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Omg that chorus is so classic SM. It is certainly a shame that Lee Sooman has to go from Ultra Hell for this entire project.

The last two episodes were like fine (and better than the 6 before it) but I also have absolutely zero expectations so maybe that's why I can tolerate it

Every major artist does this now, even Charli had something like this for Apple. They additionally pay (albeit less) for people to tweet about artists. That's just how the internet is now - we're drowned in ads on every webpage and additionally subjected to undisclosed ones.

I don't know how it would've performed commercially at that time, but I'd absolutely love if this had been a part of her discography.

Oh GodA

? I already said it's alright that you enjoy music marketed to children. Most of K-pop is that. If you need to convince yourself that it's okay, you can do so privately and not rambling to me. Lets move on now please

There isn't anything wrong with enjoying them. I'm just letting you know that your diss is contradicting what you clearly like yourself - music that by your own set criteria speaks to people who (verbatim) can't be older than 14.

Okay but admittedly it is funny how fast he is with it

But you stan Katseye who's tour has shown that they primarily appeal to children? Pot meet kettle

Perched for this but also its kind of troll how they all have a name with a color yet their masks are all pink and purple?

No one was talking about them here in this past day, though. If the people who don't want NewJeans brought up here are saying they're tired of hearing about the same tired discussion, its contradictory of them to then go and upvote your counterpoint that wasn't even happening. Not to mention you doing so when the general conversation was already moving on...

If you go back to the time of Illit's debut, there were loads of K-netz and global fans alike pointing out both aesthetic and musical similarities, starting with their appearance at fashion week where news outlets mixed them up. This was happening before Min Heejin ever said anything herself. This wasn't some K-pop girl group primordial soup like you're saying. People very much knew Newjeans and their sound. Moving the bar and saying that Magnetic had to play into a specific rip-off is again, just dishonest about how people felt at the time of their debut. While I'm not on board with that "destiny swapping" buzzterm that emerged recently, Tokkis have every right to remain upset with what transpired. Not only that, but Gllits have had to remain in constant defense since their debut too thanks to the root of it all: Hybe blowing up an internal complaint that should have been handled privately. Thanks to them for the rest of Illit's career you will be having to continue defending against copycat allegations, no matter how far they've strayed from their debut's sound and aesthetic. Additionally If you parse through and search for the worst of the worst of either fanbase, genuinely neither is better than the other in that sense. Literally a mid-off. Your entire argument here relies on continuing to downplay what the environment was actually like at the time of Illit's debut and calling people crazy. It's not very convincing.

I don't think that Get Up sounds like it either, but acting like Magnetic couldn't be confused as a NewJeans song by the average listener when Illit debuted is totally dishonest lol

It is pretty obvious that Hybe/Belift used that fashion week opportunity to convolute the two as exposure for their debut. Not to mention Magnetic sounds sonically similar enough to where the average listener could (and did!) mistake it for Newjeans. I don't know why people believe that downplaying this makes it not true. I've said this before but beyond some sporadic ragebait I don't even find Illit's concept now that similar to Newjeans. However, at debut there was absolutely an intent to confuse people to build their foundation. A lot of groups become derivative of each other in every gen yeah, but it was pretty early for this to start. Not to mention under the same umbrella label, which then brings in the topic of self-cannibalization. Anyway none of us are ever gonna really agree with each other and everyone is ultimately talking to separate walls in a room lol

I think it is just discrediting when people don't like them but hate on the wrong things. I don't care for either group's music nor creative direction but if I was saying they can't dance or aren't pretty it'd be obvious lying. Even dissing Sakura is disingenuous the way people go about it. Duh she isn't a vocalist but she doesn't actively take you out of a song the way another member can. Just not being a good singer isn't actually a disqualifier in K-pop.

The chorus grew on me omg also it is kind of a Lemon Tang ender

By definition this is your argument. Your repeated case here has been that people online need to get over thinking AI and the lack of regulations around it is shoddy because people in the "real world" don't care and are okay with it. I don't care to convince you of anything, you clearly lack the autonomy to think any harder in the first place when your position has been solely following a mindset that is bankrolled by the wealthiest people in the world!

This argument is so dumb and I've seen you post it before, too. Yeah a huge chunk of people are going to feel indifferent / supportive of a product being deliberately pushed around them with an endless supply of money continuing to try and back that normalization.

She had to pay respect to the real queen of fragrances

They look exuberant

Her case is absolutely disgusting or else I'd say its time to give up and let her go out of principle for lasting twice

I think I speak for everybody here when I say we are seated for Chiikawa and his endeavors

Oh oops, I was skimming since I already read it yesterday. Added ty I could see why they don't like that! However I don't want to project feelings onto them from a blind item. Crazydaysandnights/Enty will post basically anything emailed to him. That entire site is a conspiracy theory rabbithole, someone def sent that in to troll

First subsidiary mentioned - Source Music 5 member girl group - Le Sserafim Disbanded group - GFRIEND "Star artist who was kicked" - Kim Garam 4 Letter subsidiary - ADOR Girl group under 4 letter subsidiary - NewJeans "Snitch" group - KATSEYE Copycat group - ILLIT Member of copycat group - Moka Yellow Company's biggest boy group - BTS Most popular member of snitch girl group - Manon or Sophia ? It is all just a fanfic mess no matter what way you feel about the groups omg Also the ending paragraph gets so confusing

What in the world is this fanfic... Enty has truly fallen off with blind items