1 minute ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

Immature take.

 

What Madonna did was totally revolutionary. She opened so many doors for female artists to express their sexuality openly and without shame, that is a huge deal. Not only that but she used her platform to shed light on racism, homophobia, AIDS crisis, and so much more. Madonna also showed extreme resilience and constantly challenged her musically, professionally and personally. 

"Immature take" meanwhile y'all be wanting controversy for the sake of controversy.

12 minutes ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

That said, people always talk about how Taylor has so much power and influence and that's certainly true, but it really does not extend outside of the white race. White women are the reason she is where she is today.

This is demonstrably not true. Statista just posted statistics about her audience and showed that it is NOT composed primarily of white women. 

2 minutes ago, BoDaToe said:

The Beatles and especially Lennon are overrated garbage just like miss swift.

I respect your opinion! But I do enjoy some of The Beatles music, and I see why they are still important today. I don't think people will think the same in 50 years when they listen to Me!, Karma, Gorgeous, etc.

One in FOUR US adults is a fan of hers. The divide is split almost 50/50 for men and women. And the ethnic breakdown is much more diverse than you’re implying in the OP. 

3 minutes ago, Goaty said:

This is demonstrably not true. Statista just posted statistics about her audience and showed that it is NOT composed primarily of white women. 

Spoiler

Where are the non-white people you speak of? I see maybe one or two in the crowds. The majority of the people who worship her and think of her as a "great" in the vein of Michael, Madonna, Whitney, etc are white women and white gays.

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1 minute ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

The Tortured Poets Department put April 19 btw 

Another snooze fest coming 

1 minute ago, Goaty said:

One in FOUR US adults is a fan of hers. The divide is split almost 50/50 for men and women. And the ethnic breakdown is much more diverse than you’re implying in the OP. 

Do not underestimate hive-minded individuals and people who are for all things mainstream. I would like to see the same studies pre-Eras PR Tour.

 

It's also eyebrow raising that these studies are being conducted in the first place. I call bullshit.

Is spelling fun?

Just now, Big Bad Wolf said:

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Where are the non-white people you speak of? I see maybe one or two in the crowds. The majority of the people who worship her and think of her as a "great" in the vein of Michael, Madonna, Whitney, etc are white women and white gays.

I’m talking about a published article of statistics and you’re bringing up pictures from her tour?  It’s fallacious to imply the tour demographics extend to her overall consumption demographics for reasons that shouldn’t need an explanation. 

5 minutes ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

The Tortured Poets Department put April 19 btw 

Anyone successful will be called overrated. 
 

Her hype is overrated because she isn’t doing anything amazing, and people try to push it like she is some kind of god to music. 

I don't really believe in the concept of art being overrated because simply that's not the art's or artist's fault and not a valid criticism since it all relies on what other people think about it rather than the art itself. I will say though that nothing that she does is appealing to me and if it would be for me, you know, in MY opinion, she wouldn't be as popular or acclaimed.

1 minute ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

 

It's also eyebrow raising that these studies are being conducted in the first place. I call bullshit.

Sounds like you’ve already made up your mind! Statistics be damned, I guess. 

2 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

Another snooze fest coming 

to outsell everyone's attempt 

Overall no but the hype she has right now yes , she has always been massive but since the era tour she’s  everywhere and she doesn’t do anything different that she used to do so I don’t get the sudden repeak in her career 

7 minutes ago, almanac said:

"Immature take" meanwhile y'all be wanting controversy for the sake of controversy.

No, I'm expressing an opinion you deem controversial because it goes against Taylormania. Move!

Check the polls, clearly it isn't that controversial, sis.

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No. She literally owns the universe (and everybody's minds for that matter) 

 

 

Just now, MidnightsAtPeace said:

to outsell everyone's attempt 

Yes. 

Anyway. For those in this thread who aren’t statistically illiterate and would like to learn more about her fan demographics (and other interesting statistics about her fame) - the Statista publication is great and 100% worth a read. 

Just now, Finkypop said:

No. She literally owns the universe (and everybody's minds for that matter) 

 

 

she's so powerful everyone is so bothered and threatened by her

legendary behavior 

1 minute ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

No, I'm expressing an opinion you deem controversial because it goes against Taylormania. Move!

Check the polls, clearly it isn't that controversial, sis.

Is Water wet?

Just now, Goaty said:

Anyway. For those in this thread who aren’t statistically illiterate and would like to learn more about her fan demographics (and other interesting statistics about her fame) - the Statista publication is great and 100% worth a read. 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=TAYLOR+SWIFT+REVIEW

 

Where are Taylor's very diverse fanbase discussing her exactly?

 

The overrated title fits Taylor better than it ever did Beyoncé tbh. Take everything away and Beyoncé still has her consistent singing/vocal and performing abilities at base level but for Taylor she has her songwriting which can be extremely inconsistent depending on who she collabs with.

How many Taylor Threads are made a day. No she ain’t overrated, she is just over exposed af

 

but she deserves it. Few artist have a discography that can be molded into an Era’s Era Give her her 10’s