Eternium Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Ryan said: I was kind of thinking about something that could be one of the topics of discussion for the day (something I want to do regularly): For those of you who were fans of OT9 SNSD, how did you deal with Jessica’s departure? If she was your bias, did it change how you looked at the group afterward? It’s been almost 10 years since she left SNSD. With most of the girls at other labels now despite coming together for group comebacks, what would you make of Jessica reuniting with the girls and that leading to her rejoining the group? Think it could happen or has too much damage been done? I was devastated, even though it was clear that Girls’ Generation were kind of aging out of promotions. I know there was turmoil in the group, but I think the stans who blame any of the girls are incredibly misguided. SM has a history of trying to turn members against each other when the company has an issue against a particular member (they did it to TVXQ and some other groups). I don’t think the girls recognize quite how evil SM is. When they realized they couldn’t control Jaejoong, they then tried to create a rotation group so that way every member would be replaceable and fans would grow attached to the group (which would just be more of a brand) than to the individual idols. I fully believe they sank Jessica because they knew what her fashion label would do and how big SNSD would get and so they created turmoil about unfair payouts and then refused to give other members equal promotions and opportunities to upset their parents. I totally get why Sooyoung’s mom was a ***** and I think SM played the girls’ parents like pawns so they could use them as scapegoats. It’s part of why I get so mad at @Zack and @Century when they fight. You really think the evil tyrant SM would actually dissolve the top girl group because there was turmoil among some members? Y’all can not be that naive.
youresotoxic Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said: hii i'm new here (i've been lurking for way too long now) some random thoughts: - there are no 4th gen it-boys, the girls really dominate - yes red velvet yes quality - TXT really released their best music in the first year. - noise groups= stray kids and nct - newjeans are 4th gen leaders - genie best kpop song of all time - favorite is nct 127 best song - blackpink should release more bop like playing with fire, as if its your last.. (basically more melodies and actual choruses). - thanks to that user that posts kpop news everytime - exo is the best boy group (visually too) another Reveluv, welcome quality will be released every time, even with the bsides
illia Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said: how do i change my profile picture tho Go to your profile and click on that button in your profile picture
youresotoxic Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said: how do i change my profile picture tho you can change it when you click on your profile. on that page, where your profile pic should be, there is a little icon in the bottom left (which looks like a sun and a mountain). you can click on that and be able to change your profile pic
Eternium Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, Dialamba said: TXT and IVE aiming for the US just to bomb on Spotify at least TXT charted But IVE were doing just fine without this messy rollout Let’s not drag IVE into this. TXT is from HYBE and they use Discovery Mode and have connections to Scooter Braun. Them flopping on Spotify just shows us that nobody wants it. IVE doesn’t have the same tactics and their U.S. label doesn’t seem to care about them at all. Is IVE MINE even in Target stores or being distributed on Amazon?
Sugden Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 ive not charting a single single on spotify 200 this era it was bad for them 2 1
Sailor Moon Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, youresotoxic said: you can change it when you click on your profile. on that page, where your profile pic should be, there is a little icon in the bottom left (which looks like a sun and a mountain). you can click on that and be able to change your profile pic 10 minutes ago, Flomik said: Go to your profile and click on that button in your profile picture thank youuuu i think i'll stick with karina right now (hopefully no one has this one)
Sheep Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Eternium said: I totally get why Sooyoung’s mom was a ***** This is completely out of pocket and totally uncalled for and also exactly why Jessica's miserable published SNSD lies are so problematic to me. How dare you call anybody's mom a ***** completely unfounded like this. 1
Dialamba Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Eternium said: Let’s not drag IVE into this. TXT is from HYBE and they use Discovery Mode and have connections to Scooter Braun. Them flopping on Spotify just shows us that nobody wants it. IVE doesn’t have the same tactics and their U.S. label doesn’t seem to care about them at all. Is IVE MINE even in Target stores or being distributed on Amazon? No target version just an US store which they announced a week ago. I don’t even think they will chart on BB They should just stick to Korea no more Friday releases. There’s no need to rush their global expansion especially with their least friendly songs.
Mitsuki Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) This IVE era is so weird for me. I'd understand Starship acting this way If IVE wasn't thriving and they needed them to expand their public globally desesperately hoping something sticks somewhere. But they literally already have one of the biggest K-pop groups at the moment. It doesn't make sense at all to change abruptally the path that was working so great for them. Edited October 14, 2023 by Mitsuki
Sailor Moon Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 IVE really rushed their global expansion, like yeah they are very popular in south korea (and internationally among kpop fans), but they should've release on friday.. I got reminded of NMIXX when they used to promote themselves for the latin market like .. get a hit in korea first. the only 4th gen group that would benefit from friday releases is newjeans, and stray kids/txt/enhypen (for billboard 200).
Pluto6 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mitsuki said: The way I stan all of them, I’m truly a JYP version of SM sheep, wow 1
hallucinate Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 the fact that IVE did better globally when they were focusing mainly in korea is so funny to me we’ve been yelling that this was a bad idea ever since the comeback announcement hoping this was the wake up call that starship needs so they can go back to having proper rollouts and focus on korea first 1
Sailor Moon Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 the fact that 2 of the biggest hits this decade (hype boy and next level) peaked at #2 is a crime!! served longevity, acclaim, quality ..
hallucinate Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) the way an US exclusive version was added to the starship store a week before the release and on top of that they didn’t even officially announce it on social media absolutely embarrassing edit: just checked target and they are not even selling it on there Edited October 14, 2023 by hallucinate
Mitsuki Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Deserves 1B streams alone When this song dropped I didn't like it at all. But then I noticed the chorus was stuck on my head, especially the "beep-beep, jingling, jingling, keep-keep, mingling, mingling" part and I listened to it a few times more. Now I like it. 1
youresotoxic Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Deserves 1B streams alone think you mean't their best release... 2
oceans Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 1 minute ago, youresotoxic said: think you mean't their best release... exactly!!1 1
ItsJustMe. Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 RINGO and ZOOM ZOOM both have appealing parts, but as a whole they're just too noisy for me
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