spiritboy

Who cares? She has 4 AOTY Grammy Awards and even at her lowest, she eclipses all of your faves.

I say you and Katy are boatmates now

Madonna might not allow MTV to put her performance to Youtube if the camera work is awful as some people claim.

Taylor of course. She eclipsed Madonna.

She is the Queen, the blueprint of your faves. You have no idea how huge she was plus she has one of the best discographis in pop music. Her videos and tours were events and more people hate her than love her, which makes her always relevant.

There is no artist more deserving than Madonna. She was at VMAs since the very beginning, before most of your faves weren't born. She still delivers great music at 67, wonder if your faves could do the same when they are over 60?

Liddos clowned themselves too early. Madonna has been in the game for 40 years and still reigns supreme. Taylor might get bad reviews for now but she'll survive and will continue to stomp on your fave's neck. You better worry about your fave.

No Gaga Yes Ratings

Gave this a listen and didn't like it at first listen. Maybe it'll grow after a few listens but if it doesn't i'll sit one out and wait for new music.

Imp, a hate train is what Katy suffered, not Taylor. She still gets good news but Katy has received hate from all types of platforms. I think people don't hate Taylor, they have Taylor fatigue and want her to go away for a few years and come back with stronger material.

She wanted to be the biggest artist in the world. Now she is and she'll have a huge target on her back. She should get used to it. And no, this is not a hate train.

I am sasha…potato

Wonder if this thread will be as messy as Disease thread?

why do you want her to retire? most of you don't even listen to her, it's probably because when she doesn't release music, most of y'all faves will look successful people have been asking Madonna to retire since she was 35, if she retired we wouldn't have Bedtime Stories, Ray Of Light, Music, Confessions albums. you might find Taylor's music boring but her fans are happy with the output and are willing to spend money. i am not even a fan but i hope she'll break every record possible, it'll be funny to see the meltdowns

I doubt she'll reset anything. As long as she doesn't something cringeworthy and embarrassing it'll be enough.