DorothyVallens

RIP, his work was so influential and great. Surely not the time to make jokes about a person that has just passed away. And also disgusting of some of you to take this opportunity to take a dig at a fanbase while acting as if it's coming from an ethical stance. But this is ATRL, after all.

This album expresses perfectly what life feels like to live in this day and age. It takes the reflective parts of brat and takes it even further. Self-loathing, the numbness, the impossibility of feeling something, the overthinking, not feeling enough, and so on. Great album and a step in the right direction (at least for those of us who care about the music).

Really liked this album. I think the expectations on Charli are waaaay to high for some reason. People expected this album to be the outstanding creation of a genius, and of course it's not. She has nothing to prove, she's making the music she wants to and that's amazing in itself! Male artists are not so scrutinized. She takes herself way too seriously, or she's vapid, or she's tryhard, or she's a mastermind. It's tiring. Love the texture, the mood, the ideas. It's fun, it's fresh, and it's different, something not many recent albums have acheived lol.

And why should I be sent to reflect by any of you all? Are you so morally incorrupt as to teach us about what happens in our OWN country? And I'm a cultural anthropologist btw. I literally reflect about the ethnic and racial history and practices of my country for a living lmao. I know the ways racism presents itself in this nation, I have friends that are from all over Latin America (Ecuador, Perú, Venezuela, Colombia) because they came to this country to receive an education for free and my own ancestors are indigenous. We are not deflecting, we are giving reasons as to why we won't accept to be dehuminized and generalized as white supremacists when the history and everyday life in Argentina is not at all what you (people who have never read a book about us not step a foot here) make it out to be. And as I've said multiple times: racism is sadly present in this country, as in every other state-nation. We have tools and institutions to fight it. We don't need you to scold us and send us to reflect. As a famous argentinian contemporary philosopher would say: "No vengas a dar lecciones de moral acá, por favor. Haciéndote la apóstol de qué? De la buena ética? Dejate de joder".

You should receive a warning point for calling a whole nation disgusting. That stupid "cultural center" you shared existed for less than a month and was closed. There's almost no history of far-right activism in the country, it's fairly recent and that's why the inspiration behind that hell hole is Kyle Rittenhouse (an american man) and not an argentinian figure. Political activism is almost universally leftist in this country, read about Madres y Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo, Archivo Trans, Identidad Marrón, and so on. You should inform yourself from other sources aside tik tok, tweets and reels. The history of a nation is way more complex than the reductive things you're spewing. But what can you expect from a representative of the most historically imperialist, violent and structurally racist nation in human existence.

GIRL don't tell us, we've been SUFFERING from 2023 on because of the way this current government is destroying what took us decades to build. You can't possibly claim that we are racist because of the decisions a right-wing current president is making. And EVEN if this president is the WORST in the history of this country public education and healthcare are still a thing! And we put our energy to keep it alive! Day after day working for a laughable salary! Doctors and teachers leaving their lives behind and giving it all for education and healthcare for ANYONE THAT STEPS A FOOT IN THIS COUNTRY AND NEEDS IT. And I get effusive because you don't know what our lives have become these last few years. My god, it's as if you ignored the way parlamentary democracy works. Yes Milei is awful, no not ALL of us validate his views.

My god can't you people differentiate a president's horrible point of view from the rest of the country? We all hate Milei the same way you hate Trump. Also Argentina does not have historical ties with Israel, that's literally something the current awful right-wing government is feeding into for the first time in the history of this country. And it's not the most minor of criticisms, we've been the laughing stock of the internet for the last week and there's argentine migrants that have received xenophobic hate in the streets because of this stupid narrative that has unfolded. You guys can't see it but it's a dehumanizing discourse that has had impact in other nations like Venezuela and Iran before, and its results have been terrible for those countries. I know it's fun to kiki and laugh about a caricature of a whole ass country, but it's truly hurtful for us all and even more for those of us who have endured racism and have to put up with this demonic government day after day.

We've reached the same conclusion: antiblackness and racism are a global issue. I said every state-nation is racist. From a brown person to a black person: we know racism presents itself in a myriad of ways. Do I believe Argentina is racist? A %100. I've endured racism myself and am very conscious of its existence. Is there a sudden social lynching of a whole nation (that is poor, racially mixed and altogether a non-factor in global conflicts)? A %100. I think you can't see it at the moment, but this has blown out of proportion and has been truly dehumanizing for us all. I'm not racist, the people who surround me are not racist, we are poor and we have a horrendous president that is making our lives worse and worse each passing day. I'm not victimizing myself, it's just that it hurts so much and it's so unfair to be treated as racist scum by international celebrities for the evilness of a vocal minority. Just that, I truly don't want to argue, it's been exhausting and sad because no matter what I say it is never enough.

Baby, the whole debacle began because Samuel L. Jackson is claiming that the treatment of black people in Argentina is worse than in others. Every single modern state-nation was built under racism, there's no pristine country, that's something we all have made clear in this discussion. But why is it that argentinian racism is under the magnifying glass so ruthlessly? Why is there an urgent need to say we are the most racist country in the whole world? You are the ones ranking countries for their specific displays of racism, not me. And about the tweet you are referencing: that is a widely known right-wing account that aligns with Trump's principles. Do you infer that the thoughts of a known right-wing propagandist represent the sentiments of a whole nation? If that were the case then americans are truly cooked. I can't believe you are reducing the discussion to the discourses of a minority that exists in each an every country as we know the far right is spreading all over the world.

The proof that Argentina is the most racist country in the world is a... tweet with less than four hundred likes? Let me tell you something about the most racist country in the world: in Argentina we have free education (our universities are full of brazilian, colombian, ecuadorian, venezuelan, peruvian students), a free healthcare system and legal and constitutional recognition for migrants and foreigners from any place in the whole world. So, no matter your nationality, ethnicity or your skin colour you can study, receive healthcare and be recognized legally in this country for free. I mean it's probably the only country in this world that is SO open and welcoming to migrants yet because of a series of edgy tweets and stupid racist remarks (which are completely reprehensible but could obviously not be generalizable to a whole damn nation) suddenly we deserve backlash and hate from every other country? I mean, it's serious. Many migrant argentinians have faced violence and discrimination in the last few days because of this random hate train all across the internet. Isn't it DERANGED to accuse a whole country of being racist?

Where are the sources for this nonsense? Mixed marriages occurred in Argentina because we never had segregation politics like the US. The US ran a racial segretation well into the 60s and Argentina is supposed to be more racist Slavery was abolished in Argentina in 1813, declaring that from that moment on every child born from an enslaved woman was free. Slavery in the US was abolished 50 years later. And you want to talk about whitening politics, lol

The whole movie suffers from a bad casting. Big names but the acting was a chop, except for Matt Damon and Samantha Morton. I know it's probably an unpopular opinion, but Anne felt off in every scene she was in.

But I was told Spain wasn't racist and that they were the good ones

What would be "keeping it real"? What do you want us to do? Please point me to the last racist violence event in Argentina that went unpunished. Provide me with facts, not racist remarks in twitter as if that would represent a whole country's ideology. This are important issues, we're not talking about top 40 songs or popstar gowns. It can't be opinions based, we have to discuss facts. Nobody denies racism in this country, how the hell would that look like? We're 46 million people ffs

Every single comment from argentinians in this thread admits racism is an issue in our country. Racism is a global issue, no country is exempt of it. It's not whataboutism, it's just that there's a clear narrative unfolding against a whole nation and that is dangerous. I am of mapuche descent, there's brown people all over my family, my friends, my work, everywhere I go. You don't get to call me racist because of some tweets and vague ideas of what the people of this country are like. Callate, blanca.