58 minutes ago, Hazy said:

yeah but lets not act like Armys wasn’t crowdfunding both for the albums and BTS’ English singles’ various versions to the point where Billboard literally changed the chart rules  each big fandom acts like that to some extend and I wouldn’t add my three cents to that EVER, Armys are the most capable, they were able to keep the singles afloat for months before the rule change and after that everything went downward 

I am not sure why you are writing this piece, but Billboard changed the rules of singles chart because of BTS, but not album chart. Let’s not invent new narrative.

 

Album chart rules were changed because bundling practices were getting ridiculous. BTS is literally only Korean group that hasn’t used excessive bundling. 

 

mini wendy hits again

 

she's so wasted in nmixx

the stinks selling 1/3 of what BTS sold in the US  

BTS flop era > stink peak era 

'Aespa have no stage presence' has honestly been a false narrative since the beginning. It's just that pre-recorded vocal performances are naturally lifeless and robotic with pretty much any group, and that's all they did for 18 months When they sing live their stage presence is not meaningfully different to any other K-pop group. Blackpink's performances where they don't sing live are also overall flat, and that's even with Lisa serving face and choreo non-stop.

 

The 'stony faced' criticism of Winter always gets me too bc there are many idols who are like that. So many. I think it's a deliberate choice honestly.

 

Also for the record that Jimmy Kimmel Shut Down performance is for sure a live vocal, just with very heavy backtrack.

speaking of live vocals....

sm going all out for nct promo this time

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Mattheo said:

mini wendy hits again

 

she's so wasted in nmixx

Not her being offkey right at the beginning  

 

Many idols have tried to sing Psycho but no one could do it like Wendy tbh. The talent  

11 minutes ago, Mattheo said:

im not really delusional , but yall clearly never gave them the chance after 2021 and coachella
most of their girls and illusion performances served and karina and winter (both) ate nn up

take this for example

 

 

and this cam is literally better than anything nn ever served ...beauty or expressions at that

 

 

you literally proved my point 

Winter smiled three times and that made you believe she developed some crazy charisma? and that’s one of her good days 

same for Karina, she serves beautiful picture perfect face and good dancing and then what? where is the it factor? 

 

they look like they are scared of anyone catching a bad frame of their face

they never add personal flavor to the choreo (Winter did a bit in the first vid, I admit) 

always the same tired perfectly done choreo and pre recorded vocals - you can watch one performance and be sure that 80% of the remaining ones will be exactly the same, what’s so charismatic about that? 

 

4 minutes ago, lily42 said:

I am not sure why you are writing this piece, but Billboard changed the rules of singles chart because of BTS, but not album chart. Let’s not invent new narrative.

 

Album chart rules were changed because bundling practices were getting ridiculous. BTS is literally only Korean group that hasn’t used excessive bundling. 

 

I should specify that more precisely in the first post, I didn’t mean bundle rule, just singles chart change

 

then I wanted to point out crowdfunding of both albums and singles, but as I said it’s something that most big fanbases do, BTS and Armys have just a bigger pull - because some people here have the audacity to point out that Blinks are doing this too as if they are the only fandom to practice it 

 

Eunji is the only one doing it justice, and effortlessly

12 minutes ago, Aniston's Boobs said:

the stinks selling 1/3 of what BTS sold in the US  

BTS flop era > stink peak era 

Armys coming out of retirement? 

Finally I’ve been so lonely on my own 

1 hour ago, Lilac said:

Ads they only have 600k likes. 

 

Their album sales are also a little fishy, they've already sold 300k on hanteo but pre-orders were only 50k from cbars & 40k on ktown4u.

By the current trend of albums sales that’s not surprising but I don’t get the huge sales since they have a tiny fandom JYP stans can’t carry all the sales. 
However their c-fans ordered 70k sales, c-fans are carrying KPOP tbh. 
 

Blackpink are underperforming because they sold less in the US but twice are declining too because they aren’t doing well in Korea while they’re growing everywhere 

 

 

 

 

Cheap talking in this page

14 minutes ago, Aniston's Boobs said:

the stinks selling 1/3 of what BTS sold in the US  

BTS flop era > stink peak era 

nobody is coming for BTS sales

 

it's only you who isnt even a fan

4 minutes ago, Harrier said:

'Aespa have no stage presence' has honestly been a false narrative since the beginning. It's just that pre-recorded vocal performances are naturally lifeless and robotic with pretty much any group, and that's all they did for 18 months When they sing live their stage presence is not meaningfully different to any other K-pop group. Blackpink's performances where they don't sing live are also overall flat, and that's even with Lisa serving face and choreo non-stop.

 

The 'stony faced' criticism of Winter always gets me too bc there are many idols who are like that. So many. I think it's a deliberate choice honestly.

 

Also for the record that Jimmy Kimmel Shut Down performance is for sure a live vocal, just with very heavy backtrack.

I agree, but since aespa has not so many live performances it’s hard to state that they are charismatic and interesting, especially more than BP  

 

I agree with the Winter statement too, but then those other idols are not praised to the heavens or crowned as an it girls or charismatic ones in their respective groups (and Winter is serving as part of the charismatic lineup apparently )

 

also singing to the pre recorded vocals can be pulling too if you have charismatic and energetic lineup which was proved by NJ - all of their stages are absolutely amazing and those girls really look like they truly enjoy every second of being on stage 

Theres always something to fight about

1 minute ago, Hazy said:

you literally proved my point 

Winter smiled three times and that made you believe she developed some crazy charisma? and that’s one of her good days 

same for Karina, she serves beautiful picture perfect face and good dancing and then what? where is the it factor? 

 

they look like they are scared of anyone catching a bad frame of their face

they never add personal flavor to the choreo (Winter did a bit in the first vid, I admit) 

always the same tired perfectly done choreo and pre recorded vocals - you can watch one performance and be sure that 80% of the remaining ones will be exactly the same, what’s so charismatic about that? 

 

I should specify that more precisely in the first post, I didn’t mean bundle rule, just singles chart change

 

then I wanted to point out crowdfunding of both albums and singles, but as I said it’s something that most big fanbases do, BTS and Armys have just a bigger pull - because some people here have the audacity to point out that Blinks are doing this too as if they are the only fandom to practice it 

winter showed way more than that and was energetic the whole performance , so was karina so idg where u are coming from for the charisma and lack of it factor? literally most kpop performance from the ones people here present explaining energetic performances serve similarly to this

and many pre-recorded vocals  too

 

 

 

so idg the proving your point your point i literally proved they improved a lot from last year and  served (except live music shows vocals)

Just now, Mattheo said:

winter showed way more than that and was energetic the whole performance , so was karina so idg where u are coming from for the charisma and lack of it factor? literally most kpop performance from the ones people here present explaining energetic performances serve similarly to this

and many pre-recorded vocals  too

 

 

 

so idg the proving your point your point i literally proved they improved a lot from last year and  served (except live music shows vocals)

they are apparently better than BP now so I’d like to see it, that’s it  I feel like they need to get rid of the „perfect picture” image first, but then their concept limits them so I can understand that 

 

but still to say they are better than BP, when first they need to surpass Itzy, NMIXX and NJ is…. 

8 hours ago, SpankGangsta said:

Jesus christ let me lick that armpit 

not into armpits, but his body though>>>

3 hours ago, MonsterNavy said:

 

flops casually setting and breaking records  

 

 

 

Where's the 3M sales ? 

4 minutes ago, Hazy said:

they are apparently better than BP now so I’d like to see it, that’s it  I feel like they need to get rid of the „perfect picture” image first, but then their concept limits them so I can understand that 

 

but still to say they are better than BP, when first they need to surpass Itzy, NMIXX and NJ is…. 

well my point was not discussing how better than bp they are really so yeah it was just that they are starting to perform better now, but they only really need live vocals

which realistically isnt happening, not a single sm act sang live during music shows this year

When my predictions of 1.3M turns real 

the way we’re just a bit over a week away from new EXID music 

 

PINCH ME

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Mattheo said:

well my point was not discussing how better than bp they are really so yeah it was just that they are starting to perform better now, but they only really need live vocals

which realistically isnt happening, not a single sm act sang live during music shows this year

NingNing is still the only one that stands out and have something distinct about her, but SM will make sure to get rid of that, since they will force both Karina and Winter on us

 

and yeah, it’s a shame they are not letting their acts sing live, since they have the strongest vocal line in the industry… aespa lipsyncing at the university festival was the pits 

he should have opened an onlyfans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just now, Hazy said:

NingNing is still the only one that stands out and have something distinct about her, but SM will make sure to get rid of that, since they will force both Karina and Winter on us

 

and yeah, it’s a shame they are not letting their acts sing live, since they have the strongest vocal line in the industry… aespa lipsyncing at the university festival was the pits 

Ningning is the Lisa of SM

 

imagine if Ningning and Lisa are in one group, the koreans will seethe that the most charismatic and talented idols are not koreans lol

Are BP going to have to open OF?