When it comes to SPS she will unless Madonna gets an streaming catalog boost in the future which I doubt

 

She obviously isn't touching her pure sales though.

Yes. She will surpass her tour stats as well 

Yes, with talent instead of shock value stunts 

1 hour ago, Blackout2006 said:

No.

Maybe in sales, yea. It is anyway easy to outsell influential and remarkable acts when you release 10 records and 3 re-recorded efforts in 16 years (Madonna has put out 14 albums in over 3 decades, to give you an idea of what I am talking about). However, like someone once said, there are two eras. Pre-Madonna and post-Madonna. She was, is and will always be the most important, influential and iconic female artist of all time.

 

In Madonna’s first 16 years she put on 8 records, 3 soundtracks (Who’s That Girl, Dick Tracy and Evita) and 3 compilations (You Can Dance, Immaculate Collection, Something to Remember). She only really started slowing down in the 2010s. 
 

Taylor is very industrious but it’s only in the last couple of years that she’s upped her output to more than once every 2-3 years. Madonna was averaging out a record a year from 83-2000. 

21 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

In Madonna’s first 16 years she put on 8 records, 3 soundtracks (Who’s That Girl, Dick Tracy and Evita) and 3 compilations (You Can Dance, Immaculate Collection, Something to Remember). She only really started slowing down in the 2010s. 
 

Taylor is very industrious but it’s only in the last couple of years that she’s upped her output to more than once every 2-3 years. Madonna was averaging out a record a year from 83-2000. 

That's fair but Taylor has been churning out much more efforts at a quicker pace since this decade. She has released 5 efforts which already has quickly accelerated her record sales. Otherwise, her pre-Folklore record sales were still not even being considered of outselling Madonna.

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Yes. Obviously impact wise it's impossible to surpass Madonna since she's the one who started it all, but on terms of name and power - she's the one

not a question of will but WHEN

She will in terms of record sales thanks to streaming in the US. 

 

She will never surpass Madonna globally, though. 

She will probably end up outselling her in total units and so will Rihanna. But what about that? Madonna will still be Madonna. With mass influence that is woven into not only pop culture but the very fabric of society, she is one living pop superstar for whom I know the impact of her existence will long outlive her. I can't quite say the same for the vast majority of other living famous people, especially these young pop stars. 

 

It's perfectly fine to tout the merits and achievements of the current icons without trivializing Madonna's legacy by asking redundant "will so and so surpass Madonna?". I could see if Madonna was just about sales and figures and stat sheets but that's not the point of Madonna, like at all. When she leaves this earthly realm, all her hundreds of millions of sales will be but a footnote. 

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You will need much more than chart numbers and sales to surpass Madonna. 

3 minutes ago, Sahn said:

You will need much more than chart numbers and sales to surpass Madonna. 

We can't discuss yet about impact, influence and legacy. It's too soon to conclude especially for Taylor, only time will tell. But in commercial department, it seem more and more likely that Taylor can be a serious threat.

 

Per ChartMasters, Taylor is like 120M SPS behind Madonna, that's huge gap. But when we consider the fact Taylor is pulling like 12M-15M SPS yearly, it is doable. Taylor won't slow down in fact her momentum is getting stronger, and Midnight is solid prove that she won't be a fad anytime soon. Now we still have four re-records to be released and new studio albums in the future, so yeah it is not delusional think that Taylor might be the biggest female artist of all time.

Sales wise, maybe in the US.

 

Impact wise? Hell no 

I see a lot of delusion in this post, to surpass Madonna commercially Taylor needs to sell what she has sold in her career today, which I see impossible and quite unlikely

madonna kinda ruined her legacy but not her stats obviously

madonna her cultural impact is pretty much eroded by now it won't be hard for taylor to destroy her in that department as well

Madonna is around 540M units while Taylor is in the 400M range , she will easily do it 

 

 

well let's see

 

Warner will be fixing her streaming and recertifying so who knows what Madonna's number will be

 

 

it takes a certain level of stupid to think that a few Instagram filters would erase 40 years of cultural impact.