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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Also theres in indirect effect going on: When Beyonce went #1 with THE as a black artist, topped the Country charts both with THE and the album, it showed that the world and especially the US are capable of embracing Black musicians in that genre. This open-mindedness further fueled the appreciation for Shaboozey

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as someone previously mentioned i think the worst part is the obvious lack of the "big masterplan" everyone swore would unfold… cause when you're two albums into a 3 act project and you STILL don't know anything, nothing's explained and nothing's happening either i think it's safe to admit that they have no clue what they're doing or simply don't care enough to do it right :rip:

 

even if there's some big film to tie all of it together there's no reason to not release more singles and do more with the era you're in right now. and even a whole film won't make these eras any less botched anyways, it'll be a too little too late kinda situation… 

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The album cover being shot in March is how I know there's no masterplan 

The album will cross 1 billion streams on Spotify in 1.5-2 weeks

1 hour ago, Machete said:

 

Not to be that person but Shaboozey's song already went viral on TikTok when he posted the snippet of it before he was ever announced to be on Cowboy Carter. It had about 15K videos pre-release. And it's not like his songs on Cowboy Carter were standout moments/popular tracks where he got an audience (outside of Twitter Hive thirsting).
 

So yeah it does feel kinda wrong in my opinion to credit his success right now to Bey. Of course, I've seen he himself post about being thankful to her so that's his prerogative (her call months ago asking him to be on the album probably inspired him as an artist and pushed him to keep going etc.), but this specific song was definitely going to be big whether or not he was on the album.

 

The biggest hater in this thread. A paid mole! 
I can't wait for the media blitz when he hits #1 and every discussion is about Beyoncé. I know you will suffer.

Anyone denying her effect on Shaboozeys career is wild :rip:

 

15k videos on TikTok is NOT viral

Anyway

 

II HANDS II HEAVEN is picking up on TikTok, it'll pass Bodyguard soon in total videos, which is impressive considering it was one with some of the lowest numbers

 

Streaming numbers are low though

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Just now, sillycilla said:

I figured she wasn't going to hit 80m monthly listeners without a second single smash. :gaycat6:

I thought she'd hit it

 

Bodyguard could put her there, tbh.   It could truly smash globally

1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

I thought she'd hit it

 

Bodyguard could put her there, tbh.   It could truly smash globally

It could, but will it even be released or given proper treatment? It's the hold up of this album. That or Levii could be an irreplaceable type smash imo. 
 

Also Willie Jones was spotted at stagecoach wearing a Cowboy Carter "always been country" shirt. We will see if it means anything.

7 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

It could, but will it even be released or given proper treatment? It's the hold up of this album. That or Levii could be an irreplaceable type smash imo. 
 

Also Willie Jones was spotted at stagecoach wearing a Cowboy Carter "always been country" shirt. We will see if it means anything.

She wont do anything with it, it's apparent.  It would have to hit on its own, which I doubt it will.

 

My fingers are crossed for today!

3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I mean truth be told: Bey is doing EXACTLY what she set out to do and wants to do - to use her platform and status as a means of service. She wants to push conversations (which she successfully does with each release), she wants to broaden the concept of what a popstar can do (which she successfully does) and she wants to erase stigma and institutionalized racism towards black musicians (which she successfully does).

 

I am 100% convinced that Bey is smiling from one ear to the ear seeing Shaboozeys rise. That must feel so incredibly validating to her, so much more validating than her own success because it means she serves as a catalyst of change.

To put it bluntly: Taylor can sell millions and generate billions of streams which are all incredible individual feats to her career, but when Beyonce becomes the reason Black Country artists are seeing huge success in a white-dominated genre that has been gatekeeping black musicians, that literally trumps all of Taylor's achievements.

 

THAT is legacy.

Why say this :rip:

not to be that person but...

 

she really needs to drop some crisp 4K HD visuals for anything to really pick up at this point. now whether that's a lovely live performance with Miley, or a music video for Bodyguard, or LEVII'S JEANS performance with Post, that's up to her. 

 

the TikTok's and IG Reel's with her husband don't count. the Canva visualizer for II MOST WANTED doesn't, either.

51 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Anyone denying her effect on Shaboozeys career is wild :rip:

 

15k videos on TikTok is NOT viral

15K for an unreleased song is a lot. His two songs on CC aren't even the GP faves but you think Bey is the reason he's getting a #4 peaking song which is going to end up bigger than anything on CC :rip:

 

Go to the sound usage on TikTok and you will see the audience is NOT the same as the people using that II HANDS II HEAVEN "trend" or still discussing anything about CC :rip:

 

If me saying this song smashing isn't Bey impact makes me a paid mole, then someone hand me my salary :bird:

12 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

Why say this :rip:

Why not? Im not afraid of an army of teenagers and I will speak my truth. In MY opinion, thats the way it is

 

:suburban:

3 minutes ago, Machete said:

15K for an unreleased song is a lot. His two songs on CC aren't even the GP faves but you think Bey is the reason he's getting a #4 peaking song which is going to end up bigger than anything on CC :rip:

 

Go to the sound usage on TikTok and you will see the audience is NOT the same as the people using that II HANDS II HEAVEN "trend" or still discussing anything about CC :rip:

 

If me saying this song smashing isn't Bey impact makes me a paid mole, then someone hand me my salary :bird:

The exaggeration when THE is still part of CC and its impossible for Shaboozey to rule the WORLD like THE did. Nice try, mole

 

:suburban:

The problem with this fanbase is the constant expectations yall create for yourselves. It's been almost a decade that Bey has been drop and stop when it comes to promo. 
 

She never promised more singles, more promo or even visuals at all. That's why she hasn't addressed anything, she doesn't wanna give false hope.

 

If yall set yourselves up for more that's on you. 
 

Her passion is clearly just in the creation process of the album. She will continue to drop, let the music speak for itself and we'll have to accept that or move on

14 minutes ago, Iaintsorry said:

The problem with this fanbase is the constant expectations yall create for yourselves. It's been almost a decade that Bey has been drop and stop when it comes to promo. 
 

She never promised more singles, more promo or even visuals at all. That's why she hasn't addressed anything, she doesn't wanna give false hope.

 

If yall set yourselves up for more that's on you. 
 

Her passion is clearly just in the creation process of the album. She will continue to drop, let the music speak for itself and we'll have to accept that or move on

This is all true

 

BUT she did tell us visuals were coming

30 minutes ago, kimberly said:

not to be that person but...

 

she really needs to drop some crisp 4K HD visuals for anything to really pick up at this point. now whether that's a lovely live performance with Miley, or a music video for Bodyguard, or LEVII'S JEANS performance with Post, that's up to her. 

 

the TikTok's and IG Reel's with her husband don't count. the Canva visualizer for II MOST WANTED doesn't, either.

This! This! This!  
 

Not Kimberly becoming apart of marketing hive.

 

Best Friend Fist Bump GIF by ABC Network

 

 

4 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

And with Shaboozey going #1 soon, labels are going to be even hungrier. 

Is he really going #1? That would be amazing!

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

This! This! This!  
 

Not Kimberly becoming apart of marketing hive.

 

Best Friend Fist Bump GIF by ABC Network

I've always been marketing hive tbh... it's just that I'm not a complainer.

 

whether she decides to do something or let the album crash on every streaming platform without lifting a finger, it's still out, had 2 weeks at #1, and is a phenomenal record. anything on top of that would be fan service and boost her numbers, but she's gonna do what she's gonna do.

 

it'll be all her fault when Jay Z collab album for act iii reclaiming hip hop debuts at #2 with 105k units.

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