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They are "fan voted" on paper but past results clearly show they don't always give the award to whoever had more votes, it's sometimes extremely obvious and shameless too It depends on who attends + VMAs like to spread out the winners so everyone gets a prize.

Well... no Besides, why would we compare Mariah's entire music revenue against simply a tour for Taylor? If we include the money Taylor made from music consumption (which is more than any artist in history), it's not even close... She moved well over 170 million units this decade so far. That's at least $2.5 billion in direct revenue from sales and streams alone. Now imagine if we add touring and other music ventures/revenue sources

I don't expect ATRL to be objective about this, but like... The answer is factually Taylor

Exactly

Ok? What do you want us to do with the information that on day 59 on Spotify Olivia's album had 115K more streams than Showgirl...? Does it change the fact that Taylor is the most streamed female artist every single day, the most consumed female artist of the day, week and month, and that she will (yet again) be the best-selling female artist of the year? The fact that y'all get such a high from such a minor, isolated win (outstreaming an album by 115K on day 59 on a specific platform) as if it somehow changes the broader picture is quite telling. Keep accumulating those small Ws, OTHs! Maybe one day Taylor will actually be overtaken in overall stats and you'll finally have something to celebrate for once in your life!

"Once upon a time" and it's literally during the very last election...

Based on what are you saying this? They're literally more likely to use your music again if you play into it. Unclear how y'all are yet to realize that by now.

Yes. Taylor is over, you've finally won, ATRL!

Being an outsider looking in, I think the biggest issue with Alberta's separatist movement is that it's largely based on conjecture. The movement is driven by things that can change: dissatisfaction with the federal Liberal government, frustration over energy and environmental policies, equalization, and the current economic context. Those are legitimate political grievances, but they're fundamentally different from having a longstanding national identity that people believe warrants its own state. In other words, the movement feels more like a reaction to the current political climate than the expression of a distinct nation seeking self-determination. Although it's about more than just that, at its core Quebec separatism is built around the idea that Quebec constitutes a distinct nation, with its own language, culture, civil law, history, and institutions that predate Confederation and even Canada itself. That argument exists regardless of who's in power in Ottawa or whether the economy is booming. Even if every constitutional or fiscal grievance disappeared tomorrow, the underlying question of Quebec's national identity would still exist, whereas it's much harder to argue the same for Alberta.

Oui!

I really hope daddy wins

I really don't think that's accurate. There's been so many viral tweets in the past basically just mocking Sombr for his body/how skinny he is

It already did the very next day

Do you guys really believe this delusion or...

From what I gather it's because Spotify combined versions that day?

b-but the album has So High School!11!1!!

well

Metacritic: TLOAS - 69 petal - 64

Y'all absolutely love to exaggerate how much high school imagery appears in Taylor's recent work. It's one of OTHs' favorite talking point fff Since 2020, she's released 105 songs, and maybe 5 or 6 of them contain a high school reference or metaphor. That's roughly 96% of her output this decade with no high school-related imagery whatsoever. The idea that her recent albums lack complex experiences is even more baffling. Albums like folklore, evermore, Midnights, TTPD and even Showgirl (although to a lesser extent) are filled with songs about grief, infidelity, addiction, depression, self-loathing, long-term relationships, fame, public scrutiny, starting a family, aging, identity, and the psychological consequences of living under a microscope. Reducing all of that to "she still writes about high school" requires ignoring the overwhelming majority of what she's actually released . Y'all always just say anything and hope no one calls you out. Also, the BTS comparisons... Y'all also love to pretend as if Taylor's discography is this panned mess when in reality it's more acclaimed than the vast majority of your favs.BTS can't even win a Grammy, let alone 4 albums of the year

Panned harder than Showgirl. Hang in there, Arianators!

One of the biggest non-single songs of all time

Ah yes, Taylor obviously hasn't done something "a little more substantial". She's only the most successful woman of all time in the music industry.

Did it? Did it really outside of the stan world...? When people are genuinely sick of an artist, they stop engaging with them. They stop streaming the music, buying the albums, talking about them, and paying attention altogether. Yet Taylor has remained the biggest and most culturally relevant pop girl year after year. 2016 might have been the closest, but come on. Taylor was IFPI's biggest global artist in 2019. Taylor is by far the most streamed female artist of 2026 too. If this is Taylor at the point where everyone's supposedly "sick of her," I'd hate to see what she'd accomplish if people actually liked her.

We've been hearing the "people are getting sick of Taylor" argument almost every single year since 2013

Beyoncé hasn't had an album over 6M since 2016...?