Pendulum Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 RUSSIA AND ISRAEL ARE TWO NATIONS THAT ARE COMMITTING GENOCIDE AS WE SPEAK. NO IFS, NO BUTS. ENOUGH. 2 1 1
Pendulum Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Belarus 2021 was kind of a camp bop if you think about it 1 1 1
ZIVERT Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 31 minutes ago, Pendulum said: How is this relevan to their DSQ? Was it the broadcaster who did that? I'm sure Alyona Lanskaya was the one who threatened. The EBU supports independent media, and had to respond when the Belarusian government attacked press freedom via their arbitrary arrest of an independent journalist. This led to the expulsion of Belarus from the EBU, preventing them from participating in future editions of Eurovision. All of that is in addition to BTRC being the media propaganda arm of Lukashenko's government, which attacked and condemned the mass protests that took place against the government in 2021. The same government broadcaster concurrently submitted two pro-government songs that specifically belittled and demonized the protestors, culminating in their refusal to submit a third song/rewrite when given the option to. As they chose not to submit a new song by the EBU deadline, and after already committing to participating previously, their "disqualification" was self-inflicted.
Pendulum Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 1 minute ago, ZIVERT said: The EBU supports independent media, and had to respond when the Belarusian government attacked press freedom via their arbitrary arrest of an independent journalist. This led to the expulsion of Belarus from the EBU, preventing them from participating in future editions of Eurovision. All of that is in addition to BTRC being the media propaganda arm of Lukashenko's government, which attacked and condemned the mass protests that took place against the government in 2021. The same government broadcaster concurrently submitted two pro-government songs that specifically belittled and demonized the protestors, culminating in their refusal to submit a third song/rewrite when given the option to. As they chose not to submit a new song by the EBU deadline, and after already committing to participating previously, their "disqualification" was self-inflicted. Okaaaay but isn't KAN pushing propaganda and cosigning rockets that are shot at Gaza??
ZIVERT Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Mind you, Belarus' broadcaster announced immediately after this interview aired that Val were disqualified from representing Belarus in 2021 because they "don't have a conscience.”
ZIVERT Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Pendulum said: Okaaaay but isn't KAN pushing propaganda and cosigning rockets that are shot at Gaza?? KAN is the Israeli public broadcaster, and reports on news relevant to Israel, including the war. I agree that reporting on signing rockets is distasteful, but it's not an exclusively Israeli thing… for example, there were fundraisers in Ukraine allowing people to pay for messages to be written on missiles used to attack Russian soldiers. Azerbaijan and Armenia constantly push "propaganda" meant to villainize the other side. There are countries at war, countries that have political disputes, and their media reflects that. Holding Israel to one standard that's different from everyone else is a slippery slope. Ultimately, KAN is independent of the government, and was actually targeted by Netanyahu for its reporting. The difference with Belarus is that their government didn't accurately reflect the situation on the ground, and aggressively worked for the government rather than the people. The EBU has said from the beginning that none of their rules have been violated by KAN, but the fanbase has collectively put its head in the sand and decided that there is some deeper conspiracy that doesn't actually exist. That being said, I think people are more than welcome to protest Israel's participation in the contest. But I agree with the EBU message that bullying artists (among other insidious posts I've seen online, such as hoping for a terrorist attack in Malmö) crosses the line into harassment territory, and should stop 1
Hurem Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 (edited) Good evening, Europe ATRL! Eurovision 2024 is getting closer, which means it's time to find out ATRL's favorite. Unlike previous years, I feel this year is pretty open, making the results have never been more unpredictable. The rules remain identical to previous editions. First, you will choose your 10 favorite songs from each semi-final. In typical ESC fashion, your #1 song gets 12 points, #2 gets 10 points, #3 gets 8 points and so on until weyreach your #10 that gets only 1 point. PM me your votes and do not reveal them in this thread. 1. Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - "Liar" 2. Serbia: Teya Dora - "Ramonda" 3. Lithuania: Silvester Belt - "Luktelk" 4. Ireland: Bambie Thug - "Doomsday Blue" 5. Ukraine: Alyona Alyona and Jerry Heil - "Teresa & Maria" 6: Poland - Luna - "The Tower" 7. Croatia: Baby Lasagna - "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" 8. Iceland: Hera Björk - "Scared of Heights" 9. Slovenia: Raiven - "Veronika" 10. Finland: Windows95man - "No Rules!" 11. Moldova: Natalia Barbu - "In the Middle" 12. Azerbaijan: Fahree feat. Ilkin Dovlatov - "Özünlə apar" 13. Australia: Electric Fields - "One Milkali (One Blood)" 14. Portugal: Iolanda - "Grito" 15. Luxembourg: Tali - "Fighter" 1. Malta: Sarah Bonnici - "Loop" 2. Albania: Besa - "Titan" 3. Greece: Marina Satti - "Zari" 4. Switzerland: Nemo - "The Code" 5. Czechia: Aiko - "Pedestal" 6. Austria: Kaleen - "We Will Rave" 7. Denmark: Saba - "Sand" 8. Armenia: Ladaniva - "Jako" 9. Latvia: Dons - "Hollow" 10. San Marino: Megara - "11:11" 11. Georgia: Nutsa Buzaladze - "Firefighter" 12. Belgium: Mustii - "Before the Party's Over" 13. Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - "(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi" 14. Norway: Gåte - "Ulveham" 15. Netherlands: Joost Klein - "Europapa" You can also listen to all songs on the official Spotify playlist. ATRL, start voting now! Spoiler @*Tim @abeille @abelfenty @abrantino @acousticer @alstrom @Anthinos @anti-***** @Apostolis @Aquamarine @beautiful player @bjorn @bkglk @Blackthorn @Bloodflowers. @blown away @BOOM! @byzantium @ChapelHooker @chessguy99 @Cholien @Dante @Delirious @Delusional @DLW @DUA LIPA @elvenOCEAN @EnterTheAttic @fab @FallenFroot @feelingsonfire @Fevesy @fiercE @Funhouse @gimmelaugh @Glacia @greeneyedsoul @igninton @illia @Jack! @James_Dean @JennyWayne @Johnny Jacobs @KaledKalil @Kamil24 @karma police @Katamari @Kayhan @KevinDG @khalyan @KillingYourCareer @kimberly @Kitty Kat @Komet @Konril @Kummercell @Kylie Jenner @Legend E @Life Savers @Lil Mxnster @Listentoyourheart @little legend @Mabsa @Mellark @mellenthin @Miichael @Miles. @Million_Lights @Moonturn @nadiamendell @nasa @Navyofbadgals @NeonTiger @noahfence @Noodles @OnlyManInTheWorld @ONOPKA @Outlaws @P!nk Forever @PaloSanto @Pendulum @Phonography @POPTART @Queen Conchita @shark_heather @Sheegs @Solaria @TaylenaStan @tbhmatt @TheCal @TheseThingsHappen @thismoment @Toudi @twittgoo @VeniceBeach @WalkAway @ZIVERT If you want to be removed from the tag list, let me know! If you're not tagged, you can still participate! Edited April 14, 2024 by Hurem 6
Funhouse Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 The EBU basically admitting that Israel's participation has brought the contest into disrepute but not doing anything about it is... an interesting strategy that will certainly add fuel to the fire
Lil Mxnster Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 I have never replied or quoted @/Eurovision tweets but I think it is about time to drag and spam them Palestinian flags because they cannot be that f***ing morons
EnterTheAttic Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 I love this version, although I feel like she held back! She can do more with her voice!
ZIVERT Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Anyone who wastes a point on Finland needs to be thread banned 2
Funhouse Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 I didn't realise how much of a flop SF2 was outside of a select few countries and I WILL be sabotaging certain untalented men
Kylie Jenner Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Help I haven't frequented this thread in years and the first thing I see is a new iconic gif
KillingYourCareer Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Israel has the best song whether you acknowledge it or not 1 4 4
Pendulum Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: Israel has the best song whether you acknowledge it or not Are you enjoying Lichtenstein king?
KillingYourCareer Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Pendulum said: Are you enjoying Lichtenstein king? Put a heart reaction thanks
Fevesy Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Dragged Wiwibloggs earlier but here I am seated for their interview with the queen and winner of ATRL-o-vision
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