I was talking about the hold up of announcing Manon's obvious departure with friends last night and one who's a lawyer asked if they had any active campaigns still going with the original lineup - and then I remembered this was posted 11 days ago

And this was literally posted yesterday

L'Oreal literally owns Matrix, I can imagine how ironclad this brand deal was between them and HYBE Geffen. They hired the 6 girls with the intention of each promoting different hair textures. The campaign launched literally the day before Manon was put on hiatus in February. Regardless of the endless drama, noise and think pieces, Manon technically, by all legal terms "is on hiatus for her health and well being" and is still a "member of KATSEYE" allowing L'Oreal/Matrix to continue posting and fulfilling the contract they hired HYBE / the girls for.

My friend then said it was probably at least a year signing with L'Oreal - which mean it prevents HYBE from technically officially "removing her" without them having to pay a fine. Though you'd think at this point they would just take the penalty with how much of a PR nightmare this whole Manon situation become. But then he also brought up the point that HYBE wouldn't be sweating cause the bottom line has proven to be untouchable regardless. The album has a 1M presaves on Spotify, they just had their biggest opening week with "Animal" on Billboard, and of course the world tour is 100% sold out.

He also said they need A LOT of time to iron out what's going to happen to Manon with her lawyers. Its clear HYBE Geffen set up/approved multiple brand deals for Manon in the meantime to keep her happy (Coach at Coachella, Tommy at F1, Jacquemus etc) Whether she stays with the company (which I don't see how she'd want to at this point) and what that severance package would be if she does part ways with HYBE Geffen - they''ve probably been sorting out all the details these last few months.

I know its kind of wild to think that a hair campaign is what's keeping the obvious from finally being announced, but when I saw them still posting about it as of this week, it does make sense, which means they'll probably go on the world tour with her still on "hiatus" and the announcement probably will come in the new year... Or the deal isn't that long and it gets announced sooner. Then everyone can finally move on with their lives

They're such excellent performers

Oh Lara… the ICON that you are

The way she makes them all look and sound a MESS

8 hours ago, kendoll2001 said:

I was talking about the hold up of announcing Manon's obvious departure with friends last night and one who's a lawyer asked if they had any active campaigns still going with the original lineup - and then I remembered this was posted 11 days ago

And this was literally posted yesterday

L'Oreal literally owns Matrix, I can imagine how ironclad this brand deal was between them and HYBE Geffen. They hired the 6 girls with the intention of each promoting different hair textures. The campaign launched literally the day before Manon was put on hiatus in February. Regardless of the endless drama, noise and think pieces, Manon technically, by all legal terms "is on hiatus for her health and well being" and is still a "member of KATSEYE" allowing L'Oreal/Matrix to continue posting and fulfilling the contract they hired HYBE / the girls for.

My friend then said it was probably at least a year signing with L'Oreal - which mean it prevents HYBE from technically officially "removing her" without them having to pay a fine. Though you'd think at this point they would just take the penalty with how much of a PR nightmare this whole Manon situation become. But then he also brought up the point that HYBE wouldn't be sweating cause the bottom line has proven to be untouchable regardless. The album has a 1M presaves on Spotify, they just had their biggest opening week with "Animal" on Billboard, and of course the world tour is 100% sold out.

He also said they need A LOT of time to iron out what's going to happen to Manon with her lawyers. Its clear HYBE Geffen set up/approved multiple brand deals for Manon in the meantime to keep her happy (Coach at Coachella, Tommy at F1, Jacquemus etc) Whether she stays with the company (which I don't see how she'd want to at this point) and what that severance package would be if she does part ways with HYBE Geffen - they''ve probably been sorting out all the details these last few months.

I know its kind of wild to think that a hair campaign is what's keeping the obvious from finally being announced, but when I saw them still posting about it as of this week, it does make sense, which means they'll probably go on the world tour with her still on "hiatus" and the announcement probably will come in the new year... Or the deal isn't that long and it gets announced sooner. Then everyone can finally move on with their lives

yea it def makes most sense but then you go on social media and several eyekons are under some kind of collective hypnosis thinking they cracked the code on her comeback date

having their official social media accs wish her a happy bday and Sophia say things like "the door is always open" doesn't exactly help tho

54 minutes ago, ihavequestions said:

Oh Lara… the ICON that you are

The way she makes them all look and sound a MESS

actually that's not the truth ellen

they all sound and look great

I'm glad we can actually hear each of the others voices there

1 hour ago, ihavequestions said:

Oh Lara… the ICON that you are

The way she makes them all look and sound a MESS

You want these girls to sound and look like 5H so bad Now that was the real mess on stage

Animal becomes their first top 20 in Sweden and highest peaking song in Germany

1 minute ago, okgo said:

Animal becomes their first top 20 in Sweden and highest peaking song in Germany

This global hit

11 hours ago, kendoll2001 said:

I was talking about the hold up of announcing Manon's obvious departure with friends last night and one who's a lawyer asked if they had any active campaigns still going with the original lineup - and then I remembered this was posted 11 days ago

And this was literally posted yesterday

L'Oreal literally owns Matrix, I can imagine how ironclad this brand deal was between them and HYBE Geffen. They hired the 6 girls with the intention of each promoting different hair textures. The campaign launched literally the day before Manon was put on hiatus in February. Regardless of the endless drama, noise and think pieces, Manon technically, by all legal terms "is on hiatus for her health and well being" and is still a "member of KATSEYE" allowing L'Oreal/Matrix to continue posting and fulfilling the contract they hired HYBE / the girls for.

My friend then said it was probably at least a year signing with L'Oreal - which mean it prevents HYBE from technically officially "removing her" without them having to pay a fine. Though you'd think at this point they would just take the penalty with how much of a PR nightmare this whole Manon situation become. But then he also brought up the point that HYBE wouldn't be sweating cause the bottom line has proven to be untouchable regardless. The album has a 1M presaves on Spotify, they just had their biggest opening week with "Animal" on Billboard, and of course the world tour is 100% sold out.

He also said they need A LOT of time to iron out what's going to happen to Manon with her lawyers. Its clear HYBE Geffen set up/approved multiple brand deals for Manon in the meantime to keep her happy (Coach at Coachella, Tommy at F1, Jacquemus etc) Whether she stays with the company (which I don't see how she'd want to at this point) and what that severance package would be if she does part ways with HYBE Geffen - they''ve probably been sorting out all the details these last few months.

I know its kind of wild to think that a hair campaign is what's keeping the obvious from finally being announced, but when I saw them still posting about it as of this week, it does make sense, which means they'll probably go on the world tour with her still on "hiatus" and the announcement probably will come in the new year... Or the deal isn't that long and it gets announced sooner. Then everyone can finally move on with their lives

I don't think it's just about the fine. It's also a marketing tactic. People are tuning in to see the drama, what are the girls saying about the situation, are they all still friends, did she get kicked out, will she'll reappear, etc. To some degree it's advantageous to them and their brand to be ambiguous and keep people guessing because it keeps people interested and engaged.

I miss Manon though. She deserves better than to be a marketing tactic.

hope it's not something super serious and she's healthy asap

but so she's gonna miss the entire EP release week promo will she even be ready for the start of the tour

1 minute ago, okgo said:

hope it's not something super serious and she's healthy asap

but so she's gonna miss the entire EP release week promo will she even be ready for the start of the tour

The fact that it's a mental health break. She's been on the receiving end of so much abuse online. These poor girls

the insider posted something abt the tour and VMAs but deleted so I guess they are (or were?) supposed to perform there too.. the show is only on Sept 27 this year though

3 minutes ago, okgo said:

the insider posted something abt the tour and VMAs but deleted so I guess they are (or were?) supposed to perform there too.. the show is only on Sept 27 this year though

What did he say? The VMAs Where so obvious this years

This Sophie stuff seems so serious. I really hope she recovers soon. At least this time they have been specific and the girl herself posted about it

1 minute ago, Monky_2405 said:

What did he say? The VMAs Where so obvious this years

This Sophie stuff seems so serious. I really hope she recovers soon. At least this time they have been specific and the girl herself posted about it

I think it was basically implying she might be missing both (a part of the tour and the VMAs)

well tbf Manon posted something herself (the day after her announcement) too right? the "I'm healthy and taking care of myself" one

Edited August 7Aug 7 by okgo

9 minutes ago, okgo said:

the insider posted something abt the tour and VMAs but deleted so I guess they are (or were?) supposed to perform there too.. the show is only on Sept 27 this year though

I'm glad she's at least posted and confirmed she'll be coming back

The hate these poor girls get have been receiving is far too much and the majority isn't even about their music.

The drama isn't stopping anytime soon huh

27 minutes ago, okgo said:

I think it was basically implying she might be missing both (a part of the tour and the VMAs)

well tbf Manon posted something herself (the day after her announcement) too right? the "I'm healthy and taking care of myself" one

Oh well, I did not remember.

Anyway, so sad..I really hope is another Manon situation, even tho this time seems to be more transparency

1 minute ago, Monky_2405 said:

Oh well, I did not remember.

Anyway, so sad..I really hope is another Manon situation, even tho this time seems to be more transparency

they posted this now

(the way they mention VMAs first I wonder if they're aware that's only happening in late Sept this year / after the European leg of the tour?)

Edited August 7Aug 7 by okgo

48 minutes ago, okgo said:

they posted this now

(the way they mention VMAs first I wonder if they're aware that's only happening in late Sept this year / after the European leg of the tour?)

She is obviously going to Miss the european leg of the tour. It starts early september, there a just a few weeks left. The fact they just started rehareals was already weird.

At least they are saying another video is coming, and yes..I agreenis going to be weird (just like the fact the in the movie we are going to see scene s of Manon)

About the VMAs: it's weird since they are being hosted very late in september

Edited August 7Aug 7 by Monky_2405

2 minutes ago, Monky_2405 said:

She is obviously going to Miss the european leg of the tour. It starts early september, there a just a few weeks left. The fact they just started rehareals was already weird.

At least they are saying another video is coming, and yes..I agreenis going to be weird (just like the fact the in the movie we are going to see scene s of Manon)

It does seem to be a mental health break though

1 minute ago, Monky_2405 said:

She is obviously going to Miss the european leg of the tour. It starts early september, there a just a few weeks left. The fact they just started rehareals was already weird.

At least they are saying another video is coming, and yes..I agreenis going to be weird (just like the fact the in the movie we are going to see scene s of Manon)

I don't have insights into any of what this person is saying, but I don't think what they are posting is entirely true.

Tours are a massive production that take a lot of planning. If the tour starts September 1st. I would think that video content for the show was being filmed and produced in June or July, so I do think Sophia will be featured in it. They could've even shot a lot of it when they were shooting the EP creative.

I would also imagine whatever visuals and music video is dropping on the day of EP release will also feature Sophia. I think Sophia's hiatus will impact the upcoming physical commitments.

8 minutes ago, XXI. said:

I don't have insights into any of what this person is saying, but I don't think what they are posting is entirely true.

Tours are a massive production that take a lot of planning. If the tour starts September 1st. I would think that video content for the show was being filmed and produced in June or July, so I do think Sophia will be featured in it. They could've even shot a lot of it when they were shooting the EP creative.

I would also imagine whatever visuals and music video is dropping on the day of EP release will also feature Sophia. I think Sophia's hiatus will impact the upcoming physical commitments.

Yeah yeah Of course Sophia will be in visuals and stuff. I also think they will feature her vocals in upcoming performances (today show and jimmy fallon) just like they did during hinterland.

23 minutes ago, XXI. said:

I don't have insights into any of what this person is saying, but I don't think what they are posting is entirely true.

Tours are a massive production that take a lot of planning. If the tour starts September 1st. I would think that video content for the show was being filmed and produced in June or July, so I do think Sophia will be featured in it. They could've even shot a lot of it when they were shooting the EP creative.

I would also imagine whatever visuals and music video is dropping on the day of EP release will also feature Sophia. I think Sophia's hiatus will impact the upcoming physical commitments.

they could be wrong here ofc but they've usually been spot on with their scheduling / what is coming up and stuff over the last year

Just teal bad timing for Sophia to announce a hiatus 1 week before album release.. She is supposed to be the leader of the group. Maybe it would have been better for her to just take a hiatus from performing. She could have been still promoting without performing. Anyway if the leader of Katseye doesn't care about the group then why should we care? Unfortunately this could be the beginning of the end of Katseye. At least they still have their most important member Lara.

Edited August 7Aug 7 by leonagwen

1 minute ago, leonagwen said:

Just teal bad timing for Sophia to announce a hiatus 1 week before album release.. She is supposed to be the leader of the group. Maybe it would have been better for her to take a hiatus from performing. She could have been still promoting without performing. Anyway if the leader of Katseye doesn't care about the group then why should we care? Unfortunately this could be the beginning of the end of Katseye. At least they still have their most important member Lara.

How did you even come to that conclusion? She's literally unwell. HYBE and Geffen listened to medical professionals and gave her the time off she needs. This is the first health-related break Sophia has taken since the group debuted

debuts at #27 on Billboards Pop songs

can we expect it to go top 25 on the Mediabase chart soon or is it still far away @jdanton2