PrettyHurts Posted March 12 Posted March 12 why am i starting to love the title messy and hated, but soon to be iconic and camp 1 1
Burn Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ChrisB said: 9. Virgo's Groove 3 minutes ago, satellites.™ said: Virgo's Groove is Track 9 on RENAISSANCE and we know thanks to the lyrics of Signs, Bey starts with Capricorn as 1. Wait I never knew the logic behind this. Well. At least she’s more subtle about it than most. Edited March 12 by Burn
kimberly Posted March 12 Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: This false equivalency Michelle Obama is known to the public as Michelle Obama. She became famous because she is the wife of a president. That is her whole brand. Beyoncé not only exists outside of her husband, she also is a bigger entity. A better comparison would be Barack releasing a book under Barack LaVaughn Robinson. Obama is Michelle's last name. Robinson isn't Barack's last name. in the same way Carter is Beyoncé's last name. and while "Beyoncé Carter" isn't a thing, everybody knows her as Beyoncé Knowles-Carter and Mrs. Carter. these have been a part of her brand for over a decade. whether you like it or not, which is what we're debating, I think. you can dislike it but pretending it's a FACT that the Carter family name is unknown and cheapens her work is... mess. 1
MrPiggyMoka Posted March 12 Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: This false equivalency Michelle Obama is known to the public as Michelle Obama. She became famous because she is the wife of a president. That is her whole brand. Beyoncé not only exists outside of her husband, she also is a bigger entity. A better comparison would be Barack releasing a book under Barack LaVaughn Robinson. Ok and she is also a Carter, can we move on? Jesus 1
Burn Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Some of these OBHs are insane. Imagine having the gall to think you can tell someone that you don’t know what they should and shouldn’t call themselves. 2
Space&Time Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) If Beyoncé were to divorce Jay-Z tomorrow, she would still be Beyoncé Carter and keep the name (unless or until she got remarried). It’s her family name that she shares with her kids. It’s the name she daydreamed of having when she was dangerously in love over 20 years ago. She wears it’s proudly. I get ya’ll wanting to view sis as strong and independent or something, but she is, for the most part doing what any normal American woman would do. Can we normalize the name Beyonce Carter. It’s been 16 years! I don’t know why ya’ll view her using her legal name as a weakness or the opposite of feminism. Like sis is in line with society she lives in. Edited March 12 by Space&Time 2 2
Blue Rose Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, kimberly said: Obama is Michelle's last name. Robinson isn't Barack's last name. in the same way Carter is Beyoncé's last name. and while "Beyoncé Carter" isn't a thing, everybody knows her as Beyoncé Knowles-Carter and Mrs. Carter. these have been a part of her brand for over a decade. whether you like it or not, which is what we're debating, I think. you can dislike it but pretending it's a FACT that the Carter family name is unknown and cheapens her work is... mess. Yes Carter is her last name, and it’s a cute name i will add, but the name is attached to another public figure with whom she has had a tumultuous relationship. People will always have a strong reaction when he’s in the picture whether you like it or not. I just would rather her album to not play into that controversial hand. If this was Blue’s album, the title would’ve been instantly iconic but it’s not, it’s thee Beyoncé. 2 1
futuresuperstar2023 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 How would the title having Carter cheapen Bey album when her husband is a successful Rapper and Mogul that is a Billionaire? Beyonce and Jay Z are a power couple whether Y'all like it or not. I'm indifferent towards Jay but lets not act like that man is irrelevant. Bey has a more international fanbase but Jay Z been famous since the mid 90's. 1 1
SashaDevachelli Posted March 13 Posted March 13 If we’re getting bonus tracks then I’m 100% here for this alleged Jolene cover my concern was it potentially taking up a track on the album as opposed to a original song 1
Blue Rose Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, Space&Time said: If Beyoncé were to divorce Jay-Z tomorrow, she would still be Beyoncé Carter and keep the name (unless or until she got remarried). It’s her family name that she shares with her kids. It’s the name she daydreamed of having when she was dangerously in love over 20 years ago. She wears it’s proudly. I get ya’ll wanting to view sis as strong and independent or something, but she is, for the most part doing what any normal American woman would do. Can we normalize the name Beyonce Carter. It’s been 16 years! I don’t know why ya’ll view her using her legal name as a weakness or the opposite of feminism. Like sis is in line with society she lives in. When Tina got remarried, people were still calling her Tina Knowles. Celebrity names just tend to stuck. It’s just how it is.
Burn Posted March 13 Posted March 13 No amount of complaining is gonna make her change the name of the album. It’s done. Fortunately we live in a day and age where you can edit music tags on your preferred music streaming site/application so you can just change the title to something you prefer and live in bliss! 4
sillycilla Posted March 13 Posted March 13 The Mrs Carter tour, The Carters, etc.. We get it. Something new could have been used. Betty Black was so epic imo. Anyways, it is what it is.
Space&Time Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Blue Rose said: When Tina got remarried, people were still calling her Tina Knowles. Celebrity names just tend to stuck. It’s just how it is. But the puclic is not going to be confused by Beyoncé using the Carter name for tours or album titles, when they know her first as Beyonce’. As long as when you type in the search “Beyonce” and the album “Cowboy Carter” is the first result- it literally doesn’t matter. 2
sillycilla Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Jay took Bey’s last name when they got married right? Waiting for his Knowles-Cater IV album. 1
kimberly Posted March 13 Posted March 13 7 minutes ago, Space&Time said: If Beyoncé were to divorce Jay-Z tomorrow, she would still be Beyoncé Carter and keep the name (unless or until she got remarried). It’s her family name that she shares with her kids. It’s the name she daydreamed of having when she was dangerously in love over 20 years ago. She wears it’s proudly. I get ya’ll wanting to view sis as strong and independent or something, but she is, for the most part doing what any normal American woman would do. Can we normalize the name Beyonce Carter. It’s been 16 years! I don’t know why ya’ll view her using her legal name as a weakness or the opposite of feminism. Like sis is in line with society she lives in. 2 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said: How would the title having Carter cheapen Bey album when her husband is a successful Rapper and Mogul that is a Billionaire? Beyonce and Jay Z are a power couple whether Y'all like it or not. I'm indifferent towards Jay but lets not act like that man is irrelevant. Bey has a more international fanbase but Jay Z been famous since the mid 90's. thank you! Beyoncé is strong, independent, and she loves her husband & her family. she doesn't care if randoms (who will still go stream her music and buy tickets to her tour, might I add) don't like her man. Jay Z is still a huge name in the industry. he's not a pop girl doesn't mean he's irrelevant. he's still highly regarded as a GOAT and a business mogul. 3
Blue Rose Posted March 13 Posted March 13 13 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said: Ok and she is also a Carter, can we move on? Jesus girl, the album title was only revealed few hours ago, we still have 40 days of arguments left. You can ignore, block or leave. Jesus
Lose My Breath Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, sillycilla said: The Mrs Carter tour, The Carters, etc.. We get it. Something new could have been used. Betty Black was so epic imo. Anyways, it is what it is. I feel like Betty Black is the rock album
MrPiggyMoka Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Blue Rose said: girl, the album title was only revealed few hours ago, we still have 40 days of arguments left. You can ignore, block or leave. Jesus Also true, please continue with your meltdown about her government surname sis… you go girl 1 1
Navyboy20 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: Yes Carter is her last name, and it’s a cute name i will add, but the name is attached to another public figure with whom she has had a tumultuous relationship. People will always have a strong reaction when he’s in the picture whether you like it or not. I just would rather her album to not play into that controversial hand. If this was Blue’s album, the title would’ve been instantly iconic but it’s not, it’s thee Beyoncé. I like how you refer to Jay-Z has "another public figure with whom she has had a tumultuous relationship" as if they're not together anymore. Jay-Z & Beyonce are a brand. When you're dragging Jay-Z you're dragging Beyonce indirectly it's impossible to separate the two when they're married, live together, have three kids and literally go everywhere and do everything together. Yall didn't listen to Everything is Love and it shows (which was *after* Lemonade btw) 1 1
ReneighIsHere Posted March 13 Posted March 13 52 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said: I’m just so curious how visuals will be handled… are we going to get them in one giant film that ties all the albums together? Separate videos that randomly drop? Or is it delusional to think we’re getting any cause they’re scrapped? Why is Jlo over? Far too many questions, not enough answers word on the street is that it’s a 2 part film with the first film containing music from act I and act II and a final film for act III.. it would be smart cause one film for the three acts would be too long and (and it would drop not earlier than 2026 ) 1
Blue Rose Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, Space&Time said: But the puclic is not going to be confused by Beyoncé using the Carter name for tours or album titles, when they know her first as Beyonce’. As long as when you type in the search “Beyonce” and the album “Cowboy Carter” is the first result- it literally doesn’t matter. No one will be confused but everyone will say it’s an album dedicated to her husband and some of us don’t like that. She has been force feeding us JayZ for a long time and every time people have the same reaction. It’s just not worth it. I know the album will be a masterpiece so I wanted it to have a more iconic title. The fact remains a lot of people have been criticizing the title. We can’t just erase their opinions because some of the points they’ve made are valid. The Kiss Ass Hive that brought up Maybelline Carter as some deep meaning are actually the ones doing her more disservice because that woman stole music from black people and never credited or paid them. 3 1 1
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