50 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

This makes no sense  

What makes no sense is CNN reporting on a Renaissance leak  As I said every album with physicals is leaked.

 

Parkwood using the leak as a marketing tool to inform GP Bey has an album coming out makes far more sense than CNN doing a segment on an album leaked 2 days before release

5 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Kanye could be a serious challenge to her weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 now.  Who would've expected his streams to gain so much

I mean it's a Kanye and TDS song with features

 

31 minutes ago, kimberly said:

a T-Swift leak now might make headlines, but pre-Eras and pre-media frenzy, I don't think it would have either.

1989 TV, an album that debuted with 1.6M units and was objectively far more hyped than Renaissance also leaked 2 days before release and did not make headlines

 

There is literally no precedent for the media coverage Renaissance’s leak made. I stand by it either being Parkwood capitalizing on it as a promotional tool or the media out to get her.

2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

And if she has a classic on act ii in the vein of this one:

 

 

What THEN? 

 

 

This shant be buried

Just now, Machete said:

1989 TV, an album that debuted with 1.6M units and was objectively far more hyped than Renaissance also leaked 2 days before release and did not make headlines

 

There is literally no precedent for the media coverage Renaissance’s leak made. I stand by it either being Parkwood capitalizing on it as a promotional tool or the media out to get her.

Beyoncé is an important figure, and it was her first new album in 6 years. It was also a huge shift to dance/house music.

 

1989 TV is a rerecorded album. What is there to report? Nothing newsworthy there, besides the rerecorded songs sounding awful (which no one will admit).

3 minutes ago, Machete said:

1989 TV, an album that debuted with 1.6M units and was objectively far more hyped than Renaissance also leaked 2 days before release and did not make headlines

 

There is literally no precedent for the media coverage Renaissance’s leak made. I stand by it either being Parkwood capitalizing on it as a promotional tool or the media out to get her.

The media out to get her and it was Variety who made an article talking about the leak which gave it national coverage, Variety's editorial line around Bey is very weird.

4 minutes ago, Machete said:

1989 TV, an album that debuted with 1.6M units and was objectively far more hyped than Renaissance also leaked 2 days before release and did not make headlines

 

There is literally no precedent for the media coverage Renaissance’s leak made. I stand by it either being Parkwood capitalizing on it as a promotional tool or the media out to get her.

Beyonce drives engagement in a way very few celebrities do. It's less of them being out to get her and more about clicks. 

 

She's also known for running such a tight ship nothing ever leaks -- that was the story, not that a pop star's album leaked. It was her first real leak in 10+ years which is pretty unprecedented

2 minutes ago, Machete said:

the media out to get her.

That's definitely what it was. Nothing else. Beyoncé would never advertised her music, she gains nothing from it, the surprise releases were her biggest sales, her leaks the lowest. Even people who don't care about her will at least check the first week, that's the part of the appeal of being the zeitgeist. 

Some also did that with 4. Not on that level but it was part of most articles at the time.

 

And I remember for Ren, it was started by that magazine that hate her and somehow the media also just like to report everything about and they followed suit but the intention was malicious tbh. 

So why in the world was Cuff It removed from TikTok

 

 

5 minutes ago, chaeyonce said:

The media out to get her and it was Variety who made an article talking about the leak which gave it national coverage, Variety's editorial line around Bey is very weird.

Yes I remember it was Variety who made the first article talking about it, which they don’t do for other leaks. That could’ve set up the path for the rest of the media to discuss it.

 

Variety is weird to her, they had a tweet yesterday talking about how Texas went #1 “carried by strong radio”. Literally reads like a pressed stan

1 minute ago, Machete said:

Variety is weird to her, they had a tweet yesterday talking about how Texas went #1 “carried by strong radio”. Literally reads like a pressed stan

They really hate her. For some weird reason. And that's why they made such a big deal about Renaissance's leak. Anyway she still did OK. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

So why in the world was Cuff It removed from TikTok

 

 

Producers/writers of the song are signed under UMG

55 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Guys you make no sense.

 

Why would she have a physical release of act1 and not act2 if both are intertwined? I think u freak out for no reason

THIS.

 

Like IMAGINE if she announced the album cover and pre-orders or the visuals THIS WEEK, while the entire CéCred thing was launched AS WELL. CéCred would NOT be getting the attention, focus, or buzz that it’s getting now. It would not be getting all these orders and incredible reviews. Beyoncé is acting smart about this and I love it soooo much more. 

 I understand we stan one of the most unpredictable artists to ever come out of music. But I think we just need to stop going around this revolving door of finding new things to worry about EVERYTIME she does something legendary or historic (like getting ANOTHER #1).

While it does make for great conversation, I just think Beyoncé is waiting to announce pre-orders because she just gave us multiple rounds of back-to-back-to-back promo within 3 weeks. She’s trying to milk and use every announcement as a bump for promo rather than having everything lumped in together. I think it’s smart and I prefer it that way so that she ALWAYS has the audience’s attention. We get enjoy something new every week and I MISS this part about stanning.

Edited February 27, 20242 yr by cuteboyzay

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

Producers/writers of the song are signed under UMG

Oh yikes...  Is Texas going to have that same fate?

There could still be pre-orders with physicals, just not vinyl which easily could've driven the sales to hundreds of thousands. There could still be CDs as those can be produced within days. 

 

1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

Oh yikes...  Is Texas going to have that same fate?

I dont think so since they would've removed it already. However pure/Honey and Haunted are other victims, which is sad since Haunted actually had a moment of sorts with gaining new streaming peaks each day

4 minutes ago, BnPac said:

They really hate her. For some weird reason. And that's why they made such a big deal about Renaissance's leak. Anyway she still did OK. 

 

 

They just wrote an article insinuating Texas only went  #1 thanks to radio lmfaooo

6 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Oh yikes...  Is Texas going to have that same fate?

 

3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I dont think so since they would've removed it already. However pure/Honey and Haunted are other victims, which is sad since Haunted actually had a moment of sorts with gaining new streaming peaks each day

https://www.umusicpub.com/us/Digital-Music-Library/song/542625/new-single

 

It's only a matter of time, I believe. I think Raphael is the only one signed to UMPG but that may be enough to make it happen. Not sure, though.

Edited February 27, 20242 yr by ShouldersSideways

17 minutes ago, Machete said:

1989 TV, an album that debuted with 1.6M units and was objectively far more hyped than Renaissance also leaked 2 days before release and did not make headlines

 

There is literally no precedent for the media coverage Renaissance’s leak made. I stand by it either being Parkwood capitalizing on it as a promotional tool or the media out to get her.

No it’s just because it’s Beyoncé. This is why we keep telling y’all Taylor numbers don’t mean anything to most people. same way she wasn’t dragged for releasing her film in Israel while Bey got dragged by the media. 

4 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

 

https://www.umusicpub.com/us/Digital-Music-Library/song/542625/new-single

 

It's only a matter of time, I believe. I think Raphael is the only one signed to UMPG but that may be enough to make it happen. Not sure, though.

Hit Boy also 

Edited February 27, 20242 yr by Rotunda

For Renaissance she put out the box sets even before bms dropped, for act 2 she dropped 2 songs and 2 weeks later no sign of anything.. my theory is, she's trying to prevent leaks Act 2 leaking like Renaissance did, so maybe she's just not going to do pre order at all 

The benefits of having physicals outweigh a leak so if that’s the hold up, her entire Music department needs to be burned down 

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

No it’s just because it’s Beyoncé. This is why we keep telling y’all Taylor numbers don’t mean anything to most people. same way she wasn’t dragged for releasing her film in Israel while Bey got dragged by the media. 

Her numbers BEEN huge, her status only started changing recently due to her being perceived as more political and that relationship with the chiefs guy 

Her actions are starting to get picked apart more closely now, I don't think it will ever be as bad as how Bey gets it though because she is a white woman.

28 minutes ago, R.E.M. said:

Bey's love for money supersedes her fear of leaks. Y'all really think she's going to miss out on millions of dollars because she doesn't want people listening to her music early (many of whom are Hive members who are going to buy one or multiple copies of the album anyway)? 

Yeah, tbh. If there are no physicals, it's probably a fail of organizing than something else. 

No way she would miss out on almost 4M€ first week to prevent a potential leak, or the priorities are weird.

A streaming-only release for a woman that clearly dislikes streaming wouldn’t make sense.