Dreajae Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, BnPac said: !!! The way some here talk you would think Bey was pushing Adele's pure or Taylor Swift's pure and streaming numbers. If someone wants to stan numbers there are better artists to pick tqfh. And let's not get it twisted, charts success IS important. That's the reason why Beyoncé can pack stadiums, the reason why they call her the Queen and the reason why she can hold Hollywood parties and 41st birthday parties and there are more celebs than all events in the year. The reason why she can sell over price items like Ivy Park and the reason why Tiffany is paying her so much money to pose with their jewelry. Sade is certainly not throwing lavish Hollywood parties, she's not taking money for huge white corporations. What I hate the most about this base is how people turn their noses at people wanting charts success. Not caring about charts doesn't make you neither special, nor interesting nor deep and certainly not a better fan. There is nothing wrong with wanting your fave to succeed. This thread was busy as hell when she reached #1 on all those charts and the people who like to point out charts don't matter were the first to celebrate with corny phrases like "I don't care about charts but it sure feels good". If something sure makes you feel good or elated, you care! This. This is why I say that quote was a bit... non sensical. You're bigger than Sade. Your career path has been glamorous pop/r&b queen and you're trying to rebrand as a mystique indie artist while married to a capitalistic billionaire rap mogul where yall both brag on billions and and glamor. Pick a side boo. Are we that ***** or not? Sade ain't throwing parties for the industry. Prince was very art conscious but even he still promoted. Maybe not to the level of his 80s peers but he gave interviews and you knew what he was about.
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 If fans/stans had the same nonchalant attitude she has I bet she wouldn't continue to behave this way.
carameldelight Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keith said: If fans/stans had the same nonchalant attitude she has I bet she wouldn't continue to behave this way. Of course not but in the long run it will catch up to her. The younger generation is already tuning her out.
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Read it & weep “There’s a freedom and liberation knowing that I’ve made it to the other side of my sacrifice. I’m finally giving myself permission to enjoy the seeds I’ve worked so hard to plant my whole life.” https://www.idolator.com/7918188/beyonce-reflects-on-turning-40-ive-made-it-to-the-other-side-of-my-sacrifice More vacations, more parties. She's satisfied with her success & money. The sacrifice was giving up her childhood...ya'll not getting her kids childhood too.
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Keith said: If fans/stans had the same nonchalant attitude she has I bet she wouldn't continue to behave this way. Ya'll did that with EIL/TG and still nobody over there moved.
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, BnPac said: !!! The way some here talk you would think Bey was pushing Adele's pure or Taylor Swift's pure and streaming numbers. If someone wants to stan numbers there are better artists to pick tqfh. And let's not get it twisted, charts success IS important. That's the reason why Beyoncé can pack stadiums, the reason why they call her the Queen and the reason why she can hold Hollywood parties and 41st birthday parties and there are more celebs than all events in the year. The reason why she can sell over price items like Ivy Park and the reason why Tiffany is paying her so much money to pose with their jewelry. Sade is certainly not throwing lavish Hollywood parties, she's not taking money from huge white corporations. What I hate the most about this base is how people turn their noses at people wanting charts success. Not caring about charts makes you neither special, nor interesting nor deep and certainly not a better fan. There is nothing wrong with wanting your fave to succeed. This thread was busy as hell when she reached #1 on all those charts and the people who like to point out charts don't matter were the first to celebrate with corny phrases like "I don't care about charts but it sure feels good". If something sure makes you feel good or elated, you care! This!!!! 19 minutes ago, carameldelight said: I honestly just stopped caring about the era and haven't paid attention in the last couple of weeks, didn't even care about her bday party. Beyonce has decided she wants to be an influencer and cater to other wealthy people. She knows that fans will still buy whatever she puts out so it's not like it matters to her. She's giving very much, " let them eat cake" vibes. I'm kind of turned off as well, not going to lie. No one is asking her to be like Nicki, obsessed with her stans and have an unhealthy relationship with the internet. However I think someone like Taylor Swift has mastered a healthy balance. Mariah Carey already has #18 number ones and she still promotes and engages. That is the bare minimum. All of this but especially the bolded. That's why I'm not even excited about an Act II or Act III. I'm not spending more money on these albums. She should've did a double/triple disc and called it a day.
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: Ya'll did that with EIL/TG and still nobody over there moved. She dropped the surprise act, gave a single ahead of time and gave a heads up when the album would be released. That sounds like progress to me.
ShouldersSideways Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, carameldelight said: It's the influence of Sean " Calling me a capitalist is the equivalent of calling me a N-word" Carter. Bey is either a powerful woman in control of her own career or Jay is a Svengali pulling the strings, but she can't be both. There's a tendency to assign blame for every perceived misstep in her career to Jay, but when she's killing it she's an auteur with a vision. Bey was about money before she even got with Jay. Tina and Mathew were working their asses off her entire childhood and always wanting more. That's where she gets it. Not Jay.
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: Read it & weep “There’s a freedom and liberation knowing that I’ve made it to the other side of my sacrifice. I’m finally giving myself permission to enjoy the seeds I’ve worked so hard to plant my whole life.” https://www.idolator.com/7918188/beyonce-reflects-on-turning-40-ive-made-it-to-the-other-side-of-my-sacrifice More vacations, more parties. She's satisfied with her success & money. The sacrifice was giving up her childhood...ya'll not getting her kids childhood too. She can get songs sent to the radio, release singles and acknowledge the music from her yacht. We're not asking her to do a press run all over the world
ShouldersSideways Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, sillycilla said: You'd be hard pressed to find a celebrity from the 80s-2000s that doesn't have a photo with him. If they really wanna "threaten" her they should pull out the Gaddafi private concert footage.
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: What's different from any other era? Mine, Hold Up, Find Your Way Back, Blow, All Night She doesn't care and Columbia seems to have come to terms with it too Those 3 really had great potential smfh. Nah but what I meant was its been some years and her recent outputs like EIL/TG people didn’t care for. But then drop an album her pop and urban audience soaking up and we back to the same old.
PrettyHurts Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 I never understood when yall said songs from ST and Lemons had hit potential. They're all mid-tempo songs, they were never going to smash
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, carameldelight said: That part! See that frustration I can understand esp tour-wise. Usually artists perform they biggest hits on tour but looking back … she doesn’t really have many hits of the 2010s. All the songs that had potential to be hit singles are fan faves now. as long as she still recognize certain songs on future tours i won’t be mad lol
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Imagine getting mad at fans for wanting more (for her benefit) when we're the reason she's successful. CD's, vinyls and iTunes are obsolete and serves no purpose in 2022, do she/you think we bought those things to actually use
ShouldersSideways Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 The GP will come see her for the next twenty years off her 2000s output alone. And it's not as if ST and Lemonade were flashes in the pan
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: I never understood when yall said songs from ST and Lemons had hit potential. They're all mid-tempo songs, they were never going to smash In that case why did DIL and Formation do well? 2013 and 2016 were years when urban music was pop music + she had a lot of people focusing on her at the time.
ShouldersSideways Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Keith said: Imagine getting mad at fans for wanting more (for her benefit) when we're the reason she's successful. CD's, vinyls and iTunes are obsolete and serves no purpose in 2022, do she/you think we bought those things to actually use More is coming, though. We know the visuals exist. Not to mention two more entire albums of music. Edited September 14, 2022 by ShouldersSideways
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: I never understood when yall said songs from ST and Lemons had hit potential. They're all mid-tempo songs, they were never going to smash I agree with this about Lemonade. 1 minute ago, Devin said: In that case why did DIL and Formation do well? 2013 and 2016 were years when urban music was pop music + she had a lot of people focusing on her at the time. Those songs are nothing like the rest of the album either. ST stood a better chance though for the most part.
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Keith said: I agree with this about Lemonade. Those songs are nothing like the rest of the album either. ST stood a better chance though for the most part. I mean Lemonade (outside a few tracks) wasn’t radio friendly. But ST definitely had a chance.
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 every song on 4 was a flop....yet its the 2nd most streamed female album from 2011 above albums that had multiple #1 songs. flop songs like "Love On Top" & "Run the World" have more streams than #1 hits suddenly no one will know a Beyonce song other than CIL or Halo is another example of this corny doomsday cringefest hysteria in here. can't even take this serious b/c there's no way it is. all of this simply b/c there's no video out.
sillycilla Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) The truth is Beyoncé is more afraid of flopping than you think. The nonchalance behavior is all an act. There’s a disconnect on songs she likes and what fans like. That’s why she did the whole give a song to urban and pop simultaneously. Stop trying to guess what stations will play or not and just embrace your single. She thought Single Ladies was an urban only song initially. ??That’s why BMS/Crazy in Love/ Deja Vu, Drunk in love worked. RTW spooked her for whatever reason. Edited September 14, 2022 by sillycilla
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Still can’t get over XO and Pretty Hurts being single worthy over Mine and Blow.
Mitsouko Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 She can take vacations and throw parties and still release her tours for her fans to watch, for instance, like any popstar or rockstar would do at a minimum. Leisure time for the billionairess and content are not mutually exclusive, especially when said content already exists but is intentionally withheld for god knows what stupid invented reason. Miss girl just thinks she's doing sumn but she's seriously misled. Her judgment is flawed and we can say it chile
BnPac Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, Keith said: She can get songs sent to the radio, release singles and acknowledge the music from her yacht. We're not asking her to do a press run all over the world !!!! Like the emotional twisted guilt trip always happening in this thread is so weird. What does her sacrificing her youth have to do with sending songs to radio? What does it have to do with putting a word out about your single? What does it have to do with telling your team to do all that? What does it have to do with putting songs on Spotify? And most importantly what does it have to do with caring a little bit about your fans? That lavish party that she threw for some of the lowest of Hollywood like Kardashians and Megan Fox took more organization, fanfare, money and CARE than she has given to us since ST. I was so admirative of Drake's socks until I realize they all received that. They received fancy packages with beautiful socks and some other custom items for free. That's so cool. Those socks are so cool and they look like quality. And that had me thinking, what do we get for our money : a lazy shitty all black box, with an awful cartoon poster and a 1-dollar T-shirt that is already falling apart. Not to mention it came late and had double fees for some of us. The reasoning also doesn't make sense when she's been putting high-budget commercials for Ivy Park every six months and pushing it every where. Even in France, where I haven't seen a video of hers on TV since RTW. IVP has TV spots, huge Instagram compaigns, huge push on IG, she posted it on all her socials and her IG is literally her either poing as an influencer or IVP's promotion. it is promoted to hell and back! Does it not feel like a sacrifice when it likes directly in her pockets?
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