Just now, pieceofgök said:

How hard is it to grasp

 

Yes artist yes more albums is YES more units on an UNITS chart covering someones ENTIRE discography. What is so hard to understand, really? Please enlighten me. 

And notice how you ignored multiple posters showing you that in 2019 she topped the chart with one album 

5 minutes ago, Insanity said:

i dont care to argue anymore its pointless

So leave omfg 

Just now, pieceofgök said:

The way you make it seem like ''Directioner'' is an insult is so weird. I'm not a even a fan of them or have never cared for them but this is just plain WEIRD

The fact that it's not offensive because I was, indeed, "a Directioner" for three solid years (2012-2015) and the band had some bangers is the worst part. They can call me "Directioner" till they run out of breath it does not faze me in the slightest. Harry still sings WMYB and I still shake my ass to it during his concerts.

 

2 minutes ago, Headlock said:

IFPI being made up achievements 

Your logic being...?

It's the fact that you need to reach to Taylor's back catalogue to compete with current artists to prove that... she's not being outsold by current artists. Which if you pay attention close to the last sentence, means that she is being outsold by current artists. But everyone that's following the conversation who isn't a Swizzle fan can see it, so I don't think anyone is bothering to prove it anymore. Because it's pointless. You are going to act clueless about this forgone conclusion forever even though you know it's the truth because antes muerta que admitir que Harry Styles outsold.

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

And notice how you ignored multiple posters showing you that in 2019 she topped the chart with one album 

So where is The Beatles's 2019 album if that chart only covers one album released?  

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

The fact that it's not offensive because I was, indeed, "a Directioner" for three solid years (2012-2015)

This. This is exactly the reason, because you are stuck in those years, both in your view of the the pop world and in your maturity level  Thank you for proving my point 

 

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

It's the fact that you need to reach to Taylor's back catalogue to compete with current artists to prove that... she's not being outsold by current artists.

That... is literally how charts work 

 

2 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

So where is The Beatles's 2019 album if that chart only covers one album released?  

Lennon and Harrison wrote it via Ouija board.

 

Notice how they now call me "Styles fan" maybe they're scared Harry will pass Taylor's CSPC total at some point now that I can count 70M and he's still selling well? Don't worry @HeadlockI don't think he will because Swizzle is gonna keep putting out half a dozen albums per year calendar, you're safe, you can go back to try to shade me with your cringy gifs and unfunny namecalling 

4 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

So where is The Beatles's 2019 album if that chart only covers one album released?  

Now you're playing dumb to the point? Truly, can you come up with something else 

First, it's only because she released five albums that she topped the chart, now that she does it with only one you move the goalposts again 

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

This. This is exactly the reason, because you are stuck in those years, both in your view of the the pop world and in your maturity level  Thank you for proving my point 

 

That... is literally how charts work 

 

SO you agree? Her entire discography is being counted on that chart and not just one album? So you agree that by logic it only makes sense that Taylor moved more UNITS on a chart that counts someone's entire discography when they've released six more albums than some of the artists on the chart?

 

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

Now you're playing dumb to the point? Truly, can you come up with something else 

First, it's only because she released five albums that she topped the chart, now that she does it with only one you move the goalposts again 

The way you're gaslighting me into thinking I AM the one who brought up the ''one album'' argument. WHEW you are something else. You are dedicated though, I'll give you that 

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

Lennon and Harrison wrote it via Ouija board.

 

Notice how they now call me "Styles fan" maybe they're scared Harry will pass Taylor's CSPC total at some point now that I can count 70M and he's still selling well? Don't worry @HeadlockI don't think he will because Swizzle is gonna keep putting out half a dozen albums per year calendar, you're safe, you can go back to try to shade me with your cringy gifs and unfunny namecalling 

I literally could not give less of a **** about Harry cishet Styles omfg, hence me telling you to go talk about his Bowie-lite ass somewhere else 

16 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

Yeah cause an artist chart that counts units for an artist who was at her seventh album vs artists who are at their first or second is soooo fair and logical hang it up Swifties you look a MESS

It is when two different artists are compared, which was the case here 
If you don't want to compare artists, don't bring them up, it's that simple.

8 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

How hard is it to grasp

 

Yes artist yes more albums is YES more units on an UNITS chart covering someones ENTIRE discography. What is so hard to understand, really? Please enlighten me. 

Except that's not the truth.

 

A larger catalog does NOT guarantee you a higher placement on the IFPI chart and there are plenty of examples proving this over the years…

 

Adele

#1 in 2015 (with 3 albums)

#3 in 2021 (with 4 albums)

 

Billie Eilish

#4 in 2017 (with 1 album)

#7 in 2021 (with 2 albums)

 

Colpay

#3 in 2016 (with 7 albums)

N/A in 2021 (with 9 albums)

 

Drake

#1 in 2016 (with 4 albums)

#4 in 2021 (with 6 albums)

 

Ed Sheeran

#1 in 2017 (with 3 albums)

#5 in 2021 (with 5 albums)

 

Justin Bieber

#4 in 2015 (with 4 albums)

#8 in 2021 (with 6 albums)

 

One Direction

#1 in 2013 (with 3 albums)

#5 in 2015 (with 5 albums)

 

 

As you can see, all these artists declined on the list the more albums they released.

All these examples just show how it is NOT the norm for you to perform better on this all-unit chart with a larger catalog.

2 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

The way you're gaslighting me into thinking I AM the one who brought up the ''one album'' argument. WHEW you are something else. You are dedicated though, I'll give you that 

 

5 hours ago, pieceofgök said:

How do Swifties still not get that Taylor does well on an artist chart because she released FIVE projects if you include long pond sessions since 2020. But when we bring that up it’s ‘you’re just pressed your fave doesn’t work as hard as Taylord’ 

 

You can never win with Swifties. They don’t battle with logic they battle with standards they make up themselves and they change them constantly to feed their own narrative. Anything to make sure another female artist doesn’t get credit cause god forbid women can co-exist and slay together

 

Too easy 

 

And the way you just did it again in the post before:

4 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

SO you agree? Her entire discography is being counted on that chart and not just one album? So you agree that by logic it only makes sense that Taylor moved more UNITS on a chart that counts someone's entire discography when they've released six more albums than some of the artists on the chart?

 

Just now, Headlock said:

This. This is exactly the reason, because you are stuck in those years, both in your view of the the pop world and in your maturity level  Thank you for proving my point 

 

Babes I wasn't paying attention to the charts in 2012, I was 14 years old  and "view of the pop world"? Huh? I don't dislike Taylor because she dated Harry, please let that strange notion go. I think Olivia Wilde is a goddess, I loved Camille Rowe, I even low key have a crush on Kendall Jenner. My problem with Taylor Swift is her personality (and I don't like her music). Not that she and Harry dated for 3 months when Harry was a teenager. Perhaps that's your problem with Harry, and if so, stop projecting your issues on other people I literally couldn't give less of a f*ck.

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That... is literally how charts work 

No, it's not. That's how THAT chart works. The IFPI artists chart counts global sales for every artist during a calendar year counting their entire catalogue. It's the only chart that works that way, which is why it's the only chart Taylor topped in 2019 (she did well on pure sales as well, but IFPI took way too long to include streams in their albums chart, they didn't until 2020). Billie Eilish destroyed Taylor that year, and a lot of other artists did better as well (Post Malone, for instance).

 

But you know this, you're just playing dumb because you don't want to admit she's currently being outsold by multiple artists. Which she is.

1 minute ago, Feanor said:

It is when two different artists are compared, which was the case here 
If you don't want to compare artists, don't bring them up, it's that simple.

Except that's not the truth.

 

A larger catalog does NOT guarantee you a higher placement on the IFPI chart and there are plenty of examples proving this over the years…

 

Adele

#1 in 2015 (with 3 albums)

#3 in 2021 (with 4 albums)

 

Billie Eilish

#4 in 2017 (with 1 album)

#7 in 2021 (with 2 albums)

 

Colpay

#3 in 2016 (with 7 albums)

N/A in 2021 (with 9 albums)

 

Drake

#1 in 2016 (with 4 albums)

#4 in 2021 (with 6 albums)

 

Ed Sheeran

#1 in 2017 (with 3 albums)

#5 in 2021 (with 5 albums)

 

Justin Bieber

#4 in 2015 (with 4 albums)

#8 in 2021 (with 6 albums)

 

One Direction

#1 in 2013 (with 3 albums)

#5 in 2015 (with 5 albums)

 

 

As you can see, all these artists declined on the list the more albums they released.

All these examples just show how it is NOT the norm for you to perform better on this all-unit chart with a larger catalog.

If I'm not mistaken Billie has a decline in Spotify streams despite releasing new album in 2021 compared to previous year so yeah, not every artist can experience boost in their disco after having more albums 

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

Babes I wasn't paying attention to the charts in 2012, I was 14 years old 

The way you just keep proving my point *chef's kiss*  This is literally my point, you BEHAVE like you still are 14 years old 

I could copy paste your posts into a tumblr from 2013 and they wouldn't be out of place at all 

 

2 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

But you know this, you're just playing dumb because you don't want to admit she's currently being outsold by multiple artists. Which she is.

Can't wait for her to chart above artists apparently outselling her next year 

11 minutes ago, Insanity said:

Im  going to say this once because you say that everyone else doesnt seem to understand logic but its actually the other way around @More Than A Melody and @pieceofgök have provided plenty of proof to their claims that i dont need to but of course Swifites are stubborn as hell and wont listen to logic or reason.  And it makes sense Taylor has enabled her fans to openly bully others, Jake Gylenhaal for instance.  How are you to know any better when ur fave is bully herself and gets herself i nthe middle of drama all the time with constant feuds

But you apparently don't care anymore 

17 minutes ago, Headlock said:

And notice how you ignored multiple posters showing you that in 2019 she topped the chart with one album 

YOU made it seem like as if the IFPI chart only counts one album and yet you're trying to spin it as if i started that argument. This is getting sad really 

3 minutes ago, Feanor said:

It is when two different artists are compared, which was the case here 
If you don't want to compare artists, don't bring them up, it's that simple.

Except that's not the truth.

 

A larger catalog does NOT guarantee you a higher placement on the IFPI chart and there are plenty of examples proving this over the years…

 

Adele

#1 in 2015 (with 3 albums)

#3 in 2021 (with 4 albums)

 

Billie Eilish

#4 in 2017 (with 1 album)

#7 in 2021 (with 2 albums)

 

Colpay

#3 in 2016 (with 7 albums)

N/A in 2021 (with 9 albums)

 

Drake

#1 in 2016 (with 4 albums)

#4 in 2021 (with 6 albums)

 

Ed Sheeran

#1 in 2017 (with 3 albums)

#5 in 2021 (with 5 albums)

 

Justin Bieber

#4 in 2015 (with 4 albums)

#8 in 2021 (with 6 albums)

 

One Direction

#1 in 2013 (with 3 albums)

#5 in 2015 (with 5 albums)

 

 

As you can see, all these artists declined on the list the more albums they released.

All these examples just show how it is NOT the norm for you to perform better on this all-unit chart with a larger catalog.

Who said it's guaranteed? By this token, Taylor  Swift "declined" in 2017 when she was #3 despite having released a new album and previously having been #1... And in 2020 when she went from #1 to #2 despite releasing 2 albums.

 

The point is that a January-December chart that counts artists' entire catalogue does not measure how the artists' current projects are doing as opposed to other artists' current projects, which is what I said. To do that, you have to compare project by project. And comparing project by project, you have to use CSPC. And using CSPC Taylor is being outsold by multiple artists currently. And no one needs to "hide behind Adele" which was what set off this entire argument. And looking at the IFPI artists' chart, clearly nobody was using Adele to hide behind considering she only topped the chart once since the chart has existed (8 years).

 

So what are you even trying to argue?

26 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

You use CSPC when it's convenient for you, IFPI pure sales when it's convenient for you, IFPI artists' chart when it's convenient for you, and so forth (never global all formats, for some strange reason). It's never consistent what kind of receipts you use because you bend and twist to whatever fits your argument that day.

I used IFPI artist list in an argument about which artist is bigger. You are the one using albums or excluding them in a conversation about artists. Make it make sense. 

 

32 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

The argument here is: multiple artists nowadays are currently aka with their current projects outselling Taylor Swift

And Taylor is moving more units hence why she is bigger artist. I am not going to exclude 1989's 4M daily streams because it is not convenient for you. That's saying like The Weeknd is not even among top 20 biggest artists right now because Dawn FM tanked. There is nothing to argue about that. 

 

31 minutes ago, Headlock said:

* @Artistofthedecade uses objective stats to argue their point*

"Logic literally doesn't exist for them" 

*claims that Taylor is only high in IFPI list because she spams*

 

*i post 2019 stats back to him to show otherwise*

 

*he opens a thread about "most obsessed fanbases with stats" and quotes first post mentioning Swifties*

 

*talks about notorious fooolish behaviour*

the anger

 

let it out I guess…

1 minute ago, pieceofgök said:

YOU made it seem like as if the IFPI chart only counts one album and yet you're trying to spin it as if i started that argument. This is getting sad really 

...what?  The way you completely ignored me clocking you moment ago :

8 minutes ago, Headlock said:

 

 

Too easy 

 

And the way you just did it again in the post before:

 

Sad indeed 

2 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

I used IFPI artist list in an argument about which artist is bigger. You are the one using albums or excluding them in a conversation about artists. Make it make sense. 

 

And Taylor is moving more units hence why she is bigger artist. I am not going to exclude 1989's 4M daily streams because it is not convenient for you. That's saying like The Weeknd is not even among top 20 biggest artists right now because Dawn FM tanked. There is nothing to argue about that. 

 

*claims that Taylor is only high in IFPI list because she spams*

 

*i post 2019 stats back to him to show otherwise*

 

*he opens a thread about "most obsessed fanbases with stats" and quotes first post mentioning Swifties*

 

*talks about notorious fooolish behaviour*

Omg this is just getting sad... you truly live in your own made up fantasy world. I hope it helps I guess. Hope it makes you feel better. Just keep saying it out loud. Maybe you'll convince hope 

This is truly one of the stalest rancidest vanilla feuds I’ve ever witnessed. You ******* are FRIED

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2 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

I used IFPI artist list in an argument about which artist is bigger. You are the one using albums or excluding them in a conversation about artists. Make it make sense. 

 

And Taylor is moving more units hence why she is bigger artist. I am not going to exclude 1989's 4M daily streams because it is not convenient for you. That's saying like The Weeknd is not even among top 20 biggest artists right now because Dawn FM tanked. There is nothing to argue about that. 

 

*claims that Taylor is only high in IFPI list because she spams*

 

*i post 2019 stats back to him to show otherwise*

 

*he opens a thread about "most obsessed fanbases with stats" and quotes first post mentioning Swifties*

 

*talks about notorious fooolish behaviour*

The fact that they're literally proving the point of this thread, which is that none of these OTHs give a flying **** about Adele and just use anything the can to try and get at Taylor

 

4 minutes ago, Headlock said:

The way you just keep proving my point *chef's kiss*  This is literally my point, you BEHAVE like you still are 14 years old 

I could copy paste your posts into a tumblr from 2013 and they wouldn't be out of place at all 

Can't wait for her to chart above artists apparently outselling her next year 

You just say things, like, whatever comes to your mind to try to get a dig in. You don't provide arguments at all, you're just a wannabe meangirl, constantly attacking other posters and using personal insults when they disagree with you. You really think you're doing something with this, it's actually really sad to witness.