3 minutes ago, kimberly said:

that review shouldn't count for anything. it's clearly not at all about RENAISSANCE but it's a review of Beyoncé as a political entity.

 

AMC over here has Digital screenings through this week and more DOLBY/IMAX over the weekend. depends on your location, probably!

My AMC must suck then, all the dolby screens are for die-hard...

18 minutes ago, Kassi said:

I agree Taylor ain’t really in it. I’m just pointing out the ~very casual~ inclusion of Taylor in the overall narrative.

 

Ultimately, they’re not doing a great job of hiding their anti-Beyoncé agenda. 

Other than Bey and Tay, there is big movies on in Israel right now, Wonka and Leo Dicaprio’s new one. Not a word is being said about those actors. It’s laughable. This is why I can’t take the criticism seriously, also the fact that the US is sending weapons to kill people in Palestine, yet the people hating on Beyoncé are from the US and their issue is with it being shown in Israel only. It makes no sense. 

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

Other than Bey and Tay, there is big movies on in Israel right now, Wonka and Leo Dicaprio’s new one. Not a word is being said about those actors. It’s laughable. This is why I can’t take the criticism seriously, also the fact that the US is sending weapons to kill people in Palestine, yet the people hating on Beyoncé are from the US and their issue is with it being shown in Israel only. It makes no sense. 

Beyoncé gets more clicks and engagement, it's a testament to her star power unfortunately. These losers who weaponize tragedy don't even care about what's going on, it's all about retweets and engagement 

6 hours ago, kimberly said:

re: the visual scrapping discourse — it is legal and common, but that doesn't mean people involved don't care when it happens?

 

if you pour your blood sweat tears into a Beyoncé project only for it to get scrapped, would you go back to work with her when she needs you for Act II or whatever?

 

something like that won't fly. it's like having an unexplained gap in your resumé, yet you did all the work.

 

if she's working with big name industry ppl who don't need Beyonce on their resume for clout - then perhaps no - maybe they won't go back to work with her

 

however many of these creatives are living job to job & need the money and the gig - they will absolutely come back for a check & a chance to be featured. 

 

the sky is not falling...she can choose to not release these visuals & she won't lack for future collaborators. for every person that goes...there's a new person waiting for their big break. its really okay. this is common in the industry....not every existing project sees the light. 

I hope Beyonce doesnt say ****.  Black women are not mules of the world and Beyonce doesnt have to stop and fetch every time a global crisis happens.  Where are the Palestinian celebs?
 

How crazy to think you can force an American woman to speak like a puppet of what you want her to.  For what? Everyone already knows whats happening. Its just to appease a social justice mob.  

 

Honestly though, it isn't a new Beyoncé project without some controversy. 

I'm just so proud of Bey for staying away from that Israel-Palestine stuff. I'm sorry but at some point people have the right to mind their business and admit they dont know everything. Just because they are mega stars doesn't mean they can share opinions on everything. Bey is not a US diplomat. Enough of this. I truly hope next era she goes back with the IASF vibe and only makes hits. Nothing deep just good songs and make your coins woman. None of those people are worth it. They always end up turning on her no matter what she does.

 

 

i thought "Renaissance" was the album & era of having fun with dance music

1 minute ago, giRLbye. said:

i thought "Renaissance" was the album & era of having fun with dance music

She still made a strong statement by paying tribute to gay culture with her uncle Johnny. Deep down some of the attacks on her since that era started is because of it. Homophobia is not completely gone, far from it. Many celebrated this era but it also bothered many others, who used excuses to come at Bey, especially those conservative black folks in the church, they are heated about this album.

13 minutes ago, jane said:

I'm just so proud of Bey for staying away from that Israel-Palestine stuff. I'm sorry but at some point people have the right to mind their business and admit they dont know everything. Just because they are mega stars doesn't mean they can share opinions on everything. Bey is not a US diplomat. Enough of this. I truly hope next era she goes back with the IASF vibe and only makes hits. Nothing deep just good songs and make your coins woman. None of those people are worth it. They always end up turning on her no matter what she does.

 

 

I agree.
 

But I have to say, the funny thing about this is that, back when she wasn’t the face of social justice to these people, they were calling her out for “not speaking up”. 
 

I remember being so confused cause Chime For Change started in Feb 2013, well before the Self-Titled (Dec 2013) feminist declaration, and she had been attending Trayvon Martin rallies that same summer of 2013. 
 

Then I realized it’s because they didn’t keep up with her activism like that. They wanted her to be in FRONT of the movement before they could credit her. Then when she did so in 2016, it was called performative and exploitative, even when she went to great lengths to make Formation single FREE for 3 months. 
 

I’ve been in this for so long that I see all their patterns now. It’s always about humbling the woman, so they will find a way. The key is to ignore and shut them down. They’ll use fancy buzzwords and wrap up their disdain in activist language and academic theories, but these are not serious people. They are posers (and MANY times Rihanna stans or fans of lesser RnB girls).

The press for the film DID make big deal about it being released on World AID Day

The most annoying part of the article is her saying that people project radicalness onto bey. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone in the hive or bey herself refer to her politics as radical. She focuses mostly on the craft of it and the messaging is secondary. I understand wanting her to be more clear about the stances that she takes but that review is just a mean spirited takedown and completely unfair to her 

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@V$. not us getting a release date and a trailer before the Renaissance visuals.

 

 

I just had war flashbacks to defending her feminism in 2014 and trying to get the girls to understand that she had indeed been feminist her entire career and to just look at the messages in her music catalogue for proof. 

 

Oh I used to so earnest and naive. Meanwhile those people were trolling.  We’ve come a long way 

 

Cuff It (Live RWT Version) haters lost that day 

 

8 hours ago, PrettyHurts said:

y'all need to just accept that parkwood and the rest of the world have moved on from the visuals

this is false. If parkwood moved on from them she wouldn’t have had Kevin prodigy mention them during the show. She just released a shirt 5 days ago that says “you are the visual baby” she is literally reminding us about them consistently.

4 minutes ago, yonsé said:

this is false. If parkwood moved on from them she wouldn’t have had Kevin prodigy mention them during the show. She just released a shirt 5 days ago that says “you are the visual baby” she is literally reminding us about them consistently.

so much happened in here today wow. a journey to catch up on so many pages

 

1. Renai-

 

 

^This is basically the cliff notes version

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Kassi said:

 

^This is basically the cliff notes version

 

 

 

oh I made sure to read through before commenting because a pet peeve of mine is people asking questions that are already answered a page or two before

 

16 minutes ago, Machete said:

Yes I mentioned this shirt already. And when she released this shirt no one had moved on from FWT either. So idk what point you’re trying to make lol

 

my point is that she’s using our desire for these to push her marketing, which means no she hasn’t moved on and forgotten about them. They are very present.

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Not this eating up all of the Church Gurl looks.

It was truly ahead of its time

 

 

how many documentaries has this footage been in now? Do we think this is all she has?

6 hours ago, QueenB said:

I wish the film went into why she cut the "big" three out, was it logistical? Was it too straining on her voice? I would've liked to known

Also when the horse wouldn't go up, I need the behind the scenes look backstage when that happened. 

 

I wanna see it a third time but AMC shows no listings this week, was this just a one weekend event? 

From the looks of it, it drags.

 

● "Thique" honestly looks like she's board. The highlights are the glimpse of visuals and the Britney sample. 

 

● "All Up In Your Mind" looks like it's boring to audiences. The song already lacks on the album, but the live performance is boring. 

 

● "Drunk In Love" is the of best of the 'Big 3", but it may be a bit much to sing already 2.5 hours into a 3 hour show. Seems like she did more live singing this tour, by the time you get to nearly the end, the ending of that arrangement is probably it bit much. 

39 minutes ago, yonsé said:

this is false. If parkwood moved on from them she wouldn’t have had Kevin prodigy mention them during the show. She just released a shirt 5 days ago that says “you are the visual baby” she is literally reminding us about them consistently.

She also had sticky notes in the movie saying the film will stay in her mind 

much like the FWT