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Less playlisting and less generic easy listen pop music. Thats pretty much it. Shes still bigger than everyone here except Taylor

Wow I just checked Taylor's kworb page and her streaming stats are insane OT: Best Cruel Summer / Worst Dark Horse (I love Katy but this song never clicked for me)

How is this a drag Would you prefer her to be a nepo baby that was instantly handed a career?

Huh this performance ate. The way she outdanced GaGa at her own choreography

But GaGa was at fault for lying about Madonna's team sending an email approving which was actually what started the whole question and answer. She didn't just say it for no reason

She's a huge plant (her playlisting is one of the most fraudulent I've ever seen). No one is actually stanning her here. OT: Because the UK has no taste sadly.

The ATRL commission shop being for someone called the Alleged Music Industry

Not vinyls but I spent like $1.2k mass buying a Kpop CD to try to win a fancall im my Kpop stan days That could have gone to a gacha game instead

Katy

Ariana 13 years in: #1 debut (her 10th overall) and a #4 second single despite not serving quality. GaGa 12 years in: Chromatica (3 flop singles and a #1 arguably bc of Ariana herself). I guess G has pure album sales over her but I can't think of anything else. EDIT: The liddo downvotes don't make it untrue

Oh Godbin Sungchan next

Which is another favorable thing because it means she will easily continue to score hits and might end up with a far bigger legacy. Meanwhile it's hard to say if the previous gen will even score any more hits.

I was thinking how Ariana is 8 albums in and her lead singles are still basically guaranteed to be #1 smashes WW. Her Wiki singles discography page is insane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariana_Grande_discography#2020s, with so many consistent hits and it's hard to imagine it will stop any time soon. I can see her comeback after Petal also being huge Meanwhile the cohort of pop girls that debuted in 2008-2009 like Katy, Kesha, Gaga (etc) stopped having consistent hit making ability 3-5 years in. Has Ariana surpassed them? (Taylor excluded for obvious reasons, not sure about Rihanna though)

Monthly users: Google: 5b Tiktok: 1.9-2.2b ChatGPT: 1b We're not falling for this propaganda that young people don't use Google. Yes, its market share IS decreasing, but to say it is not used or not reflective of trends is a lie. It still has the majority share and by far. Last year Tiktok overtook Google for local searches in the USA (aka people searching for restaurants and sightseeing stuff) among Gen Z but anyone who read the actual article would see there was only a 1% difference between the two and most people polled said they used both And finally, GT does not just count Google searches, it also counts YouTube, YT Music and more importantly it includes the number of posts/articles that are added to the search index which can include news articles and social media posts on other platforms

Exactly, plus it's a charity song so (sadly) less incentive from Olivia's label to playlist and promote it.

Google Trends counts searches on YT (both video and YT music) which is at least two forms of music consumption Also big artists just tend to make buzz when they release an album, generating news articles, social media posts, etc. These all contribute to Trends.

I have a feeling Olivia is not as big as her streaming numbers suggest. There's something fishy going on with streaming algorithms and the push that young, new artists receive. I checked Olivia on Google Trends the other day and she is basically non-existent in terms of WW searches (even under Katy in 2026). Her peak during her album release was also lower than C2

Album artists: Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eilish, Noah Kahan Singles artists (including collabs): Lady Gaga, Tyla, Bebe

A lot of them are moulding Britney stans that are bitter and in denial that Tate does everything better

The Tate discrediting in this thread is so forced

Can't argue with these receipts. Very eye opening.

What is this even supposed to mean? Seems like you just made a filler statement because you know she has never done a private concert OT: Boatmates will be boatmates

Great news Still feels very silly that 406k physical sales gets added 1:1 with a digital sale and 100 streams (lol) considering: Physical single: $5 Digital sale: $1 100 paid streams: $0.30

She really is one of the greediest and most disingenuous celebs out there but we've known this since 2013.

Well I only listen to like three people from this list so you can have most of them (voted Brit though as she has the least lifetime plays here on my lastfm)