TaylenaStan Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, Hot Volcano said: this is something that definitely shouldn't be ignored. She promoted this album more than anyone lese promoted their album this whole year WHAT promotion? We literally got 0 pre-release tracks and just because she announced the album a couple months in advance doesnt mean we got promotion leading up to the album.. the only promo she did was IN release week and you cant tell me that 30 had less promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Well Oh my God is going to radio so I anticipate solid support throughout q1 2022. I believe 30 will win the long game if they put out 3 more singles in 2022 This thread is going to get to 20 pages...I just know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, slw84 said: This is including Black Friday sales... Adele remains a legend but I was thinking around 375-450k due to Black Friday's boost. It's the same percentage drop as 25. Your lack of understanding sales doesn't make it disappointing expecting her to have a 50% drop from 839k in 2021 just because it's a holiday week Edited November 30, 2021 by Gaia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgechxng Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, TaylenaStan said: We'll see if this can outperform folklore/lover longevity-wise What the hell is this comparison? Both albums had massive drops on its 2nd week. 30 can't relate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, TaylenaStan said: WHAT promotion? We literally got 0 pre-release tracks and just because she announced the album a couple months in advance doesnt mean we got promotion leading up to the album.. the only promo she did was IN release week and you cant tell me that 30 had less promotion Can you give me a list of Adele's US promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mael Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, slw84 said: This is including Black Friday sales... Adele remains a legend but I was thinking around 375-450k due to Black Friday's boost. Yeah, I was expecting ~30% drop, but it is why it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, JawBreaker said: Yeah you are but it's understandable cuz I would too if I stanned someone that hasnt had a studio album make it to 100 weeks since their debut album This narrative "you can only come for my fave, if your fave is doing better!1111!!" is so childish As I've said, it's a public music forum with thousands of members of different artists, this just happens to be the current main topic of the entire forum, why wouldn't I participate since I'm already an active member in the Charts section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgechxng Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gaia said: It's the same percentage drop as 25. Your lack of understanding sales doesn't make it disappointing expecting her to have a 50% drop from 839k in 2021 just because it's a holiday week the fact that it had the same exact drop 25 had in its 2nd week when black friday doesn't boost album numbers like it used to do before is so impressive I could see this doing +100k pure at least for more 3/4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawBreaker Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 OTHs can't stand the fact that a RERECORDING is doing well Billboard themselves claimed it's the first album of it's kind in HISTORY to pull those numbers. So yeah it's not something common. It shouldn't even be charting in the first place but here it is. BILLBOARD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ATRL user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gaia said: It's the same percentage drop as 25. Your lack of understanding sales doesn't make it disappointing expecting her to have a 50% drop from 839k in 2021 just because it's a holiday week I"m probably just outdated because I know back in the day Black Friday sales reduced the percentage a bit but it is possible that i'm still thinking about the digital era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, georgechxng said: biggest 2nd week of sales for female albums in the past 6 years: adele. 25 - 1.12M (-68%) beyoncé. lemonade - 321k (-50%) adele. 30 - 260k (-68%) taylor swift. reputation - 256k (-79%) olivia rodrigo. sour - 183k (-36%) 25's numbers were just... The real music industry. Others only made their 1M first week and that was it, but Adele was just insane, huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gaia said: It's the same percentage drop as 25. Your lack of understanding sales doesn't make it disappointing expecting her to have a 50% drop from 839k in 2021 just because it's a holiday week he isn't even trying with his trolling attempts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, mael said: Yeah, I was expecting ~30% drop, but it is why it is. Mama Adele is still winning and she has two-three more hits left in the era so I'm hoping it stays in the 100k-200k range in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punky Rooster Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 King of Christmas at #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightDragonsWithMe Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Which weeks did 25 sell 1M+ again these are good numbers for Adele tho, Taylor smashing with Red TV still is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slobro Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Jennifer said: Very solid pure sales. The streams are garbage tho. Next week will be more of a test because of the Black Friday boost here. It's just not a streaming friendly album. Only 12 songs on the streaming edition, of which half are 5-6+ minute songs, voice notes and monologues as outros on multiple songs, Target exclusive tracks not uploaded on streaming platforms People drag 25 but every song on that album could've been a single and sound more like a hit than anything on 30. Edited November 30, 2021 by slobro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtripped Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Not bad for Adele. Red is holding pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, TaylenaStan said: OTHs lost it omfg YES this is a rerecording album.. and yes 9 ''new'' songs.. well songs that are LEFTOVERS from 2011/2012 Those are definitely not comparable to a completely new album lmao Adele releases like what... every 5/6 years? ofc we expect the album to do better since she is supposed to build immense hype with her releases being so rare.. 30 is literally doing 59k on streaming in its second week.. its NOT good in any way, doesnt matter if its just 12 tracks. SOUR and other albums with similar amount of tracks did way better The pure sales are obviously good, but you can only have good longevity with consistent streaming in the long run We'll see if this can outperform folklore/lover longevity-wise Why does it matter that they are leftovers they are still new songs to GP. How will Taylor's next album's number look like to Red TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, slw84 said: I"m probably just outdated because I know back in the day Black Friday sales reduced the percentage a bit but it is possible that i'm still thinking about the digital era. Girl I went shopping on Friday and hardly anyone was at Target. it's nothing like the past where there were lines outside of stores and huge traffic in retail stores to drive sales. It virtually does nothing with everyone ordering online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, TaylenaStan said: WHAT promotion? We literally got 0 pre-release tracks and just because she announced the album a couple months in advance doesnt mean we got promotion leading up to the album.. the only promo she did was IN release week and you cant tell me that 30 had less promotion I- Are you really gonna force me to list all the promotion Taylor did compared to Adele? ffs, the music video premiere alone was like a movie debut event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildHeart Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Taylor was clearly not happy at all with the performance of Fearless.. The same album grossed 8M USD in few months in US alone? 29 minutes ago, spree said: Madonna - Immaculate Collection Beatles - 1 - Diamond The Eagles - Greatest Hits - Double Diamond just to name 3. Immaculate collection - Debuts at #32 1 - Debuts with 595,000 in 2000 Greatest Hits - Debuts at #4 Thanks for proving my point. Not even biggest artists were able to debut with 600k when sales climate was much better and somehow, today in 2021, debuting with 600k is... easy. Also would you like to name any album from...you know... last 10 years or streaming era at least? Comparing these numbers with the likes of Madonna and Beatles only makes Taylor a favor. Edited November 30, 2021 by Artistofthedecade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgechxng Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gaia said: It's the same percentage drop as 25. Your lack of understanding sales doesn't make it disappointing expecting her to have a 50% drop from 839k in 2021 just because it's a holiday week the fact that it's the same drop 25 had its 2nd week is so impressive I could see this doing +100k pure at least for more 3/4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I saw somewhere sometime that Lemonade is currently the last album to sell 2 million pure sales in the USA. Is that still true? Wonder if 30 can reach that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopFan1996 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, JawBreaker said: BILLBOARD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ATRL user Good because Billboard themselves called 30's numbers impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael196 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, Gaia said: She treated Fearless TV as a re-release. Tracklist wasn't revealed until April 3rd. Album released April 8th. No TV promo slots or live performances. No music videos. Only 6 unreleased songs. She treated Red TV as a new album. Album revealed in June. Pre-order and track list started in August. Album was released in November (4 months of pre-orders and hyping on social media). Created a Tik Tok just to promote Red TV. 9 new songs. Multiple TV promo slots release week. SNL performance + skits. 1 music video + 1 short film reenacting her love with a famous A-List actor. The complete difference in how she treated Fearless compared to Red is kind of funny We LOVE a stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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