pretty odd, sucky place to be in. 

 

Unfortunate as it is, her situation is not a new occurrence. We've seen it with the Tinashe's, JoJo's, etc. And as much as they were eventually liberated to go on and do as they wanted, the reality is that sitting on the bench as long as they did never ever had positive results. Both of those artists forever have this cloud of "what if" trailing them and still are kinda just making do with what they have. You get the sense that while they are "free", they quite literally HAVE to tour and basically be work-horses forever and always to stay afloat. Normani, at one point, felt like she was on the "new Bey/Rih/Ci" trajectory, which is something altogether bigger than what now feels to be her reality. 

 

Also, I'm not sold on Normani as the new Tinashe being a positive / liberating thing. Looking at the level of videos our girl is pushing (which cost A LOT), the events she goes to for visibility, the idols she's modelling herself on, and the lane she clearly wants to be in, being an indie darling doesn't seem like it'd be fulfilling. That said, they say "life is what happens when you're making plans", so maybe it will be how she "wins" in the end. 

 

It's not a wrap, but I'd say the coming year and her moves within it are make or break for whatever comes after.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Cbreezy

[benten010]

On 12/9/2022 at 5:55 PM, Flare said:

Don’t be shady. I’m not saying “THIS IS GREAT”. I’m saying “This is where we at so just keep all expectations in the basement and pray the album drops”.

 

Often, musicians have used their acting career to gain interest for their music career and vice versa. It’s not a foreign concept. So let’s just see what happens here. Might be the difference between 5k sales and 10k sales 

 

EDIT: And I don’t think it’s coincidence that she’s filming a movie at the end of this year rather than doing something music related (like studio sessions, a feature of someone else’s album, a music commercial like the NBA Christmas one, etc). There’s not a grand plan here but I don’t think she’s about to forget her music career entirely. I think RCA will get the wheels turning and make her drop a single in the first half of next year. 

Please name three artists who’s small roles in movies or film helped their music career?? The two have no correlation. Gaining popularity? Yes. But that doesn’t make people who watched whatever you were in want to check out your music lol. Her doing these acting gigs and cameos will have little impact on her music career. She just getting a bag right now. If she wants to get the hype going for her music she should… I don’t know… Maybe drop New music? ?

[popularmoonlight]

On 12/9/2022 at 10:55 PM, Flare said:

Don’t be shady. I’m not saying “THIS IS GREAT”. I’m saying “This is where we at so just keep all expectations in the basement and pray the album drops”.

 

Often, musicians have used their acting career to gain interest for their music career and vice versa. It’s not a foreign concept. So let’s just see what happens here. Might be the difference between 5k sales and 10k sales 

 

EDIT: And I don’t think it’s coincidence that she’s filming a movie at the end of this year rather than doing something music related (like studio sessions, a feature of someone else’s album, a music commercial like the NBA Christmas one, etc). There’s not a grand plan here but I don’t think she’s about to forget her music career entirely. I think RCA will get the wheels turning and make her drop a single in the first half of next year. 

Did not mean to be shady boo, I just laughed when you said there was no expectations anymore  poor girl, but good for her! let’s crack the bubbling under! she basically went back to zero so who cares. get out of that rca contract, drop a mixtape and that’s it. now that she’s working mainly with Harv it will be easier to put a body of work out bc they obviously have a deal or something like that 

 

 

on another topic now, when she said “been that ***** and i’m still that ***** cuz i never sleep” in somebody else.. whew what a delivery 

[AFullMoonlight]

23 hours ago, Mrs. Carter said:

Well..

Context is key. SZA has reached a new stage in her career, but that doesn’t make what I said wrong. Normani could drop an album now and it do nothing spectacular sales wise, but would still be able to do a theatre tour if she wanted. Her fanbase is big enough for that. 

[Camilitau.u]

5 hours ago, AFullMoonlight said:

Context is key. SZA has reached a new stage in her career, but that doesn’t make what I said wrong. Normani could drop an album now and it do nothing spectacular sales wise, but would still be able to do a theatre tour if she wanted. Her fanbase is big enough for that. 

Y’all acting like there’s no demand for Mani. Once she releases her album her career will rise…it’s written in her destiny if you know about astrology you know she’s gonna make it eventually but it will take her time. She was born to be a Leader/New for a change in the music industry so that’s why it’s so tough right now but once the breakthrough hits her ceiling is higher than even some of todays biggest r&b artist like SZA or Summer simply bc she is her own person she doesn’t chase trends to fit in with the ghetto toxic love baby mama aesthetic  that is in with the mainstream black community. The safe clean Whitney Janet Jackson style r&b/pop will make a comeback once people get tired of toxicity. The fan base is so negative rn and the most pessimistic and it’s understandable but y’all need to stop with the flop predictions when she hasn’t warrant that reaction Wild Side became a hit with little to no effort and if you’ve heard her music you know she’s got a good ear except for Fair lol like even her haters see how good her music if you read the quotes 

 

 

[ratedreid]

On top of her not releasing an album for over three years after her debut single release, she gives her fans radio silence on social media for months at a time. She comes across ungrateful even if that's not the case. 

[futurenostalgic]

it really puzzles me why she's not active on social media at the very least, especially Instagram. it's pretty empty for a popularly derided "ig model" nnn.

[popularmoonlight]

16 hours ago, futurenostalgic said:

it really puzzles me why she's not active on social media at the very least, especially Instagram. it's pretty empty for a popularly derided "ig model" nnn.

 

That’s exactly why she’s not active on IG, people will either keep calling her IG model or simply bullying her into releasing music. She obviously doesn’t want to deal with this type of bullsht 

[AFullMoonlight]

This is cute. I wonder if they’re playing siblings. Also, she looks a lot like her mom here.

 

 

[orange22]

23 hours ago, popularmoonlight said:

 

That’s exactly why she’s not active on IG, people will either keep calling her IG model or simply bullying her into releasing music. She obviously doesn’t want to deal with this type of bullsht 

She got so pissed she’s doing neither now! Actress bag loading 

[EnoughSaid]

On 12/8/2022 at 6:34 AM, Cbreezy said:

TBH, the majority of the blame really rests at the feet of whoever didn't action her going guns blazing with Motivation and whatever album was being worked on around that time.

 

Timing is absolutely EVERYTHING. For her debut, she could and should have come out with an album of 4-5 Motivations, a few hard-hitting R&B bops, and a handful of slower songs. Essentially a slightly more Urban take on her Fifth Harmony sound. 

 

It's so irritating hearing her talk about her album as if she's making Thriller or Mozart. Not only did her idols just get on with it and get better over time (Bey, Rih), we live in an era where it may be album #2 or #3 that is the big "OMG" moment. It's about putting pedal to the metal and not looking back (Ari, Doja, Dua). 

 

She/her team seem to be seeking this "qualitative breakout moment" that in reality is actually at odds with how the music industry works today. 

 

What's so grating is that she easily could have dropped a slightly cookie cutter debut led by Motivation and had the release of Wild Side, Fair, Candy Paint etc be the introduction to her more mature sophomore album. Sonically, thematically etc it would have worked perfectly like that and would have SHOWN the growth she keeps talking about (but never actually demonstrates to the fullest because she never releases any music lol). 

This is the tea. 100% of it 

[Flare]

Normani has become a cautionary tale that stans of newer artists should not get brave and attack legendary artists just because their fave got a top 10 or a lil award. All that negative energy the twitter Nation did, came back as pure karma. Now Normani got forced out of music and has to act to survive.

 

Hopefully, RCA frees her and she can go independent one day and pull a Tinashe (successful indie legend and festival headliner).  

Edited December 19, 2022 by Flare

[benten010]

On 12/8/2022 at 3:34 AM, Cbreezy said:

TBH, the majority of the blame really rests at the feet of whoever didn't action her going guns blazing with Motivation and whatever album was being worked on around that time.

 

Timing is absolutely EVERYTHING. For her debut, she could and should have come out with an album of 4-5 Motivations, a few hard-hitting R&B bops, and a handful of slower songs. Essentially a slightly more Urban take on her Fifth Harmony sound. 

 

It's so irritating hearing her talk about her album as if she's making Thriller or Mozart. Not only did her idols just get on with it and get better over time (Bey, Rih), we live in an era where it may be album #2 or #3 that is the big "OMG" moment. It's about putting pedal to the metal and not looking back (Ari, Doja, Dua). 

 

She/her team seem to be seeking this "qualitative breakout moment" that in reality is actually at odds with how the music industry works today. 

 

What's so grating is that she easily could have dropped a slightly cookie cutter debut led by Motivation and had the release of Wild Side, Fair, Candy Paint etc be the introduction to her more mature sophomore album. Sonically, thematically etc it would have worked perfectly like that and would have SHOWN the growth she keeps talking about (but never actually demonstrates to the fullest because she never releases any music lol). 

THIS!!! It's the second or third album that normally solidifies an artists career trajectory!! The debut album is basically to introduce yourself and of course its important to have hits on there to get your name out but Normani already had a name for herself... Motivation was received well enough to continue the album rollout. Her and/or her label are expecting huge numbers or nothing.. This whole wait has done nothing but had a negative effect on her album. 

 

Holding back this album, everyone is expecting hit after hit on it and if it doesn't perform that way the GP will NOT be checking out her next projects. I'm always so surprised how clueless music execs are when they've been doing this for YEARS and still don't know how to manage their artists careers; ESPECIALLY an artist who already has a name for herself before her solo career!!! 

 

And sadly the music industry is very ageist and very much want the next new young talent and although Normani is only going to be 27 (Which in general is still very young) the music industry is always looking to replace with the younger talent because they know they'll be more profitable. 

[Motivation93]

Shelved

[Topaz]

2018-2023 is crazy

[Camilitau.u]

3 hours ago, Motivation93 said:

Shelved

Huh

[Camilitau.u]

What is this? It’s a whole bop

 

 

[benten010]

1 hour ago, Camilitau.u said:

What is this? It’s a whole bop

 

 

It's called 'High my name is' by Jae Stephens

[Topaz]

Theres definitely enough material to put a decent 70/100 critic score album

[benten010]

I don't know about a 70 maybe a 65.. For me PERSONALLY from what I've heard it would be:

 

Overall - 6.8/10

Lyricism - 4/10

Quality - 6/10 (Of course most tracks aren't fully mastered though)

 

Motivation - 9

Wild Side - 9

Waves - 7.5

Fair - 7

Checklist - 7.5

Slow Down - 7

Insomnia - 7.5

Somebody Else - 7.5

Runaround 5

1 on 1 - 6

Waiting for you - 4.5

DUI - 6.5

Feel Me - 7

Make It Hard - 5

 

[Camilitau.u]

Candy Paint ft Dosha smashing at the top of 2023 would be iconic 

 

 

[Delusional]

5 minutes ago, Camilitau.u said:

Candy Paint ft Dosha smashing at the top of 2023 would be iconic 

 

 

This would save everything