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Vanpy

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  1. Lena's view about lgbt through the years.
  2. You can look up and show me because I've been following Lena all this time and she was always an Ally, inside and outside Russia.
  3. But.. they? It was just Yulia. And t.A.T.u is more than a one member.
  4. We're talking about their art, not their beliefs. And let's face it, our favs aren't all saints at all.
  5. The producer obligated Yulia to "masturbate" live on the performance. Besides, when the video was filmed she was really doing it, and was underage
  6. But they weren't one hit wonders. All about us was on the top of the charts in a lot of countries. Their former producer **** up all the connections with USA, that's why they didn't even promoted there in 2005 and onwards.
  7. Homophobic people? Yulia was the only one who said something about not wanting his son to be gay (and let's face it, being LGBT in Russia is very dangerous). Lena otherwise was always very supportive. So?
  8. This one is really, really controversial. Especially their performance in Japan💀
  9. Exactly. In the beginning, the project was clearly designed to be provocative and to appeal to the male gaze. However, the LGBT community embraced them with open arms. It was practically the only representation we had. For the first time, a "forbidden" love, one that was openly rejected and persecuted by society, was being portrayed so explicitly in mainstream pop. Teenagers, and even children, were following them and identifying with what they represented.
  10. This and Klouny😍😍 https://youtu.be/kzNh6xr35GQ?si=UVyvil9Mfqgkh7ll
  11. We shout/Nich ya is so pure.. the 2003 version is even better https://youtu.be/L-mClBcp7Q4?si=VjEt4eoM0eNu41vi
  12. Number One on Itunes that year (2008). Yulia wanted it as a single but management said no.
  13. Can we talk seriously about t.A.T.u. for a moment? Why don't we recognize the magnitude of what this project actually accomplished? Back in the early 2000s, there was very little queer representation in mainstream pop. Yes, there were LGBTQ+ artists, but many were still closeted, or their music and image had to remain deliberately ambiguous and "palatable" to the general public. Then t.A.T.u. came along — and suddenly, two teenage girls were kissing on television, singing about desire, forbidden love, alienation and being outsiders. Whether their relationship was real or manufactured almost became secondary: they brought queer imagery and themes into the mainstream in a way that was incredibly difficult to ignore. Of course, there is a lot of baggage surrounding the project. It was created and controlled by Ivan Shapovalov, whose methods and ideas were highly controversial. Lena and Yulia were not actually a lesbian couple, and Yulia herself has made some deeply problematic statements about gay men over the years. None of that should be erased or excused. But why should acknowledging those things mean that we have to erase their artistic legacy? Because honestly, the music holds up. Their studio albums are surprisingly solid bodies of work. They worked with important producers and songwriters, experimented with different sounds, and — even if you completely remove the manufactured "lesbian" concept from the equation — t.A.T.u. was still an extremely strong pop project. https://youtube.com/shorts/-K-_O1FXPw4?si=OsZVg7wV95UPZQi9 And their visual work deserves more recognition too. Videos like "All About Us," "Lyudi Invalidy," and "White Robe" went far beyond simply selling a pop image. There was social commentary, violence, repression, religion, sexuality and alienation running through their visual universe. I especially think Lyudi Invalidy deserves to be reconsidered as a conceptual album. There is something genuinely fascinating about the atmosphere and thematic consistency of that record. So I would encourage people to go back and listen to t.A.T.u. without the baggage that the internet has attached to them over the years. Put aside the manufactured relationship for a moment. Put aside the controversies. Listen to the songwriting, the production, the arrangements, the melodies, the lyrics and the sheer ambition of the project. You might be surprised by how much of it still works. And now, with the renewed interest generated by Heated Rivalry and their reunion, it feels like people are slowly remembering t.A.T.u. again. Maybe it's time to do more than remember them as "those two Russian girls who kissed." There was much more to t.A.T.u. than that. Their music deserves to be heard again — and, perhaps, taken seriously again.
  14. This one
  15. As a Paraguayan, I have to admit that racism and classism are unfortunately still deeply rooted in parts of our society. Sadly, many people in positions of power can be quite ignorant. But please believe me: those opinions do not represent all Paraguayans. Many of us reject that kind of thinking and want a more respectful and inclusive society.
  16. Ohh no, that dude is Paraguayan as me. But he doesn't represent us, we have better taste.
  17. I can listen the pitch correction from the beginning.
  18. Not my country, we are suffering enough
  19. Well, this is better than expected. The woman is not 20 anymore, she's not going to sound like prime Mariah.
  20. https://www.google.com/search?q=calm+down+gramma+madonna&oq=calm+down+gramma+madonna&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgNGB4yBwgCEAAY7wUyBwgDEAAY7wUyBwgEEAAY7wUyBwgFEAAY7wUyBwgGEAAY7wXSAQg1OTk1ajBqNKgCDrACAfEF1CSUlj1Z48g&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sv=CAMScRoyKhBlLUpwMEZIVmtuVGprMW5NMg5KcDBGSFZrblRqazFuTToOSkt0SWsxYjZKZ0lkd00gBCoxChtfdkFIbGFiZnFFWkRKMXNRUG1lNnB3UXNfMzMSEGUtSnAwRkhWa25Uamsxbk0YADABSgQIARACGAcg-ZrMjAZKCBACGAEgAigB
  21. I love her!! She actually tried and reviewed the other course he was offering.
  22. This give me "Britney Spears Onyx Hotel Tour Rock in Rio" vibes. She slayed, tho
  23. The salsa version of Die with a Smile remind me of this..

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