Jude Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 When I was younger I used to do micro tasks that paid cents for every small task like watching a video, subscribing to a channel, or liking a video, posts, pics, etc... I wonder if they do it now to increase streams? Discuss.
Virgos Groove Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Yes, but only the artists I dislike use them Edited January 16, 2023 by ATWK
liver Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, ATWK said: Yes, but only the artists I dislike use them but you have Taylor in your signature?
Virgos Groove Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, liver said: but you have Taylor in your signature? Mother is 100% organic
Wolf Alice Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, ATWK said: Yes, but only the artists I dislike use them The way some losers already proved your point
Carry My Heart Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) It's very funny to me when OTHs employ this against Taylor despite the fact that they have zero evidence she uses them. Then why didn't she ramp them up to avoid Carolina tanking on its second day? What about the evermore streams being substantially lower than folklore's? Fearless TV and its respective promo singles didn't pull that much either. Now what? Her chart success is a testament to her massive demand. Edited January 17, 2023 by Carry My Heart
Bonicap Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Yes, they are useful for small/very small artists who want playlist placements or they think they'll trick a label by showing their bloated numbers. Just like influencers do with likes and followers. A big artist obviously won't do this because why would they want to pay for 500k or 1M streams when it's a negligible number for them? They gain nothing, lose money and risk being exposed.
Literature Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Yes and I watched a whole video of some reporter who filmed one behind the scenes, but they only have the capacity to generate a few million streams over a whole MONTH. It's for no-names, not celebrities Algorithms are a lot bigger of a culprit when we're talking about artists in the mainstream Edited January 17, 2023 by Literature
Into The Void Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Bonicap said: Yes, they are useful for small/very small artists who want playlist placements or they think they'll trick a label by showing their bloated numbers. Just like influencers do with likes and followers. A big artist obviously won't do this because why would they want to pay for 500k or 1M streams when it's a negligible number for them? They gain nothing, lose money and risk being exposed. Small artists can't afford to pay for those 500k streams
Reginald Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 @Me streaming Ava Max Diamonds & Dancefloors on January 27th
Eternium Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Bonicap said: Yes, they are useful for small/very small artists who want playlist placements or they think they'll trick a label by showing their bloated numbers. Just like influencers do with likes and followers. A big artist obviously won't do this because why would they want to pay for 500k or 1M streams when it's a negligible number for them? They gain nothing, lose money and risk being exposed. I feel like you girls don’t understand streaming farms. The reason major labels release a ton of different “tracks” for each song is because one account can replay it up to 20 times per day. Fans can open as many tabs as they want and thus, they can have multiple accounts streaming the same song daily. The most I’ve ever seen one fan get in one day is 20,000 streams from one device. This is how labels fuel streaming farms: Anti-Hero - Midnights Anti-Hero - Midnights (3 AM Edition) Anti-Hero (Acoustic Version) - Anti-Hero (Acoustic Version) Anti-Hero (ILLENIUM Remix) - Anti-Hero (ILLENIUM Remix) Anti-Hero (feat Bleachers) - Anti-Hero (Remixes) Anti-Hero (Roosevelt Remix) - Anti-Hero (Remixes) Anti-Hero (Kungs Remix) - Anti-Hero (Remixes) Anti-Hero (Jayda G Remix) - Anti-Hero (Remixes) Anti-Hero - Anti-Hero (Remixes) Anti-Hero (feat Bleachers) - Anti-Hero (feat Bleachers) Anti-Hero - Anti-Hero (feat Bleachers) Just by releasing different editions, Republic changed how one account can bring in 20 streams per day to now being able to bring in 220 streams per day. You’ll notice that they even re-upload some of the same versions of the song on different editions just to give streaming farms more fodder. And this is incredibly common in every aspect. Every major hit this decade is participating in this fraudulence, it seems. We need to take a note from South Korea - they require you to use a government ID to have streams that count for the charts and they only count one stream per day per unique listener.
Eternium Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Literature said: Yes and I watched a whole video of some reporter who filmed one behind the scenes, but they only have the capacity to generate a few million streams over a whole MONTH. It's for no-names, not celebrities Algorithms are a lot bigger of a culprit when we're talking about artists in the mainstream Using 3 devices, you can pretty easily make some 21.9M in a year. That’s pretty huge, sis. 30 devices alone could do 219M. Get 300 and now you have 2.19B streams. But I will agree that algorithms are the biggest culprit, along with passive listening. My gym just plays a Spotify playlist for 24 hours on a loop. Anyone who pays to be on that playlist is getting streams, even though it plays when nobody is there for hours. 3 hours ago, orange22 said: Yes I’ve always wondered if it was per capita or if it really is just a giant streaming farm. It would make sense either way - they probably need some form of local economy.
Literature Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Eternium said: Using 3 devices, you can pretty easily make some 21.9M in a year. That’s pretty huge, sis. 30 devices alone could do 219M. Get 300 and now you have 2.19B streams. How? There's only 525,000 minutes in a year. Thats just 175k streams for a song per device over the course of an entire year, or 1 million streams if you somehow get the device to skip after 30 seconds. How did you get 22M streams in a year for 3 devices
Eternium Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Literature said: How? There's only 525,000 minutes in a year. Thats just 175k streams for a song per device over the course of an entire year, or 1 million streams if you somehow get the device to skip after 30 seconds. How did you get 22M streams in a year for 3 devices You can open multiple tabs at one time and sign into them with different accounts. If you literally just follow most “[insert artist here] Streaming Updates” or “[insert artist here] Streaming Support” on Twitter, they’ll send you a private message on how to manipulate Spotify streams. Spotify doesn’t edit them out, either. I’ve never personally done it, but it has completely destroyed my faith in streams and the legitimacy of the current music market.
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