18 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

I have a genuine question to Ktrl, since I want to know the objective opinions of non stans. Why are SKZ smashing so hard compared to the other 4th gen bgs and are so popular general? What do they have, that other 4th bgs don’t? How are they able to overcome a bullying scandal? What makes SKZ stand out? Discuss objectively.

- no matter what haters say, SKZ are undeniably talented - they write most of their music themselves and this is why it feels very genuine, it's not just some bought Western demos (not saying that buying Western demos = bad)

- they have the best rapline in 4th gen and one of the best raplines in all of kpop

- they are funny, they have personality and they go viral very often on Twitter on TikTok

- they are handsome

46 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Uhm nothing is alleged? That user literally said it himself in this thread a week ago or something???  Like I’m sure a lot of people in here remember it as well, especially that one user who asked VRX the question about whether that pic was him or not, since he wanted to have a piece of that 

never saw the original post and believe you but i'm just here for the drama

 

Edited July 20, 20224 yr by Seiko Oomori

the pink-haired dancer is doing things to me

1 minute ago, Flomik said:

the pink-haired dancer is doing things to me

key looks healthy 

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30 minutes ago, New Edition said:

 

Why did they have to make them even skinnier 

Solbin from Laboum replaced Jisoo? Great to see her getting booked

8 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

thats such weird behavior though, why would you use that as an avatar

Yeah I honestly didn’t care about that, but when he suddenly tried to join the “Garam out celebration” I had to stop

him. Like don’t throw stones when you live in a glasshouse 

Smash

 

 

Just finished her Killing Voice video

 

 

she served range and quality in 2018 

 

 

37 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

SKZ just keep smashing and winning  

Also them having 6 videos inside the top 10 of most viewed 4th gen bg mv’s of all time 

- them occupying the top 3 and Maniac will soon surpass “Blue Hour and they will occupy the top 4

 

See when you're the organic 4th gen leaders

 

 

31 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

I have a genuine question to Ktrl, since I want to know the objective opinions of non stans. Why are SKZ smashing so hard compared to the other 4th gen bgs and are so popular general? What do they have, that other 4th bgs don’t? How are they able to overcome a bullying scandal? What makes SKZ stand out? Discuss objectively.

 

10 minutes ago, Flomik said:

- no matter what haters say, SKZ are undeniably talented - they write most of their music themselves and this is why it feels very genuine, it's not just some bought Western demos (not saying that buying Western demos = bad)

- they have the best rapline in 4th gen and one of the best raplines in all of kpop

- they are funny, they have personality and they go viral very often on Twitter on TikTok

- they are handsome

   

ngl I def thought that @Vrx.'s pic was of himself and I was lowkey thirsting. but the truth is even more shocking.

 

anyways

 

did anyone try the Patbigsu? I thought the Patbingsu was lovely 

 

 

1 hour ago, Inspirit said:

 

Maybe they served. Seventeen is shaking.

wait why is this GREAT?

is really very seventeen-ish

14 minutes ago, xrosup said:

Smash

 

 

i need this to go top 10

talent winning

damn HyuNation really set themselves up

 

Heart Burn is not that good but glad queen Sunmi is getting another hit

LESSER living up to its name

 

kick Sakura next and we can talk. 

1 minute ago, jqnetto said:

LESSER living up to its name

 

kick Sakura next and we can talk. 

this

 

Can we talk about how Alcohol Free lowkey aged like fine wine

 

a lessermembers foursome would honestly challenge aespa and bp

 

29 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

I have a genuine question to Ktrl, since I want to know the objective opinions of non stans. Why are SKZ smashing so hard compared to the other 4th gen bgs and are so popular general? What do they have, that other 4th bgs don’t? How are they able to overcome a bullying scandal? What makes SKZ stand out? Discuss objectively.

BTSprint.  
This is by no means saying SKZ are copying BTS. But besides the obvious “make good music” arguments, following the BTS print is an easy way to make lots of fans quickly. 

 

•3 member rapline that produces —> BTS’ rapline = 3racha 

•Mixtapes 

•Early era socially “woke” concept to make them relatable —> BTS’ School Trilogy = Hellevator / My Pace 

•Expensive/Flashy MVs that draw locals in —> Dope/Fire/DNA/Dynamite = God’s Menu/Maniac

•Regular comebacks —> Early BTS were making 2/3 comebacks a year, similar to SKZ

•Lots of fan content/ self made variety content —> Run BTS = SKZ Code

•Group > Individual mindset —> OT7 BTS = Nine or None Eight or None!

•An eloquent leader who can be a spokesperson/translator —> RM = Bangchan

•Early international promotions like KCON/concerts. 
•Visuals —> V/Jin/Jungkook = Felix/Hyunjin

•Easy Access/ Fan Engagement —> constant Vlives/ Tweets etc.

•Debuting early in their generation/ debuting in a slow year —> BTS debuted in 2013 which was an incredibly dead year for debuts, they ended up stealing all the attention = similarly for Stray Kids they were the only bg besides Ateez that made any waves in 2018. Timing really is everything. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Seiko Oomori said:

damn HyuNation really set themselves up

 

All 3 of them?

 

3 minutes ago, the good guy_duh said:

Can we talk about how Alcohol Free lowkey aged like fine wine

 

THIS. I hope they do more genre-hopping in their old age instead of just serving basic city-pop/80s "mature" music

4 minutes ago, the good guy_duh said:

Can we talk about how Alcohol Free lowkey aged like fine wine

 

absolutely

it’s one of their best title tracks

1 hour ago, BigBangStan said:

Are you stanning The Boyz's dongsaeng? @DanyelP23

 

 

They're giving The Boyz [It's the remix] [str8 washed] in terms of visuals. IST was lucky they acquired Cre.ker and got their surgeonAltough by some of the lip fillers I saw in the trailer, Dr. Kim must've lost his touch. He peaked with Sunwoo.

I wish them luck and I will check their debut.

highkey hope they flop and serve bad noise music, so that maybe TBZ releases less noise

14 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

I don’t think you have any right to celebrate Garam’s departure, when you are literally using someone else’s thirst pic that was sent to you privately as your avi, on a public forum like Atrl  Like that’s no different from bullying 

? It literally is someone I’m f*cking you wanna smell my dick? 

5 minutes ago, BTS said:

BTSprint.  
This is by no means saying SKZ are copying BTS. But besides the obvious “make good music” arguments, following the BTS print is an easy way to make lots of fans quickly. 

 

•3 member rapline that produces —> BTS’ rapline = 3racha 

•Mixtapes 

•Early era socially “woke” concept to make them relatable —> BTS’ School Trilogy = Hellevator / My Pace 

•Expensive/Flashy MVs that draw locals in —> Dope/Fire/DNA/Dynamite = God’s Menu/Maniac

•Regular comebacks —> Early BTS were making 2/3 comebacks a year, similar to SKZ

•Lots of fan content/ self made variety content —> Run BTS = SKZ Code

•Group > Individual mindset —> OT7 BTS = Nine or None Eight or None!

•An eloquent leader who can be a spokesperson/translator —> RM = Bangchan

•Early international promotions like KCON/concerts. 
•Visuals —> V/Jin/Jungkook = Felix/Hyunjin

•Easy Access/ Fan Engagement —> constant Vlives/ Tweets etc.

•Debuting early in their generation/ debuting in a slow year —> BTS debuted in 2013 which was an incredibly dead year for debuts, they ended up stealing all the attention = similarly for Stray Kids they were the only bg besides Ateez that made any waves in 2018. Timing really is everything. 

 

 

ooh wow ur pattern tracking powerful brain! 
 

We need u to manage BP for this comeback!