James_Joint

Choosing Texas Jk it was Touch My Body by Mariah Carey

Most people probably just dont know yet, I didn't.

Girl, she was blowing up before the SNL performance and then that actually derailed it. I've seen her live and she was incredible, I know she's not the most consistent live performer though.

I think it's both. I feel like Formation was the last time I heard a Beyonce song that sounded unique and was enjoyable. A lot of her music now is just generic slop, written by 100 people, made with 50 samples, and then passed off as this brilliant experimental music by the media while the GP listens and either praises it without listening to it again or sits there baffled by all the awards and acclaim thrown at it. This is simultaneously while her whole persona is no longer relatable and the ridiculous amount of awards and praise she gets, has made it very "sheep-like" to also praise her or be a fan.

Rih, Bey and Taylor all released their solo debuts within 3 years. Beyonce has consistently released albums since her debut; there is no reason why she couldn't pull the same streams as them, but hers are significantly lower. And not even just compared to them two, they're nothing significant when compared to all hit music (songs and albums) released the same years as hers. Her streams aren't good, especially considering yall would argue in a second that her music has more "impact" than all of these other artists

Her fans like talking about her music and cosplaying like they're music critics, I mean read what you wrote up there I know streams don't = quality music, but Beyonce is not some indie artist whose music has to be "discovered", like be for real. She has one of the biggest platforms and gets more exposure than 99.999% of all artists and the fact that her music doesn't get good streams is proof that the majority of people don't actually think it's great, and the pure irony is that despite all the "cultural impact!!" claims by her fans, used to offset lack of tangible numbers, time is showing that her music is actually not lasting or impactful at all. She has a few classic hits, that's it. The rest is a pushed narrative by critics and a small group of hardcore fans, with much of the GP being convinced the critical acclaim is not even organic The fact that Lana Del Rey's music is more listened to, pretty much says it all.

Does critical acclaim make lasting, culturally impactful music? Will people look back on Beyonces music and remember it because every publication praised it and she won Grammys? No. This is what I mean by focusing on the music.

If it's Christina's voice and her career, then easily Taylor. Despite her talent, Christina is most known for being mean to Melanie Martinez on the voice.

We have no idea where she really stands. Look at Kacey Musgraves and Maren Morris though; not every white female country singer is MAGA. Her liking and supporting Kacey says she might lean left, but performing at Kid Rocks festival would obviously say she leans right. She's probably going to keep herself in a gray area for the time being. It's not like artists like Beyonce or Taylor are always vocal about where they stand.

Selena Gómez is the worst, but Taylor might be the worst for an artist of her success caliber.

You're right, which makes it even crazier that somehow the music is still not listened to.

I'm sorry but I had to stop reading at "no social media spamming". Do you live in an alternate reality where the multi-week #1 hit "Texas Hold 'Em" wasn't spammed everywhere on social media? It may not be from Beyonce herself, but her music is absolutely spammed everywhere on social media. You said it yourself, the world chimes in when she releases music, where does that chiming in take place? Y'all are honestly so funny

Not to mention the halftime show she did, a multi-week #1 viral lead single, and winning the coveted grammy AOTY. The album fell off the charts completely after a mere 28 weeks, and only because of all these things did it even appear back on the charts It's pretty obvious the GP and her fans both said no to the music.

With albums like Cowboy Carter and Renaissance doing 500-600k daily streams, singles from those albums like Texas Hold 'Em (175k daily) and Break My Soul (66k daily) being seemingly forgotten, and not a single classic hit with more than 1M daily streams, what should Beyonce do to generate and/or revive interest in her music? When it comes to acclaim and awards, I'm not sure that it could even be possible to garner more of this for any future album release, but it doesn't seem to help her albums have longevity. When it comes to hit songs, Texas Hold 'Em and Break My Soul were #1 "hits", with the former being practically inescapable on social media. To this day, if I were to hear that song, I would immediately envision time-lapsed arts and crafts and cooking videos. Despite this, it also did not help her albums have longevity. A pushed narrative around the album: Beyonce albums have become less about actually listening to and enjoying the music, and more about a "narrative" surrounding each album. This approach has brought in much discussion upon the albums release, but again, has not resulted in the music having any lasting impact. If you were Beyoncé's team, what approach would you take to put more focus on the actual music and the GP's desire to listen to it? IMO, they shouldn't let the publications run wild with the praise and acclaim- it's not making anyone actually listen to the music, and has actually baffled the public to the extent that it's resulted in online conspiracies. Let the music do the convincing, and let the narrative around the album be that the music is good. thoughts?

Speaking of off-topic, no one mentioned TF or TFM And I'm referring to Lady Gaga's ego at the time of BTW, such as her declaring it the "greatest album of the decade" before it came out, and mind you it came out 2 years into the decade I'm not saying it was a bad album, but it was very apparent she now thought everything she did was "high-art", while ironically releasing the worst music videos of her career and the theatrics that she once did so well, now becoming eye-roll inducing.