you kind of have to start being a thing before you can be over

Unholy was a fluke hit, as evidenced by how it did next to nothing for both Sam and Kim's careers. And even then Sam carried.

So yes, never started etc.

She has enough recognition to sell out small venues and do club shows, which I feel like she probably prefers after all the major label mess. she'll be fine. Not everybody is meant to be mega famous, and she'll always be the first openly trans Grammy winner.

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Yes and she has no one to blame but herself. She debuted as the new not-so-popular girl with QUALITY bops that also delivered an amazing concept album out of nowhere. Then she ruined her entire image by releasing TurdPop and becoming a parody of "what the gays want."

She's still releasing bops. "Freak it" and "i like ur look" are extremely catchy and dance-y. So long as she focuses on quality and her own artistic vision, she'll be fine. The major label and obsession with trying to be "the next big thing" and tailoring her sound to that idea did hurt her.

9 hours ago, Démodé said:

no? we wanted either clarity-level bops like Personal Hell/Icy or sth closer to Radio/I like ur Look.

Maybe the 3 stans here? The majority is stanning the eps, just check her reddit. But ofc we would also gladly take this kind of music too lol i didmz word it clearly enough. But it's not like it alienated lots of her base = it didn't ruin anything

If amything feed the beast did and alone being not what the gp expected ruined her very small mainstream chances

Edited December 5, 2025Dec 5 by simplywohoo

1 hour ago, simplywohoo said:

Maybe the 3 stans here? The majority is stanning the eps, just check her reddit. But ofc we would also gladly take this kind of music too lol i didmz word it clearly enough. But it's not like it alienated lots of her base = it didn't ruin anything

If amything feed the beast did and alone being not what the gp expected ruined her very small mainstream chances

let's agree that the FtB music just won't help her case further hahahhaha

Yeah she released like 3 debuts and they all flopped

She wasted 10k on that rancid Max Martin Jesus song & then went running back to Dr Luke when it flopped. It was over before it began for her I fear

Edited December 5, 2025Dec 5 by secretgarden