FAN Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Harry #1 hopefully he can hold The Weeknd off until Monday but I’m not sure. Billie back on the rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Pop Art said: It's not that radio's influence is increasing per se, but that the decrease in impact of streaming has increased the power of radio at the moment if that makes sense. Let's look at the below example. Sales are being ignored to make it easier. Since I don't know how Billboard actually calculates these things, let's assume 1M streams = 1 point and 1M AI also equals 1 point. (I know it's not even close to that, just using it for ease of showing the point.) Normal Circumstances Song A: 45M streams (45 points) + 37M AI (37 points) = 82 points Song B: 25M steams (25 points) + 56M AI (56 points) = 81 points Song C: 10M streams (10 points) + 70M AI (70 points) = 80 points Here it's clear that Song A would be #1, Song B would be #2, and Song 3 would be #3. But if we then reduce the amount of streams as we're seeing now (let's say a 10% drop in streams across the board to make it simple) yet keep the same radio AI since that hasn't been affected yet... Pandemic Circumstances Song A: 40.5M streams (40.5 points) + 37M AI (37 points) = 77.5 points Song B: 22.5M streams (22.5 points) + 56M AI (56 points) = 78.5 points Song C: 9M streams (9 points) + 70M AI (70 points) = 79 points As you can see, a whole different ranking is established. Again, this is incredibly simplified and I know it won't exactly result in these sweeping changes in reality, but I think it's clear each radio spin is more powerful on the Hot 100 right now than it was just two weeks ago. I agree with you though that readjusting radio AI to also be lower across the board would just bring everything back to normal, that's why I was wondering if/when they'll do that. They won't change anything. When singles sales died in late 2001 the hot 100 basically became the Radio Songs chart. At least songs are still getting streams/sales even when they are still down so the Hot 100 won't be a copy of the Radio Songs chart like in 2002-2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Art Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Green said: They won't change anything. When singles sales died in late 2001 the hot 100 basically became the Radio Songs chart. At least songs are still getting streams/sales even when they are still down so the Hot 100 won't be a copy of the Radio Songs chart like in 2002-2004. Wait that's true. Welp, guess we're getting a slightly radio fueled Hot 100 for the time being. Glad my fave is (shockingly) doing best at radio right now between the three metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Is Roddy's team battling Abel Who tf wants to hear The Box this late though? It'll be on power rotation in the summer if it continued to grow. Didnt it hit #1 in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCTV Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Armani? said: Is Roddy's team battling Abel Who tf wants to hear The Box this late though? It'll be on power rotation in the summer if it continued to grow. Didnt it hit #1 in January I've been saying Pop Radio is gonna latch on late and that it had 98m AI with barely any pop AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, farixgaga said: We should expect a lower update tomorrow tho? She will be rolling over last Friday's update. Since she didn't have a radio deal I don't think its spins will decrease much tomorrow tbh, any tea on this? Thanks It didn't have a deal (I think), so I think it's okay for BMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricdrocr Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 My Oh My is really coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 OVERALL 1. Dua Lipa - "Don't Start Now" 134.76 (-0.42) 2. The Weeknd - "Blinding Lights" 129.54 (+3.14) 3. Post Malone - "Circles" 122.16 (-1.06) 4. Harry Styles - "Adore You" 117.66 (+1.40) 5. Billie Eilish - "everything i wanted" 102.76 (+1.26) 6 (+1) Roddy Ricch - "The Box" 98.02 (+0.34) 7 (-1) Maroon 5 - "Memories" 97.65 (-0.81) 8. blackbear - "hot girl bummer" 89.53 (-1.66) 9. Maren Morris - "The Bones" 89.00 (+0.82) 10 (+1) Camila Cabello - "My Oh My (feat. DaBaby)" 87.10 (+1.28) 11 (-1) Lewis Capaldi - "Someone You Loved" 86.22 (-0.04) 12. Doja Cat - "Say So" 82.71 (+2.01) 13. The Weeknd - "Heartless" 78.08 (-1.73) 14. Justin Bieber - "Intentions (feat. Quavo)" 70.92 (+1.27) 15 (+1) The Black Eyed Peas x J Balvin - "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" 68.58 (-0.16) 16 (-1) Arizona Zervas - "ROXANNE" 68.33 (-0.76) 17. Future - "Life Is Good (feat. Drake)" 65.46 (+0.44) 18. Jonas Brothers - "Sucker" 57.71 (+0.10) 19. Lady Gaga - "Stupid Love" 55.88 (+0.42) 20 (+1) Brett Young - "Catch" 53.38 (+0.61) 21 (+3) Jordan Davis - "Slow Dance in a Parking Lot" 53.03 (+0.99) 98 (+14) Dua Lipa - "Break My Heart" 17.45 (+2.08) The Weeknd - "In Your Eyes" 16.70 (+1.34) Megan Thee Stallion - "Savage" 4.95 (+0.91) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyGagaStan93 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Pop Art said: Wait that's true. Welp, guess we're getting a slightly radio fueled Hot 100 for the time being. Glad my fave is (shockingly) doing best at radio right now between the three metrics. I'm surprised she's still doing pretty okay spin wise. Also maybe just maybe she'll get a spot in at 10 because of the songs dropping hard ahead of her. Funny too that BEP is finally getting another hit and out pacing her again fsdklj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorJustino Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Ger-55 said: Probably in a week or two (more likely two). I have mixed feelings about it, not quite sure, but I have a feeling it's not being well received. It's such a weired, has potential but the chorus is kinda... disappointing. thank you! so, let's wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Art Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, LadyGagaStan93 said: I'm surprised she's still doing pretty okay spin wise. Also maybe just maybe she'll get a spot in at 10 because of the songs dropping hard ahead of her. Funny too that BEP is finally getting another hit and out pacing her again fsdklj I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but the fact that a pop radio Top 10 is actually possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 14. You should be sad : 7.773 (-67) | 29.843 (-0.520) Bye. The radio programmers bias is so obvious This song should’ve at least reached Top 10. It had the same callouts as MOM and they’re still performing similarly on Spotify/Apple Music/iTunes, yet one is smashing and one is getting dropped because of its country sound. Still one of the best songs of the year. Edited April 3, 2020 by State of Grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Radio is without a doubt being mega-overinflated right now. There's no cars on the road, everything is shut down. All these songs are probably barely getting half their audience. Traffic is down 40%+ in every metropolitan city at this point. Metropolitan Area Initial Drop Date Severe Drop Date % Drop March 20 % Drop March 27 New York March 13th March 14th 43% 48% Los Angeles March 12th March 13th 37% 45% Chicago March 10th March 13th 32% 44% Dallas-Ft. Worth March 12th March 14th 35% 45% Houston March 13th March 13th 33% 40% Washington, DC March 12th March 14th 36% 41% Miami March 12th March 14th 36% 48% Philadelphia March 12th March 14th 39% 48% Atlanta March 13th March 14th 28% 34% Boston March 12th March 13th 39% 41% San Francisco March 6th March 12th 51% 54% Seattle March 3rd March 5th 29% 53% New Orleans March 13th March 14th 37% 42% Detroit March 12th March 14th 40% 62% Nationwide March 13th March 14th 30% 41% Trying to figure out every city's audience reach right now would be hard, and prob unreasonable, but Billboard could atleast just reduce radio's point influence on Hot 100 for the meantime because all these songs are just getting completely fake inflated numbers at radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: 14. You should be sad : 7.773 (-67) | 29.843 (-0.520) Bye. The radio programmers bias is so obvious This song should’ve at least reached Top 10. It had the same callouts as MOM and they’re still performing similarly on Spotify/Apple Music/iTunes, yet one is smashing and one is getting dropped because of its country sound. Still one of the best songs of the year. The difference is, MOM managed to increase on callouts week to week. 4 minutes ago, iHype. said: Radio is without a doubt being mega-overinflated right now. There's no cars on the road, everything is shut down. All these songs are probably barely getting half their audience. Trying to figure out every city's audience reach right now would be hard, and prob unreasonable, but Billboard could atleast just reduce radio's point influence on Hot 100 for the meantime because all these songs are just getting completely fake inflated numbers at radio. Not you posting this just as Drake released his single, I see you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medonerpls Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Camila coming to smash YSBS dying is a case for the FBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: The difference is, MOM managed to increase on callouts week to week. YSBS also increased after its debut. And now both of them started decreasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Still one of the best songs of the year. Yass at your taste, nothing but respect, honey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Do we think MOM's pop radio push is organic or nah? It feels like the label could've fueled it once they saw it was actually going somewhere, but it could also just be that pop radio has nothing else to play right now. Songs like Stupid Love and I Love Me are definitely going to benefit from that, as well as BL/AY/MOM which are going to remain at top because of the lack of anything else to spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, nick4bty said: Do we think MOM's pop radio push is organic or nah? It feels like the label could've fueled it once they saw it was actually going somewhere, but it could also just be that pop radio has nothing else to play right now. Callouts have been nothing but great, it's organic to me. Song is amazing, y'all should bop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 the t10 gainers, ranked by quality: my oh my say so break my heart everything i wanted believe it blinding lights adore you i love my country in your eyes intentions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shattered Glass Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 POP 1. Adore You : 18.668 (+395) | 87.145 (+1.254) 2 (+1) Blinding Lights : 18.269 (+230) | 87.740 (+1.403) 3 (-1) Don't Start Now : 18.048 (-63) | 89.102 (-0.657) 4. Hot Girl Bummer : 16.264 (-491) | 71.707 (-1.826) 5 (+1) My Oh My : 14.980 (+312) | 72.720 (+1.513) 6 (-1) everything i wanted : 14.908 (+6) | 69.497 (-0.042) 7. Circles : 12.483 (-184) | 66.405 (-1.090) 8. Say So : 12.001 (+220) | 59.541 (+0.796) 9. Intentions : 11.168 (+70) | 49.587 (+0.287) 10. Roxanne : 9.479 (-299) | 40.849 (-1.161) 11 (+1) RITMO (Bad Boys For Life) : 8.960 (+24) | 41.377 (+0.337) 12 (-1) Heartless : 8.853 (-210) | 46.810 (-1.042) 13. Stupid Love : 8.491 (+63) | 33.151 (+0.085) 14. You should be sad : 7.653 (-120) | 29.990 (+0.147) 15. I Love Me : 6.918 (+28) | 28.211 (-0.063) 16 (+1) Falling : 6.064 (+79) | 22.704 (+0.404) 17 (-1) The Other Side : 5.989 (-55) | 21.054 (-0.319) 18. The Box : 5.867 (+119) | 24.751 (+0.311) 19. Know Your Worth : 5.624 (-82) | 20.828 (-0.788) 20. The Man : 4.371 (+40) | 13.596 (-0.065) 21 (+3) Break My Heart : 3.705 (+435) | 17.552 (+1.139) 22 (-1) Ride It : 3.690 (+26) | 13.681 (+0.158) 23 (-1) Before You Go : 3.489 (+28) | 12.217 (-0.088) 24 (-1) The Bones : 3.368 (+74) | 14.296 (+0.358) 25. Modern Loneliness : 3.210 (+66) | 13.025 (+0.149) 26. Sunday Best : 3.001 (+124) | 10.999 (+0.561) 27 (+1) In Your Eyes : 2.709 (+167) | 12.682 (+0.558) 28 (-1) To Die For : 2.354 (-417) | 7.459 (-1.275) 29. SUGAR : 2.141 (+11) | 6.446 (-0.018) 30. Supalonely : 1.893 | 8.474 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakisfan16 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 My Oh My Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart.me Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 hours ago, nick4bty said: Do we think MOM's pop radio push is organic or nah? Organic payola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Than A Melody Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Apparently radio has actually gained audience in the UK. I don’t know how that translates in America but it makes sense. Radios have hosts that talk, they’re having conversations with celebs and giving out news. For people that are isolated alone they’re good company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Shattered Glass said: 14. You should be sad : 7.653 (-120) | 29.990 (+0.147) nnn some station must've put it on power or smth, but sadly it's over. deserved better 40 minutes ago, Shattered Glass said: 11 (+1) RITMO (Bad Boys For Life) : 8.960 (+24) | 41.377 (+0.337) hoping callouts end this 40 minutes ago, Shattered Glass said: 20. The Man : 4.371 (+40) | 13.596 (-0.065) Good spincrease And looks like Roxanne will indeed go recurrent with Heartless this week. Good update still for SL considering Drake's radio deal hurt everything not in heavy rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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