20 minutes ago, Kimi said:

Chromatica being bigger than artpop is the biggest lie LM tell themselves

 

ARTPOP  - 5M units

Chromatica - 3.8M

Joanne - 3.5M

 

Chrom is just slightly above Joanne. Touring is a reflection of who she as an artist not that specific album, lets not be dumb. Overall units - chromatica is not touching artpop

maybe it will get there someday. in the end they are both fantastic dance albums

 

I didnt know Joanne sold that much honestly 

1 minute ago, Kimi said:

born this way would've been #1 if she finished the tour.

the way she had to cancel the day before my show 

I will never see Fashion of his GOD live 

15 minutes ago, CovalentBondage said:

 

 

If this is true.... 

 

 

so close! this is the Gaga base boo 

Applause is not bigger than Rain On Me sorry that's pure delusion. Crowds of swifties knowing the chorus doesn't change its recurrent streams and that albums overall abysmal impact. Chrom has at least 3 singles that actually made a dent regardless of whether some people wanna be delulu about it or not, vs' ARTPOP's 1.5 singles 

3 minutes ago, WildAmerican said:

so close! this is the Gaga base boo 

Meant to include no way gaga is announcing next week if KP is dropping. She would never revive that stan war. 

10 minutes ago, Kimi said:

So a fun idea, Gagas tour and residencies grosses but adjusted for inflation

 

1. Monster Ball - 308M

2. Born This Way Ball - 240M

3. Joanne Tour - 115M

4. Chromatica Ball - 112M

5. artRAVE: the ARTPOP ball - 106M

6. Enigma - 97M

7. Cheek To Cheek Tour - 19M

8. The Fame Ball - 4.5M

9. Roseland Ballroom - 1.9M

 

Joanne really won at the end huh

 

 

Tbf, Joanne *only* made 3M more than TCB with 2.5x the amount of dates. Contextually, TCB is the more successful/ impressive tour (especially with it being all-stadium).

3 hours ago, TheHanyo said:

CHROMATICA - after the massive success of ASIB, she abandoned all those new fans and tried to release a "return to form" that no one was asking for except her aging gay fanbase.

Its also already free-falling again after its tour being aired WW to millions, its marketing had to be collabs.  this was not a hit project with any demographic beyond the gays and one single

Edited June 6, 20242 yr by Mr. Stratus

13 minutes ago, Kimi said:

So a fun idea, Gagas tour and residencies grosses but adjusted for inflation

 

1. Monster Ball - 308M

2. Born This Way Ball - 240M

3. Joanne Tour - 115M

4. Chromatica Ball - 112M

5. artRAVE: the ARTPOP ball - 106M

6. Enigma - 97M

7. Cheek To Cheek Tour - 19M

8. The Fame Ball - 4.5M

9. Roseland Ballroom - 1.9M

 

Joanne really won at the end huh

 

 

This is beyond flawed.

Applause is definitely bigger than ROM I fear, especially if you consider one of them is a decade old 

Not the internal wars before the era starts  are yall practicing and preparipg for the imminent wars with other bases that will happen in a few weeks? Who are we fighting this time? Katy Cats? Swifties? Beehive? Adelephants? 

4 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Applause is not bigger than Rain On Me sorry that's pure delusion. Crowds of swifties knowing the chorus doesn't change its recurrent streams and that albums overall abysmal impact. Chrom has at least 3 singles that actually made a dent regardless of whether some people wanna be delulu about it or not, vs' ARTPOP's 1.5 singles 

Kworb:

Applause- 345,019 streams

Rain On Me- 314,430 streams

 

 

Both are obliterating Sh*t My Pants, let's celebrate that 

3 hours ago, Aden said:

Context is important when ranking Gaga's albums in terms of overall success.

 

ARTPOP has sold more SPS than Chromatica and Joanne but the entire dropped like a dead body after Applause, it's the closest she has to a panned record, and the arena tour barely scraped $83 million.

 

Joanne sold more in the US, but it's global numbers ain't it and she needed to perform the era's only hit 50x plus at a halftime show just to get to the top 5. The record also had mixed reviews. The arena tour accomplished a respectable $95 million but the album's longevity is basically MR's streams.

 

Chromatica earned Gaga her first pop #1 since Born This Way, had a #5 peaking lead despite being leaked months in advance, won a Grammy, earned her the strongest first-week debut since 2013, is one of her most acclaimed albums, has had better longevity than the other two records, and had a record-breaking stadium tour that grossed $120 million with a tenth of the dates the other tours had.

 

Objectively speaking, this is the correct ranking of her most recent albums' performances:

1. Chromatica

2. ARTPOP

3. Joanne

Agree but if you're going to mention Chrome's Grammy, you should mention Joanne's as well. And Joanne is #2 if we're talking about US only, btw 

4 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Applause is not bigger than Rain On Me sorry that's pure delusion. Crowds of swifties knowing the chorus doesn't change its recurrent streams and that albums overall abysmal impact. Chrom has at least 3 singles that actually made a dent regardless of whether some people wanna be delulu about it or not, vs' ARTPOP's 1.5 singles 

ROM was frontloaded and its streams reflect that since Applause is above it, the other two simply bombed. Calling SL a hit just because it peaked at number 5 makes no sense since it left the charts after like a month and no one is streaming it. Steve Lacy's song peaked at number 78 but it has 1.3B streams. Peaks don't mean ****.

3 hours ago, TSwiftie said:

The thought of another hag era after ASIB... Please be serious

She should've went glam rock ala PH but I agree that Chrome was a better follow up to ASIB than another HAG coded era 

37 minutes ago, Aston Martin said:

When LG7 is Cowboy Germanotta and it bombs too then what

****** **** = Cowboy Gaga?

3 hours ago, TheHanyo said:

- CHROMATICA - after the massive success of ASIB, she abandoned all those new fans and tried to release a "return to form" that no one was asking for except her aging gay fanbase. She should have made an Adele-like album after ASIB 

If those "new fans" were so significant and meant that she needed to chase AC success, then why did L4S underperform and HMH outright bomb?

 

The people she got with ASIB are split between the country crowd (which is large), and a smaller, older, more conservative crowd that will casually support her here and there- hence her doing so well targeting the high rollers in Vegas. But there's no reason to assume that either one is her new core audience, or that she should abandon her old fans to go for some new people who can't be fully counted on and when targeted by her, don't even move that many units for her music.

 

Chromatica was her delivering what her core fanbase was begging for after years of pursuing other avenues. Considering that they've been the backbone of her career through thick and thin, it was a smart business move even if the sound and safeness of it didn't fully connect outside of her fans. Chromatica allowed her to appease her main audience and, with collabs, start to reestablish herself with a new pop audience. Which worked, considering the viral success of her back pop catalog and BM becoming a legitimate hit. It moved like 7M units in America, and none of her more AC stuff can say that other than Shallow.

It's always a kii when people drag her "aging gay fanbase" to argue that she should go full-Celine and become a traditional AC act, when if she did that, she'd be pandering to 70 year-olds in nursing homes. 

19 minutes ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

It's always a kii when people drag her "aging gay fanbase" to argue that she should go full-Celine and become a traditional AC act, when if she did that, she'd be pandering to 70 year-olds in nursing homes. 

Yep it's born this way along with some songs from the fame monster that had allowed gen-Z rediscovering her on tik tok that allowed too see Gaga as a cool girl again. If chromatica didn't start the ball rolling I can't imagen Gaga would be seen the same right now if she did another hag era after ASIB. 

Applause is way bigger than ROM  It stayed in top 10 for 13 weeks, how long did ROM stay in the top 100?  

1 hour ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

When that LA lunch with Gesaffelstein was for shopping new instrumentals for future HL #ads 

 

 

 

Omg my edit, forgot about this one💀

Emmy voting in 1 week

Just now, Happylittlepunk said:

Yep it's born this way along with some songs from the fame monster that had allowed gen-Z rediscovering her on tik tok that allowed too see Gaga as a cool girl again. If chromatica didn't start the ball rolling I can't imagen Gaga would be seen the same right now if she did another hag era after ASIB. 

not too much on Chromatica, but it wasn't Chromatica that led gen-Z to re-discover Gaga. Gaga was nonevent on tiktok until late 2022. During that time period Judas and BloodyMary played big part in it.

 

Crediting tiktok discovery to Chromatica is same as Joanne stans saying "Joanne walk so ASIB could run". 

 

 

23 minutes ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

If those "new fans" were so significant and meant that she needed to chase AC success, then why did L4S underperform and HMH outright bomb?

Liddos can attack her side projects (the one that got her in the AOTY picture, or back to the Oscars after the horrid snub) as much as they want, but it won't change the fact she has no other pop song released in the past decade to hit 400m streams overall on Spotify apart from an Ariana collab

 

Seeing as HMH is joining INLA and MR in doing this she should pander to AC fans and be able to compete with Katy and Miley

3 minutes ago, JapaneseMommy said:

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