42 minutes ago, Coklek92 said:

And still no prediction by HDD in the USA??? 

Don't quote me, but I think HDD projections are done for good.

 

Their data provider was Alpha Data, and Alpha Data has just shut down since they were bought by MRC/Billboard. Their site now redirects to MRC's https://alphadata.fm/

 

HDD was KNOWN to drag MRC/Billboard so I doubt MRC will be here for providing HDD data...

51 minutes ago, Otter said:

Honestly still serving numbers people like Taylor and Beyonce struggled to achieve in their peak but yes... A decline from his previous mega sales

Hmm UK is Ed Sheerans home country. Just like Taylor and Beyonce have bigger debuts than him in their home country. 

 

33 minutes ago, Yog said:

Yeah.. no, she’ll definitely do more than this 

Clearly they know that nn. Will Adele manage to pull 500k+?

 

OT: These are not cute numbers for his standard tbh. No one expected him to do 670k but not even 200k? 

 

so the biggest sales week of the year

 

a success

 

12 minutes ago, Machete said:

Don't quote me, but I think HDD projections are done for good.

 

Their data provider was Alpha Data, and Alpha Data has just shut down since they were bought by MRC/Billboard. Their site now redirects to MRC's https://alphadata.fm/

 

HDD was KNOWN to drag MRC/Billboard so I doubt MRC will be here for providing HDD data...

What the hell??? 

 

Ohh so this is why Rollingstones charts has shut down too?

Edited November 1, 20214 yr by JawBreaker

5 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

Clearly they know that nn. Will Adele manage to pull 500k+?

I would say around the 300k to more range 

2 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

What the hell??? 

 

Ohh so this why Rollingstones charts has shut down too?

Wait, what? This is case for an FBI

3 minutes ago, Yog said:

I would say around the 300k to more range 

That seems too conservative. If Coldplay, ABBA and Ed are doing 100k+ then sure Adele will pull at least 4x that 

1 minute ago, popmusic said:

Wait, what? This is case for an FBI

Billboard is truly a bully. They want to be the sole sales data provider. 

Honestly I have visited Rollingstones and AlphaData websites more than I have ever visited Billboard.

What a flop, bet Ed expected to debut with +250k at least 

5 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

That seems too conservative

I’m just predicting without my stan glasses, but I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if she did 500k 

17 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

What the hell??? 

 

Ohh so this is why Rollingstones charts has shut down too?

Yup! Rolling Stone and Billboard parent companies merged last year, and decided there was no need for RS Charts anymore (as they're direct competitors).

https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/variety-hollywood-reporter-pmc-joint-venture-mrc-1234780379/

https://www.businessinsider.com/rolling-stone-editor-plans-to-revive-magazine-internal-tensions-2021-10
 

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The magazine is shuttering Rolling Stone Charts, its competitor to Billboard, which is owned by the same parent company.

It's f*cked up, but business I guess

1 hour ago, Ivan_brit said:

So far the biggest debut of 2021 at the Uk is Coldplay with 101k

 

Ed Will deaf do more arround 110-130k 

 

The Collabs project did 125k 

 

He is doing fine! The album will be automatically Gold / almost Top 10 best selling album of the year 

Coldplay are (legendary) old hags, his album doing similar numbers with two #1 smashes is not a good sign at all, even the most pessimistic predictions would give give him +200k 

 

Edited November 1, 20214 yr by gustavothehuman

Top 100 Albums

1 Ed Sheeran - = (84,178) *
2 Richard Ashcroft - Acoustic Hymns Vol. 1 (8,706) *
3 Spice Girls - Spice (6,087) ^
4 Elton John - The Lockdown Sessions (4,695)
5 The War On Drugs - I Don’t Live Here Anymore (4,170) *

 

Top 100 Singles

1 Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti (28,458) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Shivers (28,004)
3 Adele - Easy On Me (27,168)
4 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (20,896)
5 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits (12,507)
 

 

I wish more artist could flop this way, a lot of you are sooo extra

1 hour ago, Yog said:

Yeah.. no, she’ll definitely do more than this 

duh. i think adele will do around 600k

20 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said:

Top 100 Albums

1 Ed Sheeran - = (84,178) *
2 Richard Ashcroft - Acoustic Hymns Vol. 1 (8,706) *
3 Spice Girls - Spice (6,087) ^
4 Elton John - The Lockdown Sessions (4,695)
5 The War On Drugs - I Don’t Live Here Anymore (4,170) *

 

Top 100 Singles

1 Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti (28,458) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Shivers (28,004)
3 Adele - Easy On Me (27,168)
4 Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (20,896)
5 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits (12,507)
 

 

I wish more artist could flop this way, a lot of you are sooo extra

Adele is closing up the gap, wouldn't mind if Ed gets for rooting for EOM  

This is an undperformance considering how successful the singles have been and Divide did 5 times more than this will do first week.

Adele should easily double this.

19 minutes ago, Sharapov said:

duh. i think adele will do around 600k

Doubt it. 

 

Sales have declined a lot. She’ll probably do like 350-450k  which is still fantastic. 

8 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said:

Doubt it. 

 

Sales have declined a lot. She’ll probably do like 350-450k  which is still fantastic. 

hm isnt streaming part of the sales??

 

In the United Kingdom, 25 debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart and sold 800,307 copies in its first chart week

1 minute ago, Sharapov said:

hm isnt streaming part of the sales??

 

In the United Kingdom, 25 debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart and sold 800,307 copies in its first chart week

Yes but streaming is not enough to make up the decline in sales.

3 minutes ago, Sharapov said:

hm isnt streaming part of the sales??

 

In the United Kingdom, 25 debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart and sold 800,307 copies in its first chart week

But all or most of the units numbers were actual sales

 

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In the United Kingdom, 25 debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart and sold 800,307 copies in its first chart week, overtaking Oasis' Be Here Now (1997) to become the fastest-selling album of all time in the UK.^[146] Of that total, 252,423 copies were digital downloads, breaking the record for most digital copies sold in a week, and 548,000 were physical copies.

And the decline has been huge for streaming to make up the gap.

Edited November 1, 20214 yr by UnusualBoy

6 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said:

Yes but streaming is not enough to make up the decline in sales.

 

5 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

But all or most of the units numbers were actual sales

 

And the decline has been huge for streaming to make up the gap.

not trying to set her up but i still think she can get close to 600k. even if sales have gone down it's still ADELE

2 hours ago, Otter said:

Honestly still serving numbers people like Taylor and Beyonce struggled to achieve in their peak but yes... A decline from his previous mega sales

Taylor and Beyonce are constantly criticized for being local to the US so Ed should not be looking to them for a standard in his home country.  Even at his peak Ed could not match either in their home country either.  

underwhelming for him but it will still be the biggest first week of the year, until Adele. not a loss.

Uhm what was ed talking about when he said 600k pre-orders? Surely most of those must be UK? What's happening here? 

The 15 weeks at #1 are impressive but these numbers don’t reflect that. I know sales have basically flatlined since 2017 but = is pacing to sell less than 20% of divide’s first week. That’s not good. People dragged me on here for saying that No. 6 underperformed but it’s quite clear Ed lost his commercial grip on the UK.
 

Methinks a flop for his (incredible) standards. 

40 minutes ago, Sharapov said:

 

not trying to set her up but i still think she can get close to 600k. even if sales have gone down it's still ADELE

Maybe she will, I think 350k-400k is safe to her, if she does anywhere close to 600k like you say