Ego. Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Some of you do come across as big time haters the way you're always bashing other successful female artists for no reason That said, I don't think there's any point in comparing someone like beyonce to Gaga. Their process and style of music is so different it seems weird to compare their output, though I do agree it would be nice to see Gaga take on the same level of professionalism 2
Vroom Vroom Posted April 2 Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Ego. said: Some of you do come across as big time haters the way you're always bashing other successful female artists for no reason That said, I don't think there's any point in comparing someone like beyonce to Gaga. Their process and style of music is so different it seems weird to compare their output, though I do agree it would be nice to see Gaga take on the same level of professionalism This is the Gaga base. Gaga is #1 in here
Chaos Angel Posted April 2 Posted April 2 (edited) If we do really have to wait until next year for LG7, I do at least hope it will have a longer length than her past couple releases. I know streaming has been making projects shorter, but it's sad to see her albums become shorter and shorter since BTW Lengths including all officially released songs: The Fame - 60 minutes The Fame Monster - 34 minutes Born This Way - 73 minutes ARTPOP - 59 minutes Joanne - 47 minutes Chromatica - 43 minutes I know she can technically still release a good short album but something about her longer projects just hit more. I also want some experimental detours in the production which would likely require a longer length. Edited April 2 by Chaos Angel 1 1
Ego. Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: This is the Gaga base. Gaga is #1 in here Where did I imply otherwise? Just weird that some users can't have her as #1 without trashing others 3 1
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted April 2 Posted April 2 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ego. said: Where did I imply otherwise? Just weird that some users can't have her as #1 without trashing others Tearing down other artists to make Gaga feel bigger comes off as deeply insecure! You can love Gaga and her music without shading other musicians. What a concept Edited April 2 by CoolNebraskaGuy 9
Popular Post Aden Posted April 2 Popular Post Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said: I feel like fans have said this about every album since ARTPOP. Fans keep saying that every album is make it or break it, but she has kind of proved that is not true. As long as she keeps snatching exciting movie roles, she will be a force in all spheres of pop culture. 1 hour ago, Miracle said: Make it or break it? After 16 years? Y'all crazy. She's a cemented legend. Gaga's too iconic to fade into 100% irrelevancy but for someone who touts her love for music, it's not the most ideal look if films end up coming to her rescue to salvage average albums. She has a golden and extraordinarilly rare opportunity to master acting and music simultaneously without compromising the other. Girls who played in both spaces like Cher, JLo, Streisand, etc. are icons/legends but they arguably found more success in their acting/TV ventures. Gaga on the other hand has the commercial scale, fandom, and momentum to make it both as a huge popstar and a huge actress. It's pretty unheard of. Yes, fans can be too critical at times but we also encourage her to push her limits because deep down we know we're stanning a very special artist that has always been rare to come by and is the last or her kind. 13 4
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted April 2 Posted April 2 6 minutes ago, Aden said: Gaga's too iconic to fade into 100% irrelevancy but for someone who touts her love for music, it's not the most ideal look if films end up coming to her rescue to salvage average albums. She has a golden and extraordinarilly rare opportunity to master acting and music simultaneously without compromising the other. Girls who played in both spaces like Cher, JLo, Streisand, etc. are icons/legends but they arguably found more success in their acting/TV ventures. Gaga on the other hand has the commercial scale, fandom, and momentum to make it both as a huge popstar and a huge actress. It's pretty unheard of. Yes, fans can be too critical at times but we also encourage her to push her limits because deep down we know we're stanning a very special artist that has always been rare to come by and is the last or her kind. Spill it, Aden. SPILL!! 2
H34rtOfCharcoal Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Just now, CoolNebraskaGuy said: Spill it, Aden. SPILL!! 2
Leptine Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 hours ago, Lady Claire said: A musical covering classics that dives deep into themes of mental health with dark undertones is SO Gaga coded. There's literally no one that could do that job but her, i'm sure Todd will say that on interviews. It had to be her. I'm so excited It's honestly kind of crazy how her Jazz/Traditional music skills started with the first Tony duet so many years ago are going to be showcased to a very big general audience, it's truly like she was destined to make this project. 2
tost1 Posted April 2 Posted April 2 5 hours ago, FameFatale said: Tiktok challenge. Dressing normal for the "you can do anything you want" followed by a transition dressed in Harley/Joker attire saying "you're Joker" Add the audio to this 6
SweetOreosOfHeaven Posted April 2 Posted April 2 6 minutes ago, Leptine said: It's honestly kind of crazy how her Jazz/Traditional music skills started with the first Tony duet so many years ago are going to be showcased to a very big general audience, it's truly like she was destined to make this project. Exactly. This project checks all the boxes. 1
Kimi Posted April 2 Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said: I feel like fans have said this about every album since ARTPOP. Fans keep saying that every album is make it or break it, but she has kind of proved that is not true. As long as she keeps snatching exciting movie roles, she will be a force in all spheres of pop culture. you are not wrong lmao, some ppl can't accept that tfm and btw are enough. she already has her classics and she can make more but doesn't have to.
Leptine Posted April 2 Posted April 2 30 minutes ago, Ego. said: Some of you do come across as big time haters the way you're always bashing other successful female artists for no reason That said, I don't think there's any point in comparing someone like beyonce to Gaga. Their process and style of music is so different it seems weird to compare their output, though I do agree it would be nice to see Gaga take on the same level of professionalism It's not really about bashing other successful female artists, part of this fanbase is just tired to see the others getting constantly praised for everything while on the contrary Gaga being punctually downplayed in everything. You have people calling Beyoncé a genius for going to a country direction with that kind of aesthetics, whereas when Gaga did something similar back then with 'Joanne' she was trashed to death to these days. If she would have released a rock album for LG7 by now, it would be the same, tones of people would trash it, Beyoncé does it, a genius. 3 1
Kimi Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said: Exactly. This project checks all the boxes. and thats why fad might be her next opus, not lg7 it has the narrative, now lets see if it has any quality 1
Puttanesca Posted April 2 Posted April 2 While it would be cool for Gar to release an album produced impeccably like Bey, there's an authenticity to Gaga's music that Bey is just lacking imo. Yeah, writing camps can make you an incredible album, but to this day I have no idea what Bey's authentic voice is in her music. Plus, Gaga tried passing around her music during Chrome and it just didn't work imo. Max Martin didn't help her for ****. 4 1
Leptine Posted April 2 Posted April 2 The 'Cabaret' rumors came back to my mind. Probably there's going to be one song from it, Gaga covering both mother and daughter on the smae movie would be iconic. 1
SweetOreosOfHeaven Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Leptine said: The 'Cabaret' rumors came back to my mind. Probably there's going to be one song from it, Gaga covering both mother and daughter on the smae movie would be iconic. I don't think her presenting with Liza during the Oscars was for nothing tbh.
Kimi Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Leptine said: You have people calling Beyoncé a genius for going to a country direction with that kind of aesthetics, whereas when Gaga did something similar back then with 'Joanne' she was trashed to death to these days. becauseeee for idk the millionthhhh time beyonce has a good narrative around going country while gar didn't have any dead aunt, stripped after flop, i wanna be relatable to average ppl etc. none of that is acclaim worthy. b is reclaiming country to black people. you see the difference? but lets come back to gaga - look at chromatica, the narrative was coming back to dance anthems but making it mental health and it was almost universally acclaimed. that's it, something so simple. to be acclaimed you have to deliver quality and know whats your place in the music world. and if you wanna change your place or add another narrative it's gonna take time - gaga and her american songbook for example, she's still not there but love for sale got much warmer reception. 5
Leptine Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Just now, SweetOreosOfHeaven said: I don't think her presenting with Liza during the Oscars was for nothing tbh. I think the same, also because the Cabaret rumors came out properly around the same time (January-February 2022) of the first mention from Deuxmoi of Gaga playing this role. 1
State of Grace. Posted April 2 Posted April 2 13 minutes ago, Kimi said: you are not wrong lmao, some ppl can't accept that tfm and btw are enough. she already has her classics and she can make more but doesn't have to. I don't understand this logic...so because she already has enough classics from TF/TFM/BTW, she can spend the rest of her career doing whatever? I mean sure she can, but it would be more exciting if she challenges herself again, artistically of course, because irdgaf about the commercial success and she doesn't have much left to prove in that area anyway. Your best & strongest material (according to fans and critics) being from your first few years is...not a good thing, especially when we know that she is capable of doing better. What she needs is a really strong body of work that gets hailed as a magnum opus by everyone from critics to liddos to casual listeners to haters. That would only happen if she keeps reinventing herself authentically and focusing on what she excels at. 8 3
Aden Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Random thought I had: What if she hasn't removed her Chromatica avi and bio because she's planning to release an EP that extends the album à la The Fame Monster? An EP would be a perfect droplet before Joker and wouldn't require a planned era. It's sort of what Miley did with She is Coming EP in 2019 before dropping Plastic Hearts in 2020. Doing so would give LG7 ample runway to have its own moment in 2025. She gave Chromarica a 2024 moment with Fortnite. Imagine her releasing unreleased Chrome material and getting the CB Film out of the way in the summer while she's in Vegas. 1
Kimi Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Just now, State of Grace. said: I don't understand this logic...so because she already has enough classics from TF/TFM/BTW, she can spend the rest of her career doing whatever? I mean sure she can, but it would be more exciting if she challenges herself again, artistically of course, because irdgaf about the commercial success and she doesn't have much left to prove in that area anyway. Your best & strongest material (according to fans and critics) being from your first few years is...not a good thing, especially when we know that she is capable of doing better. What she needs is a really strong body of work that gets hailed as a magnum opus by everyone from critics to liddos to casual listeners to haters. That would only happen if she keeps reinventing herself authentically and focusing on what she excels at. from her perspetive, or idk pop music scholar perspetive - yes she doesn't have to do anything else, shes already iconic. im not anti classic album lmao but i also understand whyit might never come. just being real.
Leptine Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Kimi said: becauseeee for idk the millionthhhh time beyonce has a good narrative around going country while gar didn't have any dead aunt, stripped after flop, i wanna be relatable to average ppl etc. none of that is acclaim worthy. b is reclaiming country to black people. you see the difference? but lets come back to gaga - look at chromatica, the narrative was coming back to dance anthems but making it mental health and it was almost universally acclaimed. that's it, something so simple. to be acclaimed you have to deliver quality and know whats your place in the music world. and if you wanna change your place or add another narrative it's gonna take time - gaga and her american songbook for example, she's still not there but love for sale got much warmer reception. I don't judge a music project based on a pushed 'narrative' behind it, I couldn't care less about 'narratives' and who has the better PR machine behind to create them, I judge the music with my own taste. 'Joanne' was and remains a valid album and project to me, regardless of the 'dead aunt' narrative behind it. 5
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