*-ChriZ-* Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: The fact that it’s happening in Dubai is less disappointing than the fact that it’s a probably a private event with no phones allowed/encouraged and the first people to hear renaissance live or see a Beyoncé concert in the last 4 years are the ultra wealthy. If the performance is not shown to fans it shouldn’t be happening, not after we got no promo or visuals this era Pay her 5+ million and she'll consider doing what you ask of her
Rafael Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Now would be a fantastic time for Yvette to put on her best Debbie Downer mask on and deny this on Twitter
Shelter Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, MrLovett said: As if that makes it ok. Do you think the law is going to change by not performing, no. Moaning about her decision isn’t either. It sucks she hasn’t performed this era though.
Lovett Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Shelter said: Do you think the law is going to change by not performing, no. Moaning about her decision isn’t either. It sucks she hasn’t performed this era though. So your thought process is to just ignore the laws then? As opposed to creating enough backlash that Beyoncé might actually try and use her privilege to make an impactful change? Great plan.
HeavyMetalAura Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Shelter said: I’m not. I’m laughing at what you said Sorry sis I have PTSD from being a hybrid stan, the liddos come for me when I mention Bey and the Hive comes for me when I mention Gaga, these f words won’t stay off my neck
Calypso Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 - Beyoncé has always done private events... Y'all need to brush up on history here cuz this is far from her most controversial "private" event - who said the show is for Renaissance?? - this is too damn funny 🤣 - I hope she stage tests some fun concepts for the tour - Beyoncé has ambitions that go beyond a musician. She wants to be a business woman too and we've long praised her for that... This is part of it. - my disappointments for this era and the silence and lack (TEASED) visuals is still the same. This has little impact on it Collect your coins BEYONC-EE!!!
kimberly Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 This is where the Texas government stands... 7 hours ago, Jay07 said: ....what? The Respect for Marriage act protects the rights of same sex and interracial couples on a federal level, all such unions will now be recognized in every US state and territory in response to the psycho wannabe theocrats of the Supreme Court. Meanwhile in Dubai homosexuality is illegal and theocracy is literally the law of the land. How the hell are you making the two similar? You clearly haven't followed the political mess. The religious organization exception to discriminate was included to make sure some Republicans would vote for it. UAE is a religious state. But there's been a lot of progress, to the point where many LGBTQ+ people go there to live or vacation with no issues — why should Americans be looking down on progress when this country can't stop regressing? It wasn't long ago that Ronald Reagan's administration ignored HIV/AIDS epidemic and treated deaths of gay men en masse as a joke. Shootings keep taking gay/trans lives and we do nothing about it. Beyoncé indulging in some oil money to perform at a developing nation isn't really that concerning to me. Artists perform in places that are hostile to LGBTQ+ people all the time, including places in the US, but also places like Poland, Russia, China, Nigeria, Turkey... Singapore only legalized being gay in 2022. Beyoncé has performed there before and even filmed that famous hospital recording of "Halo" there... I don't know, outrage against Dubai feels tinged with islamophobia and xenophobia to me. But what do I know.
kimberly Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Anyway, merry Christmas hive! I'm streaming 8 Days of Christmas to celebrate.
Calypso Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 We just had the worlds biggest event with everyone from celebs to presidents and prime ministers in Qatar... No one is really going to care. The real question is... How much of the 20 Mill do you think she's taking in equity?? 👀
jane Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 3 hours ago, MrLovett said: Beyoncé has made a disgusting choice and the bootlickers in here are gaslighting those who are unhappy she's making a decision to perform in a homophobic country that has laws in place to either criminalise or kill gay people. But hey, at least the bootlicking Hive can cheer that she's got more money in her bank. Honestly, and we say some of the other fan bases are trash? The behaviour in this thread is disgusting. There was a World Cup in Quatar not a long time ago and Presidents showed up there and Quatar is MUCH worse than Dubai in human rights. The entire world looked the other way but of course when it's Beyoncé it's drama. Beyoncé never pretended to represent gay rights, she only stands on people having freedom to do whatever they want and she had a uncle who was gay whom she adored. Any other narrative is pushed on her by people.
Shelter Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MrLovett said: So your thought process is to just ignore the laws then? As opposed to creating enough backlash that Beyoncé might actually try and use her privilege to make an impactful change? Great plan. You really think Beyonce is going to create backlash by declining a private event? No one outside that event cares if she performs, if she declines, they will ask someone else. She also has fans there, should they be punished because of the laws there? 1 hour ago, HeavyMetalAura said: Sorry sis I have PTSD from being a hybrid stan, the liddos come for me when I mention Bey and the Hive comes for me when I mention Gaga, these f words won’t stay off my neck It’s fine. Your post was just funny to me, most stans can’t admit the flaws of their favs, so seeing you say that had be laughing.
Lovett Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, jane said: There was a World Cup in Quatar not a long time ago and Presidents showed up there and Quatar is MUCH worse than Dubai in human rights. The entire world looked the other way but of course when it's Beyoncé it's drama. Beyoncé never pretended to represent gay rights, she only stands on people having freedom to do whatever they want and she had a uncle who was gay whom she adored. Any other narrative is pushed on her by people. The entire world absolutely did NOT look the other way. What on earth are you talking about? There was huge backlash against Qatar, regarding their laws against queer people. What is with people just straight up lying with these ridiculous straw man arguments?! 5 minutes ago, Shelter said: You really think Beyonce is going to create backlash by declining a private event? No one outside that event cares if she performs, if she declines, they will ask someone else. She also has fans there, should they be punished because of the laws there? I think she can absolutely open up powerful and important global discussions. Is she not the same person we talk about being hugely influential and impactful? This narrative of "her LGBTQ+ fans in the country will be punished by her not attending" is so monumentally stupid, because she's not even performing for them! It's not like she's touring there, it's an exclusive event for the wealthy elite who could also hugely impact and change these laws. But you, and others, have no desire to hold her accountable for these choices she's making. You think it's funny to post "collect your coins BEYONCEEEE" as if we're not discussing human rights issues here.
Beyle Street Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Merry Xmas to all! Here is what Ren's streams were exactly a month ago today: Spotify Streams: BMS: 241M Cuff It: 220M Alien Superstar: 96M Energy- 60M Summer Renaissance- 49M ITG- 48M Cozy- 47M Church Girl- 45M Heated- 40M Virgo's Groove- 39M Plastic Off the Sofa- 37M Pure/Honey- 35M THIQUE- 34M MOVE- 31M AHAP- 27M AIUYM- 25M On Christmas Day: Cuff It: 281M (+61M) BMS: 257M (+16M) Alien: 106M (+10M) Energy: 65M (+5M) Summer Renaissance: 53M (+4M) ITG- 53M (+5M) Cozy- 51M (+4M) Church Girl- 49M (+4M) Heated- 43M (+3M) Virgo's Groove- 42M (+3M) Plastic off The Sofa- 40M (+3M) Pure/Honey- 38M (+3M) THIQUE- 37M (+3M) MOVE- 34M (+3M) AHAP- 30M (+3M) AIUYM- 27M (+2M) Edited December 25, 2022 by Beyle Street
family.guy123 Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Church girl being one of the top gainers woot
ShouldersSideways Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, jane said: There was a World Cup in Quatar not a long time ago and Presidents showed up there and Quatar is MUCH worse than Dubai in human rights. The entire world looked the other way but of course when it's Beyoncé it's drama. Beyoncé never pretended to represent gay rights, she only stands on people having freedom to do whatever they want and she had a uncle who was gay whom she adored. Any other narrative is pushed on her by people. "Of course when it's Beyonce it's drama" Maybe you're just paying more attention when its Bey, because the world cup caused MUCH more controversy than Bey is going to in Dubai.
Shelter Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, MrLovett said: The entire world absolutely did NOT look the other way. What on earth are you talking about? There was huge backlash against Qatar, regarding their laws against queer people. What is with people just straight up lying with these ridiculous straw man arguments?! I think she can absolutely open up powerful and important global discussions. Is she not the same person we talk about being hugely influential and impactful? This narrative of "her LGBTQ+ fans in the country will be punished by her not attending" is so monumentally stupid, because she's not even performing for them! It's not like she's touring there, it's an exclusive event for the wealthy elite who could also hugely impact and change these laws. But you, and others, have no desire to hold her accountable for these choices she's making. You think it's funny to post "collect your coins BEYONCEEEE" as if we're not discussing human rights issues here. If she was performing at some big WW event there, maybe. A private event, no. I don’t think it would be discussed by declining. My point is you don’t want her performing there or probably any country that have those views, which is unfair to fans who might not have the luxury to go to other countries to see her. If she announces a stadium show there on tour, what are you going to say
Lovett Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Shelter said: If she was performing at some big WW event there, maybe. A private event, no. I don’t think it would be discussed by declining. My point is you don’t want her performing there or probably any country that have those views, which is unfair to fans who might not have the luxury to go to other countries to see her. If she announces a stadium show there on tour, what are you going to say If she made a public statement regarding it, yes it absolutely would be discussed. There's news articles about her sneezing, sis. Come on now. If she announces a show there on tour, then I'm absolutely willing to have a larger discussion on the importance of her LGBTQ+ fans in the country being able to see her. But that's not what this situation is. So I think it's incredibly disingenuous to try and force that into the argument to soften the fact that she's made this terrible decision.
Shelter Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MrLovett said: If she made a public statement regarding it, yes it absolutely would be discussed. There's news articles about her sneezing, sis. Come on now. If she announces a show there on tour, then I'm absolutely willing to have a larger discussion on the importance of her LGBTQ+ fans in the country being able to see her. But that's not what this situation is. So I think it's incredibly disingenuous to try and force that into the argument to soften the fact that she's made this terrible decision. I think some of you expect too much from her. It’s not even me defending her, I’m one the worst dragging her this last year. Like I said, she could decline and someone else will replace her. I think J Lo was offered the gig.
Shelter Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Bey was mentioned in the new Glass Onion, Knives Out movie.
Beyondslay Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Bey really be holding out on us! I just heard one of those leaked songs in full.
Lovett Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Just now, Shelter said: I think some of you expect too much from her. It’s not even me defending her, I’m one the worst dragging her this last year. Like I said, she could decline and someone else will replace her. I think J Lo was offered the gig. I expect her to not take money over the morals that I hope she has. I don't think that's expecting too much at all. Just because someone else could theoretically take it if she refuses it, also isn't a defence. Each person could do what is right and refuse based on those grounds and then maybe a discussion will start to be had. But instead she's taken the money and I personally feel incredibly disappointed in her right now.
Planet Mars Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 The backlash is surprisingly less than I thought. At this point I'm not convinced they cab do anything for the era to really revive it anymore. The entire RENAISSANCE era is a perfect example of how you can drop a great album and brutally murder the hype in record time. And she's not winning AOTY either, so I hope this is all worth it.
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