3 minutes ago, Adama said:

Lol it’s funny, history is really repeating herself again ! The big 4 can’t stand that a mid agency currently have the biggest gg in SK. Kakao own multiples big agencies but only Starship is mentioned? How convenient 

Yup this was inevitable. (G)-idle the next target I guess 

What is this bs that IVE doesnt have a fanbase lmao. Dives are very lowkey and are usually multis hence why they’re not the most obvious on stan twitter (they are very similar to carats in that they dont do much on voting but they will buy). 
Casual GP does not sell you 2 million albums in a year. It sells you hits but not albums. 

1 minute ago, WhalieX said:

Yup this was inevitable. (G)-idle the next target I guess 

I think they’re safe. 

Can’t wait to see IVE collect all the ROTY and SOTY awards this year ! 
 

The hypocrites HYBE Stans can keep crying 

Starship's executive was literally arrested for rigging PD48 so i'm not surprised at all

1 hour ago, Take Me Apart said:

edit: and Garam probably never said **** about her too  

wait it makes sense now

there were rumors that Garam used to be a Starship trainee and then left for HYBE

maybe Starship were bitter so they made up this Wonyoung rumor 

Edited November 5, 20223 yr by Flomik

Just came to peep in to say I absolutely adore this song and it scratches every part of my brain 

 

 

IVE is over poor my girls 

WY fake popularity, all her CFs and endorsement were all bought 

Garam "stans" now pushing the narrative that she was a Starship trainee while a few months ago it was the other way around. 

 

The truth is that no company has clean hands and that's just how the industry works.

Also kpop stans are unbearable during the award season. All the he said, she said and crying about rigging and cheating and it's the same every damn year like...aren't we tired and not supposed to give a f already?

16 minutes ago, Love Again said:

Just came to peep in to say I absolutely adore this song and it scratches every part of my brain 

 

 

Crack  Yeah anti fragile >> fearless I saw the light 

 

Kpop Stans tore this girl down, ****-shamed and said the most vile things to her but that’s Kakao’s fault If they’d trusted her since the beginning she’d have never left the group.  
 

31 minutes ago, Sept said:

Starship's executive was literally arrested for rigging PD48 so i'm not surprised at all

well Chaewon was rigged too I guess Hybe/ Woollim paved the way 

 

Let’s hope KAKAO buy them a daesang don’t wanna the trash song aka that that taking SOTY over Tomboy or LD. 

 

8 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

well Chaewon was rigged too

is it confirmed which members were rigged? if HYBE/Woolim did rig Chaewon, maybe rigging isn't that bad

Edited November 5, 20223 yr by Flomik

People on twitter spreading lies that IVE achievements are all fakes lol. They can’t stand the fact that not only IVE stomped on their peers in SK but also globally 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Crack  Yeah anti fragile >> fearless I saw the light 

 

Kpop Stans tore this girl down, ****-shamed and said the most vile things to her but that’s Kakao’s fault If they’d trusted her since the beginning she’d have never left the group.  
 

well Chaewon was rigged too I guess Hybe/ Woollim paved the way 

 

Let’s hope KAKAO buy them a daesang don’t wanna the trash song aka that that taking SOTY over Tomboy or LD. 

 

The fact that Chaewon was never in the top 12 during all the competition but somehow managed to debut during the final lol!

It’s funny how LSRFM and NJ fans are the loudest when HYBE also bought LSRFM first win, which was proved btw and used payola to put Attention on TTH

 

But Im lowkey enjoying all this, all these fights amoung the 4th gen , it’s the 2nd gen spirit all over again 

 

https://youtu.be/KbAYWaXUQhY

Edited November 5, 20223 yr by Adama

Yes!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 Why are they in their damn business. Calling their success inorganic when IVE stomp them in Korea, Japan and internationally. Crazy. 

 

8 minutes ago, Adama said:

The fact that Chaewon was never in the top 12 during all the competition but somehow managed to debut during the final lol!
 

There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th  on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final.

 

So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. 

 

I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship. 

19 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

The way this random unpromoted Christmas song is out-streaming and out-viewing all these other 4th gen bg MV's    

 

 

Truly a Kpop Christmas classic Leé Knowles' pre-chorus 

 

"Jack Frost coming for y'all, run, run
Ppyeokkaji sirige haneun holiday, silence" 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

Iconic

 

Tiktok viral hit 

Almost 100M streams on Spotify with the single album 

100M views on YouTube and 0 ads

1 Music Show Win (Mubank) 

3x Platinum on Circle 

 

And they've never promoted this era 

It's starting to go viral on Tiktok again and gaining streams on Spotify  i'll scream if this becomes a seasonal hit for them like AIWFCIY is to Mariah

 

17 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

The whole cover conversation on twt reminded me I love this one of skz members dancing miss A's Goodbye Baby 

 

 

 

 

Chan and Lino put their entire bussies into this cover oh my

 

Starship has been fighting fraud/sajaegi allegations for YEARS.

 

They usually use lawsuits to keep the story buried, but it keeps on resurfacing. Plus, even recently, their senior executives were caught in the Mnet rigging scandals. There's no smoke without fire.

Woolim bought chaewon's spot but didn't she leave them to join Hype?

13 minutes ago, Hay Amores said:

There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th  on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final.

 

So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. 

 

I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship. 

They should have released this list btw

 

6 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

Then explain why Hype Boy bigger than Attention globally?

 

Anyway this IVE VS Le Sserafim are totally a set up from Garam fandom 

Because first Hybe boy is the better song and have a better longevity. Attention was bigger in SK at the first too. 
 

It’s not only IVE vs LSRFM (which was bound to happen since Wy and Sakura fans hate each others) but it’s now IVE vs NJ (rookie of the year fights), but also AESPA and IVE (global stats and physicals sales fights) and I also saw a lot of onces shading them too (Japan market + ex NGG vs new NGG comparaison) 

 

12 minutes ago, Zack said:

Starship has been fighting fraud/sajaegi allegations for YEARS.

 

They usually use lawsuits to keep the story buried, but it keeps on resurfacing. Plus, even recently, their senior executives were caught in the Mnet rigging scandals. There's no smoke without fire.

So Starship is also doing Sajaegi globally too? 
 

 

43 minutes ago, Adama said:

People on twitter spreading lies that IVE achievements are all fakes lol. They can’t stand the fact that not only IVE stomped on their peers in SK but also globally 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this can’t be true!!! i can NOT believe it!!

starship must’ve hired streaming farms!! 

Edited November 5, 20223 yr by hallucinate

23 minutes ago, Hay Amores said:

There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th  on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final.

 

So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. 

 

I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship. 

Chaewon was a woolim trainee though 

 

Hybe had nothing to do with her or p48 until probably izone was ending their contract

13 minutes ago, Adama said:

So Starship is also doing Sajaegi globally too?

Starship executives have been caught in the past destroying evidence. All we can do is comment on what is known to the public

41 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

 

 

 

 

 

 Why are they in their damn business. Calling their success inorganic when IVE stomp them in Korea, Japan and internationally. Crazy. 

 

They needed a coping mechanism after a directionless year their faves had.

22 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

this can’t be true!!! i can NOT believe it!!

starship must’ve hired streaming farms!! 

Starship is doing sajaegi on spotify, youtube, apple music, billboard,FLO, Genie, Bugs,Vibes and melon ofc  (since it’s owned by kakao duh). I guess, they also faked IVE physicals in Hanteo and Circle too ! 
 

They even did sajaegi on tik tok for Dear Cupid, could you imagine